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Thread Number: 45387
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
End of an Era for Cana-Vac |
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| Post# 470011 , Reply# 3 3/6/2024 at 22:45 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
Cana-Vac was like in my opinion the middle class of central vacs. Weren't bad but weren't the best. I've always liked CycloVac, one of my top three recommended picks. So I think this is a great move by TI. I was hoping both DrainVac and Nuera Air would change the designs of NuTone and Beam when those two got bought as well but as of today they haven't. Maybe someday they might but who knows.
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| Post# 470095 , Reply# 5 3/13/2024 at 13:10 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Actually what you could do is you can get yourself a Vacu-Maid SR800 (or any unit with a 8.4" motor) and also buy a separate dirt canister whether it's inverted or cyclonic. You won't ever have to worry about getting dirt inside the motor because the bag will always filter out anything that'd get past through the dirt canister. I've seen some Vacu-Maid dealers that've done this before even with the dual motor units. Regarding Allegro, I think they're decent units for what they are because my aunt has the Champion model for a few years now. Though I wasn't too impressed with their customer service when we had to ship the motor back to Allegro for repair recently. The motor failed because of the filter design which can happen to any inverted unit without a disposable bag. I could possibly see them purchasing Easy-Flo in the future cause I think they'd be next. It's a shame that nobody stepped in and bought A.C.V. because I really did liked their units, they were basically the Canadian Vacu-Maid but I think even better.
I think I'd take a Beam over any NuTone Pure Power unit. At least their Serenity and Classic models. I could care less about their Alliance units because they use thru-flow motors which are better than NuTone's but I'd rather have a unit that uses a bypass motor.
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| Post# 470121 , Reply# 7 3/14/2024 at 12:41 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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I believe it is possible to find a US dealer here who'd be willing to ship you a MD across Canada. That's what I'd like to do is to find a dealer with a used blue Modern Day unit (preferably a SV model just like what our friend Owen has) for my home because I'm just personally not a fan of the white color unless it's either a Silent Master or a Air Force.
Another one that I wished was still around from Canada are the original Hayden Super Packs. I really did thought they were neat systems for what they are, not the best but I would've certainly enjoyed having one around as my primary vacuum. I know the Super Vacs are now made by CycloVac or at least when Hayden last updated their website. No doubt they're excellent units but they're just not the same anymore. (Curtesy of Centralvacs1928) | ||
| Post# 470152 , Reply# 9 3/15/2024 at 09:57 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Yeah, it could be pricey or maybe you might find one for a reasonable shipping deal. Either way, I'd still think it'd be worth looking around. Or eventually MD would start having dealers in Canada which I think could possibly happen someday. My next door neighbor has a Silent Partner (not silent) by Vacu-Maid S-3200. Very powerful system indeed (the most powerful central vac in my neighborhood so far) and one of the coolest looking central vacs I've ever seen. But I think that house could've gone for something better. Not because it's cyclonic but I could care less by how the motors are set up in a series way. I would've went for either a Silent Master S5 or a Vacuflo 960 (preferably the S5) by how parallel the motors are and simple it is not requiring a secondary unit, giving the system more airflow. The only two units I'm aware of with a series set up that appears to have more airflow than suction are the CycloVac 7525 and the Aqua-Air 258.
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| Post# 470235 , Reply# 11 3/22/2024 at 12:37 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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You're correct that one motor is upside down over the other, I actually had one of the motors replaced on that several years ago. To clarify from my post, when I said how parallel the motors are, I was referring to the motors sitting all in one straight housing. Cause compare with that to the other two, that piping is so much smaller of being able to breathe.
I had a chance to take a closer look at the 258 and by the way I just noticed they've got a new look on their website, apparently I didn't realize there are two exhaust ports out of the motor unit. I was thinking there's one motor on the main unit and one on the secondary unit since the 8.4" motors are quite big to fit onto one unit, even the new look still shows one exhaust port on their website. Now that makes more sense because I did wondered how they managed to get away with having alot of airflow in a series set up but it's been parallel all this time. I also didn't realize there are two set ups for the 7525 but based on your description that totally makes sense, they too have a new look on their website and confirms that it can be used as either parallel or series. Like you, I also prefer having a simpler system like the Simplicity SPU-C20 unit for example that was made by CycloVac. I do wish that CycloVac was still making those single dual motor parallel units. Our friend Reggie had the Riccar version that he's since changed out for a S5. www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bi... | ||
| Post# 470318 , Reply# 13 3/26/2024 at 15:03 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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The S5's are beasts! I'd love to own one even though I'm not a fan of the color white. But, I do think white is a better looking color on the Silent Master and the old now discontinued Air Force units. If only they brought back the old golden rings, Silent Master logo, and the centralvacuum.com sticker, that would've been perfect for me! We had a Silent Master unit from one of our old cabins before, it wasn't an S5 but it may have been either a S4 or S44 cause it sounded like it had a single motor. Anyways, I did really liked the looks of that unit. This is what ours was. The newer Silent Master units today just looks too modern for my taste. In fact, just about every new central vac unit on the market today looks too modern for me. At least I outta give props to MD for now using the Tru-Seal bags, I probably would've upgraded our bag system if we still owned that cabin today. But everything else, I liked it exactly the way it was. No doubt it's one of my all time favorite systems but definitely for bagged units, this is easily the favorite one (my all time favorite central vacuum would be my grandparent's green Vacumaid P-125 at their house which is cyclonic). If only we would've known, we should've added extra inlets in the third floor up because it didn't had any in the cabin. It was originally designed to be just an attic but we improvised and made it another walk-in area which I'm glad we did. Luckily we did founded a way to make the hose still reach up there but we still could've bought another vacuum honestly (preferably a Lindhaus Valzer or a Healthcare Pro). For one, just right when we had our cabin built, we couldn't use the central vacuum yet as it wasn't fully set up. We had to borrow one of our contractor's vacuums because of it. Secondly, installing more inlets would've lost some airflow in the system unless the unit got upgraded which is rather more pricey. Thirdly, having another vacuum would've cut the cleaning in half if two people were vacuuming that big place at the same time. And last but not least, I know there were also other areas that the central vac couldn't get to. Other than all of that, I still loved it like it was the perfect vacuum for the place. Another system I looked into that I thought would've also been fantastic for the place but probably didn't existed yet would be a Simplicity or a Riccar bagged unit, I think those are my second favorite bagged systems but definitely for certain the favorite bottom emptying bagged units as the Silent Master is my favorite top emptying unit. Yeah it's surprising that Reggie's board failed even though it's in a separate housing. But at least though almost 15 years is not too bad. Definitely outlasted some other units like my neighbor's white NuTone CV-450 for example. That's another bagged unit that I really did liked but I've heard the boards failed quite a bit. I don't blame him though for tiring of dealing with the mess of emptying a bagless unit. I probably wouldn't have minded a bagless Simplicity, Riccar, or even a CycloVac at the cabin but I might've for our house. Speaking of which, it looks like CycloVac no longer offers the choice of having whatever kind of three filtration systems you'd want. Your only option would be hybrid.
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