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Thread Number: 24717
Car Boot Sale Find (Sebo X1.1) |
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| Post# 277388 , Reply# 1 4/21/2014 at 12:49 (3,658 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 277390 , Reply# 2 4/21/2014 at 12:52 (3,658 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277392 , Reply# 3 4/21/2014 at 12:56 (3,658 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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There is no foot pedal to recline the machine with. See picture. It dosen't look old at all no. I have also bought spares for the machine, every single one I needed. Brilliant. 
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| Post# 277394 , Reply# 4 4/21/2014 at 13:01 (3,658 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Just wondering if it is worth getting the X1.1 over any of the X4's as I already have the extension hose and a dusting brush. I could just purchase a turbo tool which I'm thinking of getting anyway to use with my Felix and upgrade the pre motor filter to a charcoal one. Although I don't have a charcaol filter in my Felix and I don't really get a smell of pet odour!
I'm right in thinking you can't tell any difference in performance even though there is a slight difference in motor wattage!? | ||
| Post# 277395 , Reply# 5 4/21/2014 at 13:06 (3,658 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Oh no there isn't, gosh clearly gone! Thanks for showing picture of that. No it doesn't, I thought that. That fab back to full working order with all these parts needed.
I usually tell if a X Series is relatively new due to the orange foot pedal (probably not a good way I know!), older ones they where grey if I'm right in thinking! Not sure when they introduced the orange foot pedal? | ||
| Post# 277399 , Reply# 7 4/21/2014 at 14:11 (3,658 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Thats good to know for definite the X1.1 has no suction difference and its slightly quieter too compared to the X4. I do like the white colour, they do a X1.1 red colour for independent retailers. I see you can pickup the X1.1 for £200 new not bad. The white would go nicely with my Felix Classic! Thats true hide the scraps and scratches.
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| Post# 277400 , Reply# 8 4/21/2014 at 14:13 (3,658 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 () | ||
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I would deffo go for the X1.1 & not the X4. | ||
| Post# 277406 , Reply# 10 4/21/2014 at 14:39 (3,658 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277415 , Reply# 12 4/21/2014 at 15:08 (3,657 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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OMG Where is your Carboot? :D And how much was the DC07 and DC24? | ||
| Post# 277416 , Reply# 13 4/21/2014 at 15:09 (3,657 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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| Post# 277418 , Reply# 14 4/21/2014 at 15:11 (3,657 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 () | ||
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Didn't ask about the DC07, the DC24 was £50. | ||
| Post# 277423 , Reply# 15 4/21/2014 at 15:44 (3,657 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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Nice X1.1, I'm sure you will fix it up just fine!
BTW - what was the Turbopower 1000 like, and was the red 80's Turbopower any good as well? | ||
| Post# 277432 , Reply# 16 4/21/2014 at 16:12 (3,657 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 () | ||
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The TP1000 had the permabag & autosense, but it was quite dirty. All the 80's Turbopowers were red & quite good condition, clean. But they didn't sell. | ||
| Post# 277434 , Reply# 17 4/21/2014 at 16:14 (3,657 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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Great find! | ||
| Post# 277443 , Reply# 19 4/21/2014 at 17:41 (3,657 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277445 , Reply# 20 4/21/2014 at 18:03 (3,657 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 () | ||
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Apparently it's better to buy a vacuum with the accessories you want to use rather than get them after you have bought the vacuum. | ||
| Post# 277447 , Reply# 21 4/21/2014 at 18:36 (3,657 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Both the X and the Felix are great with the stair turbo brush, but the Felix hose seems to be harder to use when connected to the main PN. Much prefer using the X hose, even if it is the same length. It seems to be more flexible when the Turbo brush head is added at the end of its hose.
Might just be me. As suggested already by HiLO I would buy the X1.1 - there simply isn't much difference to either machine - both are good although evdiently the X1.1 is harder to buy on the high street unless you go to specialist shops like Euronics stores - and even then some stores don't have the X1.1 in stock because they prefer you to buy their exclusive X4 Pro. | ||
| Post# 277453 , Reply# 22 4/21/2014 at 19:12 (3,657 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277454 , Reply# 23 4/21/2014 at 19:25 (3,657 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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It's certainly made me think about getting the X1.1 as HI-LOswitch98 suggested and yourself sebo_fan too. I've seen a red X4 at an independent store for £239.99 was looking at that too.
I found the hose on my Felix Classic not to be as stretchable as the extension hose and the hoses I've seen on current Felix models. I contacted SEBO UK and asked if they did a cream version of the inboard hose the same as current Felix Models in terms of it being more stretchable and probably slightly longer. I was told the hoses are stiff to start off with which is not the issue I have and didn't want to replace it at £30 incase it's the same! That's why I would like the hose and wand setup on the X for instant use to use along skirting boards etc... without having to bend down! That aside I love the Felix. | ||
| Post# 277533 , Reply# 24 4/22/2014 at 08:24 (3,657 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
Nice find, Beckham! Hope you like it. As you probably already know, Sebo are on of my favourites.
Jon, I've found there's really no difference at all in terms of performance between the x1.1 and the x4. I think you might notice the 150w difference if you use the Turbo brush on the extension hose, but other than that, the difference is so minimal it's not noticeable. We have 2 x1.1's. The standard model and the red Euronics exclusive. | ||
| Post# 277546 , Reply# 25 4/22/2014 at 08:53 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Thanks Chris! Yes I would have guessed Sebo s your favourite haha :D My parts should be here tomorrow & then it will be put to good use. It is sooo quiet too. | ||
| Post# 277550 , Reply# 26 4/22/2014 at 09:07 (3,657 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Yes I would have guessed Sebo s your favourite | ||
| Post# 277551 , Reply# 27 4/22/2014 at 09:13 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Um your profile picture :P | ||
| Post# 277552 , Reply# 28 4/22/2014 at 09:13 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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And the fact you persuaded your boyfriend to get a Sebo too haha | ||
| Post# 277553 , Reply# 29 4/22/2014 at 09:15 (3,657 days old) by electroluxxxx (……) | ||
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what is the difference between the x1.1 and the x4? | ||
| Post# 277555 , Reply# 30 4/22/2014 at 09:20 (3,657 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277556 , Reply# 31 4/22/2014 at 09:21 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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There is hardly any difference except the higher motor power, different colour, more expensive price & I think the X4 has extra accessories too. | ||
| Post# 277558 , Reply# 32 4/22/2014 at 09:22 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Doubt it Chris, but on that thread could hardly believe the amount of dust the Sebo got out of those carpets when you took a picture of the open dust bag! How long is the cord on an X1.1 BTW? | ||
| Post# 277559 , Reply# 33 4/22/2014 at 09:28 (3,657 days old) by electroluxxxx (……) | ||
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ok thanks! | ||
| Post# 277560 , Reply# 34 4/22/2014 at 09:29 (3,657 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England) | ||
Beckham... | ||
| Post# 277561 , Reply# 35 4/22/2014 at 09:31 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Thanks! I hardly know anything about Sebos either! :) | ||
| Post# 277562 , Reply# 36 4/22/2014 at 09:31 (3,657 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277563 , Reply# 37 4/22/2014 at 09:33 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Ooh 10 metres! I'm spoilt haha. Do you have any Mieles Chris? | ||
| Post# 277564 , Reply# 38 4/22/2014 at 09:43 (3,657 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277565 , Reply# 39 4/22/2014 at 09:43 (3,657 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England) | ||
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10M | ||
| Post# 277566 , Reply# 40 4/22/2014 at 09:44 (3,657 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277567 , Reply# 41 4/22/2014 at 09:48 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Did you like the S5210? | ||
| Post# 277568 , Reply# 42 4/22/2014 at 09:49 (3,657 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England) | ||
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Miele's | ||
| Post# 277569 , Reply# 43 4/22/2014 at 09:52 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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I've considered the S2, but I do prefer the S5 instead. There's one on ao.com for £149.! 
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| Post# 277570 , Reply# 44 4/22/2014 at 10:02 (3,657 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England) | ||
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AO.com | ||
| Post# 277578 , Reply# 45 4/22/2014 at 11:41 (3,657 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 277579 , Reply# 46 4/22/2014 at 11:44 (3,657 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Get yourself a manual if you can - upload for free from SEBO UK:
www.sebo.co.uk/support/downloads/... CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 277580 , Reply# 47 4/22/2014 at 12:00 (3,657 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Thanks Chris for that info on the X1.1 that's great to know. You've all got me thinking about getting an X1.1 over the X4. Was going to ask about using the turbo brush on the X1.1 especially with the extension hose or just the main hose. Longs it works ok I've always got my Felix I can use the turbo brush with.
I take it from what I remember your boyfriends new SEBO was a X1.1 wasn't it Chris? I was quite surprise too how much dust it picked up when you cut open the bag! Mine you SEBO's are great at cleaning! | ||
| Post# 277583 , Reply# 49 4/22/2014 at 12:25 (3,657 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Hi Jon,
You're absolutely right, my other half got an x1.1. We only paid £175 for it. We're moving in together at the end of May, so we'll have 2. Beckham, I'd go for the D2 over the Miele. Suction is pretty much the same, but the D2 is far more solid and the bags are enormous and will last you a lot longer. | ||
| Post# 277584 , Reply# 50 4/22/2014 at 12:32 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Thanks for the recommendation, love the simple look of the D2 anyway. Plus the 12m cord! 2 Sebos in 1 house?! God that house won't know what's hit it! :D | ||
| Post# 277585 , Reply# 51 4/22/2014 at 12:36 (3,657 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277587 , Reply# 52 4/22/2014 at 13:04 (3,657 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Thanks hi-loswitch98 for the link appreciate it.
You sound as bad as me trying to make a decision on which one! I would go for the SEBO D2 Storm especially if they are the same price. Depends on what you are looking for? Could the SEBO be to big in size compared to the S5, although the SEBO's running costs I would think would be cheaper! I'd go with the SEBO D2 Storm myself if it was me! I just love SEBO's lol! | ||
| Post# 277589 , Reply# 53 4/22/2014 at 13:09 (3,657 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I considered the D2 Storm before I went for the Total version - but then I figured I'd be spending £25 excess for the same extra tools as you get a main size turbo brush PLUS the stair cleaning turbo brush as well standard suction only floor head.
The D2 Total is a general all rounder - the Storm is the basic model, but still as effective if you can live without turbo brush tools. When you consider how long Miele have been at it making cylinder vacs, SEBO design always surprises me - the all metal tubes on the D series for example aren't as heavy as Miele's standard ones and SEBO's main turbo brush floor head is also much lighter to push on carpeting. | ||
| Post# 277595 , Reply# 55 4/22/2014 at 13:25 (3,657 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Hi Chris , I did wonder if it wasa X1.1 from what I could remember reading the thread. Great performance from what it picked up that's good to see the 150 watt difference is not noticeable if that's what it collected in the bag! That's a great price you got the X1.1 for I've seen it at £199.99. Will look around. Great thing with the SEBO I can upgrade the pre filter to charcoal if I want. Aww 2 SEBO's in one house cool one for each floor like you say! Hope the move goes ok.
Thanks Jon | ||
| Post# 277599 , Reply# 56 4/22/2014 at 13:27 (3,657 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Ah, thank you Jon :).
I'll get some snaps of the new place up in Off-Topic once I've moved, especially of the utility room lol. Yes, we're using the 2 Sebo's in the house and then the Dirt Devil Handy for the stairs. Not sure which one will go on which floor yet, but we'll match it with the decor ;) | ||
| Post# 277603 , Reply# 57 4/22/2014 at 13:32 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Do you have a Miele Washing Machine Chris? I know one one on the forum does, but can't remember who. | ||
| Post# 277604 , Reply# 58 4/22/2014 at 13:39 (3,657 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277605 , Reply# 59 4/22/2014 at 13:48 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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I would like a Miele washing acne when I'm older & ave my own place. I like the idea of a Honeycomb drum & all of the wash programmes. | ||
| Post# 277606 , Reply# 60 4/22/2014 at 13:52 (3,657 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277608 , Reply# 61 4/22/2014 at 14:05 (3,657 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Thanks for that. Love how the door opens the opposite way as opposed to other machines. | ||
| Post# 277610 , Reply# 62 4/22/2014 at 14:46 (3,656 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Your welcome Chris :-)
That will be cool look forward to seeing them especially the utility room....lol! Well of course the SEBO's have to match the decor to which floor they will be cleaning on lol. Dirt devil handy think I had one of them once! Easier to do the stairs with hey! I'd like a Miele washing machine next time they look the business plus last a long time I believe. Having looked into the Miele S7 before I brought one now I want to replace it with a SEBO X I feel I shouldn't of got it to start with....do like the Miele brand though still! | ||
| Post# 277611 , Reply# 63 4/22/2014 at 14:48 (3,656 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277617 , Reply# 64 4/22/2014 at 15:06 (3,656 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Love how the door opens the opposite way
That seems to be a European thing. V Zug and some Bosch machines do it too.
Jon, I can't wait for the Miele matching set to be next to eachother, they do look rather lovely. They really are incredibly sturdy and reliable machines. I got 10 years parts and labour on mine. The Dirt Devil handy really is fantastic for the stairs, especially as we have 2 flights and a long haired cat. | ||
| Post# 277621 , Reply# 65 4/22/2014 at 15:25 (3,656 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Yes I have decided on the D2. Will have to refrain from buying vacuums off the car boot mind. LOL. Yes, the washer door opening on the opposite site must be a European thing. We could do with a machine that does that though. | ||
| Post# 277622 , Reply# 66 4/22/2014 at 15:28 (3,656 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Chris I bet you can't I'd be the same. Bet they will look lovely once together. When I've researched them seen video on them they certainly do. That's good peace of mind just incase. I paid extra for the 10 year on my S7 but have got a refund as not used it being I'm going to part with it!
I bet comes in handy wish I'd kept mine. Keep thinking of getting a hand held for the stairs and cars but the Felix is ok at mo! | ||
| Post# 277624 , Reply# 67 4/22/2014 at 15:31 (3,656 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277644 , Reply# 69 4/22/2014 at 16:36 (3,656 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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No of course not I wouldn't of either. I bet they did thinking you would buy them all! Good you resisted bet your glad you got that SEBO in the end. That's good you sold the Vax, least the spate cost less than what you sold the Vax for. It sure will be nice to see the X1.1 running again. They certainly do look a fab machine I agree. Although I've only used an X briefly in John Lewis. I do like them. Hopefully will have one myself soon! Hopefully you guys have helped me decide on which one to get!
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| Post# 277654 , Reply# 71 4/22/2014 at 16:58 (3,656 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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I like that little story...cool. Your certainly right there I find that when I mention SEBO people look at me gone out as to say who or what is SEBO! But suppose like you say they are a small company so not everyone knows about them.
The Felix is a great vacuum I do love mine one of the best vacuums I've ever had. Had it over 6 years no issues just performs time after time. Great versatile machine worth getting one when you can in the future. Of course your D2 first, hope you enjoy your new D2 when you get it and love using it. Thanks Beckham I hope so, I'm sure it will can't wait to get one now. Be a great addition to my Felix Classic too. | ||
| Post# 277669 , Reply# 72 4/22/2014 at 17:25 (3,656 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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I hear "What's a Sebo?" quite a lot. It's funny really, as Sebo are kind of secret pioneers. I mean, they were the first upright vacuum ever to incorporate an on-board hose (a feature which is now standard on all vacuums), the first upright ever to feature a clutch controlled brushroll and toothed belt and the first vacuum ever to feature hospital grade, S class filtration and now the whole world is obsessed with HEPA. | ||
| Post# 277691 , Reply# 73 4/22/2014 at 18:12 (3,656 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well, I think it is like specific household appliances, Chris - cue the table mixer. The 1970s in the UK may well have been home to the superb Sunbeam Mixmaster machines, but it didn't take long for the more robust Kenwood Chef to quickly find more favour.
Kenwood's Chef was built from a commercial unit and domestic versions - I don't think they were entirely responsible for the table mixer design, but they took the design and made something better out of it. Even now, spares are available for the A901 model made in the 1980s. | ||
| Post# 277769 , Reply# 75 4/23/2014 at 12:54 (3,656 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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To be honest, I don't think the smiling face has done anything but win the hearts of domestic buyers. When I was growing up our school had plenty of the old metal vacs that we now know as Henry with the face. Back then it was fixed handles at the top and often a bash or two as the years ran by. However quite a few primary schools often had Kirby uprights as well as a couple of Hoover Seniors.
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Post# 277776 , Reply# 76 4/23/2014 at 13:05 (3,656 days old) by gottahaveahoove  (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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| Post# 277839 , Reply# 77 4/23/2014 at 16:29 (3,655 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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It's so true Chris that people don't know who SEBO are or what a SEBO is! Still sort of surprises me in some respects. Though they are a small family owned business that keep their selves to themselves and just get on with what they do and don't make a big thing about it. But like you say have made a hugh impact on the market even though they are not well known.
So you know a few people that have heard of SEBO, thats great to hear Chris! I remember before I found SEBO and purchased my Felix, my Aunty telling me about her getting new vacuum after owning several Hoover Juniors, Turbopower 1's and a Dyson DC01 she went to the local vac shop and asked for something that is commercial quality and built to last to cope with the pet hair off of 3 dogs! They recommended a SEBO X, which she still uses today, it must be about 10 years old now. Its a SEBO X4 Extra she says its the best vacuum she has ever owned and used! When she told me this story having owned the vacuum a few years already, I said 'SEBO' what is one of them. Thats what prompted me to find out what a SEBO Vacuum was.... | ||
| Post# 277845 , Reply# 78 4/23/2014 at 16:42 (3,655 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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And here you are today 'madaboutsebo' :) | ||
| Post# 277854 , Reply# 79 4/23/2014 at 16:53 (3,655 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277864 , Reply# 81 4/23/2014 at 17:10 (3,655 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Thats great, glad the SEBO X1.1 has cleaned up a treat. I take it your very pleased with it? Are you using the new synthetic bags on the X1.1? Nice to know the X1.1 performs good on hard floors as well as carpets. Nice groomed carpets you can't beat it. Glad it's brought your carpet pile up.
I like the idea of that with the hose and wand, great design. Above floor cleaning on the go. Thats why a like that idea on the X series unlike my Miele S7 you can't do that without pushing the handle back to upright before you can use the hose! I think the SEBO Uprights are blind to Dyson! Plus you get a nice handle to hold when using the SEBO hose and wand too! | ||
| Post# 277868 , Reply# 82 4/23/2014 at 17:18 (3,655 days old) by moojuiceuk (Southampton, England) | ||
Handle to hold whilst using the wand...
I thought that was essential! You try using the hose on a Sebo upright without one hand on the handle and chances are you'll soon find the machine will be pulled over, clouting you on the head. When using mums X4, I sometimes just lay the machine down or use the extension hose to prevent it toppling.
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| Post# 277870 , Reply# 83 4/23/2014 at 17:24 (3,655 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 277878 , Reply# 84 4/23/2014 at 18:39 (3,655 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I know what you mean
I tend to use either. I like using just the hose and whatever cleaning tool dependent on the requirement. Holding the end of the hose with one hand and one hand in the middle won't allow the vacuum to fall down - it just restricts the length - after all if I want more, I'll slide the hose into the hoister wand and away I'll go.
Despite Miele's best efforts though - SEBO's old long crevice tool is the only one I can wedge all the way down into my Hotpoint tumble dryer for getting cloth fibre out of the insert once the filter has been taken out. | ||
| Post# 277923 , Reply# 85 4/24/2014 at 08:13 (3,655 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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It's just how the wand & hose are easy to grab without fuss. | ||
| Post# 278060 , Reply# 86 4/24/2014 at 15:46 (3,654 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 278172 , Reply# 87 4/25/2014 at 13:36 (3,654 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Here's a pic of my Felix hose and long crevice tool inserted into my Hotpoint tumble dryer. As you can see it can go all the way down in there. Also, the X hose lacks the bent part of the Felix handle and can also do the same.
The K3 handle however (with the electronic control and thicker swivel point) can be trickier to use. One other reason to why I'm not keen on the K3 handle - it is far smaller but not as light on the wrist and not as easy to use as the non-electric ones like the K1 series, D2s etc. 
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| Post# 278196 , Reply# 88 4/25/2014 at 16:55 (3,653 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 278207 , Reply# 89 4/25/2014 at 17:21 (3,653 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 278210 , Reply# 90 4/25/2014 at 17:32 (3,653 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Oh no, that was good of SEBO to send a new one for free. Don't blame you.
I emailed SEBO the other week about the hose on my Felix as I think the hose on my Classic is made slightly different to the other hoses on other Felix models. It doesn't seem as long or as flexible or stretchy as others I've seen. They said I could order a replacement at £30 but I've not as I feel it will be the same as the one I've already got. I can see the difference to against the extension hose I've got. Still does the job as it is. | ||
| Post# 278236 , Reply# 91 4/25/2014 at 21:46 (3,653 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Yep, the classic cream hose is the original one from SEBO's original line up - SEBO updated the hoses after 2010 with the introduction of other new models at the time whilst the Classic and Fun models were phased out. Eventually the Ice Blue version was also phased out.
I already purchased a silver one for my Felix two years ago to replace the original one that came with my Felix Navy - there's no visible difference until you stretch out both hoses and the newer hose does stretch out a bit more without compacting up so much. | ||
| Post# 278251 , Reply# 92 4/26/2014 at 02:24 (3,653 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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I thought the hose was different on my Felix Classic thanks for confirming that sebo_fan. I was beginning to think it was just me that thought there was a difference to the later ones! I take 2010 when the new Felix models came out was when they changed the motor too?
I do like the silver and dark grey colours SEBO do. That's right you can't tell any visible difference until you stretch them out. Suppose I could always get a grey hose! | ||
| Post# 278275 , Reply# 93 4/26/2014 at 12:00 (3,653 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Im not sure about the model update with the motor. That might have been the same year but not the same month when the hoses were replaced or changed.
Generic hoses for the Felix and Dart used to be the same but then SEBO went and changed the cuff on the Dart as the Dart doesn't have the safety fail safe auto stop latch where the bottom insert is located on the body. Thus, when vacuuming normally, if the hose was taken out by accident on a Felix, the brush roll would stop automatically. Not on the Dart however - the brush roll keeps going. | ||
| Post# 278283 , Reply# 94 4/26/2014 at 13:03 (3,653 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Is the Dart the commercial model of the Felix? | ||
| Post# 278284 , Reply# 95 4/26/2014 at 13:05 (3,653 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 278301 , Reply# 96 4/26/2014 at 15:27 (3,652 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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I just wondered if it was the same year or so.
I didn't know that about the Dart not having the safety switch like the Felix has to stop the brush roll spinning if the hose is removed while the main handle is released. Been looking on the SEBO German site again today they have got some nice pictures on there of the model ranges they do some close ups too. I see the UK website has been posting some recent posts under the news/press release one saying the nation is back in love with carpet again turning away from hard floors! Of course they mention the features of the Felix and X series. | ||
| Post# 278303 , Reply# 97 4/26/2014 at 15:42 (3,652 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Carpets are popular again, yay! :D | ||
| Post# 278304 , Reply# 98 4/26/2014 at 15:57 (3,652 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 278308 , Reply# 99 4/26/2014 at 17:03 (3,652 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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It always amazes me when you have an empty Dust Bin or Bag & Vacuum Hard Floors Alone - how much dust is actually in the container or bag. Looking at most floors you would never think so. | ||
| Post# 278309 , Reply# 100 4/26/2014 at 17:12 (3,652 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 278314 , Reply# 101 4/26/2014 at 19:03 (3,652 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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There are quite a few differences between the Felix and the Dart.
When the Dart first came to the UK, it always had a fixed suction slider control - not variable suction control and no 3 point height adjustment on the handle that the Felix enjoys. In addition the ET-1 for the Dart had no brush roll on/off button but simply a light indicator to show wrong brush roll or brush obstruction. As soon as the Kombi Deluxe floor head was designed, it was used on the Dart 4 which ironically featured variable suction control, but still no brush roll on/off button and no safety stop on the hose release -after all, the simpler things get, the better they are for a commercial stage of cleaning. Im not sure where you have read reports that carpets are healthier than hard floors though. I can't imagine that can be possible. Hard floors aren't porous enough to trap dust mites, though they may be susceptible to the bugs within pet hair and associated bacteria - but any hot mop going over a hard floor can sanitize it - even better with a dry steam mop - and continuous sweeping with a suction only floor head or parquet floor head. Don't forget, SEBO also produce the excellent DISCO floor polisher for the Felix/Dart. It was developed to polish a hard floor without actually washing it. SEBO offer 4 different cleaning disks. Extreme Makeover U.S often helps out families who have dust allergies. Carpets are not installed, but natural wood or tile is used. Also an indoor air system that constantly purifies the air and keeps dust back is also installed. I welcome that in the UK home eventually, rather than rely on whatever comes next - antibacterial carpets? I shudder to think what extra maintenance would be required there. | ||
| Post# 278315 , Reply# 102 4/26/2014 at 19:04 (3,652 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Forgot to add, hard floors make dust more apparent because it sits on the surface and gets into "tumbleweed" balls of dust that end up floating around - unless you clean all the time - which has to be done to keep on top of all the dust that gets accumulated in the home, not just from those who bring it in, but from added systems in the home like central heating systems.
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| Post# 278561 , Reply# 103 4/28/2014 at 16:09 (3,650 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Thanks sebo_fan for sharing and detailing the differences between the Felix and Dart, didn't realise there was so many differences between the domestic and commercial models. Must admit I've not studied in depth SEBO's Commercial models so much as I have their domestic as yet. Interesting to know and read of the differences. Like you say simpler things are the better they are for commercial cleaning. Less to go wrong or have issues with.
I will have to see if I can find the articles, it articles I've read in passing so I see if I can find them again and will post the links. I like the look and function of the SEBO Disco Floor Polisher looks fab. Thought about getting one for my hall, kitchen as I've got high gloss tiles but not sure it would be cost effective to get one just for that small area! That be good indoor air system to purify the indoor air. I would say hard floors are better for allergy sufferers, easy to keep clean if you keep on top of it and like you say hot mop or dry steam mop to sanitise it. By the when when was the Dart and Felix launched was it early 90's? | ||
| Post# 278579 , Reply# 104 4/28/2014 at 18:03 (3,650 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I think the Dart came to market in 2005. Felix came the year after to the UK - other markets got the Felix first dependent on market sales.
SEBO required a commercial vacuum cleaner (from what I understand) in some markets to replace the G1/G2 which was larger by bag capacity and some owners/companies required a more nimble and versatile upright. However it also meant SEBO UK stopped selling the manual height adjustment version of the X1/known as G1/G2 and replaced it with the Dart. I wasn't that happy about that. I still think SEBO UK are missing a trick not selling the manual height adjuster version. | ||
| Post# 278581 , Reply# 105 4/28/2014 at 18:06 (3,650 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 278768 , Reply# 106 4/30/2014 at 16:36 (3,648 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Thanks sebo_fan for the info on the Dart\Felix I did wonder if it was around that time. I was watching this recent video I found on the Felix and it mentioned it has been around 14 years which would mean it came out around 2000! See at about 4m52s in it mentions how SEBO was the first to come out with the swivel head and then mentions 14 years! Good tip on removing front brush strip on the deluxe parquet brush if you have large debris on a hard floor, tried it works a treat. Never thought to do that! See video below:
Shame they stopped selling the G1\G2 in favour of the Dart. Suppose they thought the Dart would sell better due to it being more nimble and versatile and sales of the G1\G2 would drop due to this. I agree they should still offer that range. I'd of loved to have seen the prototype Dart with the older SEBO ET-H head! | ||
| Post# 278770 , Reply# 107 4/30/2014 at 16:38 (3,648 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 278897 , Reply# 108 5/1/2014 at 09:36 (3,648 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well that's a dealer video - a lot of info in that video isn't wrong but it isn't accurate.
He mistakes the SEBO for Miele for a brief second and says that the SEBO brand are from Europe - oh if only all brands from Europe were the same lol. Germany would have been better, had he said that as buyers in the U.S would know that from Miele advertising/reputation etc. However I do like the link he makes with the typical dirt that his shop/region in which he is based in and supplies that in this demo. He also shows off edge cleaning - but only on one side of the Felix ET-1 - also the ET-1 IS designed for both hard floor and carpet - but he promotes the SEBO deluxe Parquet floor tool instead - but this is also sales speak. True whilst he says "over 15 years," I think he means the fact that SEBO have been producing PN heads for over 15 years but the way in which he says this, it does sound like the Felix would have come out in 2000. A slight exaggeration on the timeline. | ||
| Post# 278930 , Reply# 109 5/1/2014 at 15:54 (3,647 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Great overview of the video! You would think he would have mentioned Germany as the vacuum is made there and is stamped on the ET-1 cleaning head!
I thought that about the ET-1 being used on hard floors. I must admit I use both depending on type of clean I'm doing, quick vacuum use the ET-1 head for all floors. I only use the deluxe parquet head when doing bigger cleans like main weekly cleaning. That's why I asked when the Felix came out as I thought I was the year you mention. Unlike the video like you say it would have the Felix coming out around 2000. Hopefully in the next few weeks going to test drive a SEBO X4 but trying to see where I can try an X1.1 out too! | ||
| Post# 278966 , Reply# 110 5/1/2014 at 17:57 (3,647 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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