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Post# 178107   4/23/2012 at 08:54 (2,902 days old) by kirby (passadena md)        

i sucept i might be opeaning up a can of warms here like the original post did but any way what do you perferr a baged vacuum or bagglees

Post# 178108 , Reply# 1   4/23/2012 at 09:07 (2,902 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

As an allergy sufferer, I prefer bagged. By bagged I don't mean the cheap WalMart plastic vacuums that use low grade paper. I mean the Polypropylene HEPA bags used in Miele, Kirby, etc. While my Dyson filters good, I find myself bringing outside to empty it for good measure. Both are good systems, but I prefer bagged.

Post# 178111 , Reply# 2   4/23/2012 at 09:17 (2,902 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Oh Lord not again...

No offense David, but could a moderator please close this thread, as all somebody has to do to see the views on Bagged and Bagless cleaners is find my old thread, not repeat themselves again in this one.

Post# 178116 , Reply# 3   4/23/2012 at 09:27 (2,902 days old) by kirby (passadena md)        

where is your old thread i looked and could nt find it can you post a link to it

Post# 178119 , Reply# 4   4/23/2012 at 09:31 (2,902 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Here is the link to it, in all it's 118 post entirety...


Post# 178120 , Reply# 5   4/23/2012 at 09:35 (2,902 days old) by kirby (passadena md)        

i disagree with you i think baggless is best

Post# 178121 , Reply# 6   4/23/2012 at 09:43 (2,902 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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And I realise there are pros to Bagless, but the majority of us here prefer Bagged.

Post# 178124 , Reply# 7   4/23/2012 at 10:55 (2,902 days old) by Trebor ()        
I prefer...

bagged, Even at 4 bucks a pop for Miele bags changed once a month, and a new Hepa filter, it's better than getting sick and going to the Dr.

The Lindhaus paper bags retail for $24.95 for 10 with two Filtrete exhaust filters included. and the bags are treated with nano-silver to kill bacteria and viruses on contact.

Post# 178125 , Reply# 8   4/23/2012 at 11:10 (2,902 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Totally agree Robert :)

Post# 178133 , Reply# 9   4/23/2012 at 11:59 (2,902 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

I like Dyson for bagless. Otherwise bagged for me. The part I struggle with on the bag front is the smell which can arise if the same bag is left in place. So much so that I have in the past used a new bag everytime I used my cleaner. But I have a Dyson DC04 now so that solves my problem.

Post# 178135 , Reply# 10   4/23/2012 at 12:05 (2,902 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        
il Ditto it cos I can

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thing is there seems to be a thing for someones threads to gain as many posts as they can get to somehow simulate popularity.

Have noticed that for a while now, and once a topic gets around 70 or 80 posts you find it then gets repeated by someone who wants to be popular.

Always backfires and thread gets ignored.

Had just the same over at about a Hotpoint thread where 200 odd pictures were posted and 3 months later a "have a go" member wanted us to post it all again depsite it being in the archives.

turned out he wanted a popular thread. Highly original huh.

Its NEVER the amount of posts a thread gets but the QUALITY inside them that makes a good thread. Have read some really good threads where only 1 post has been made and its been informative and cleared up a matter without any need for other questions or ponders let alone drivel to bump the count up.

Post# 178138 , Reply# 11   4/23/2012 at 12:39 (2,902 days old) by Trebor ()        
If one is truly allergic...

the question comes down to this: How can one minimize the dust released when changing the bag or dumping the dirt cup?

With the bagged units a flap or seal of some kind helps keep the dust and dirt trapped. Don't squeeze the bag.

With the bagless units, a bottom-empty cup is a must, and it must be set on the bottom of the trash can and very slowly lifted up while the release lever is held down so as to minimize stirring up dust.

It would be interesting to see both operations conducted under UV light to see how much dust is actually released.

The only way to totally eliminate dust when emptying is with a Rainbow or similar water trap vacuum. Even a bagged central vacuum will release a tiny bit of dust when changing the bag.

Post# 178142 , Reply# 12   4/23/2012 at 12:54 (2,902 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

I prefer bagless for convenience and no extra running costs (Dyson and Vax Machs) and bagged for suction power and dirt disposal.

Post# 178145 , Reply# 13   4/23/2012 at 13:10 (2,902 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa, OK)        
What about Electrolux!

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And their self-sealing bags. Personally, I think the Electrolux canisters have the best bag system. I've had very little dust escape when I hold onto the cardboard collar. True, some dust will escape if the bag is squeezed. No one mentioned Electrolux and this topic has been done to death!

Post# 178212 , Reply# 14   4/23/2012 at 19:00 (2,902 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I prefer bagged to be honest -the only advantage of having bagless/cyclonic (and the only reason I have such a machine) is to clear up all the bird seed and dry pet food on a daily basis - fine if its on a hard floor whereupon dustpan and brush time - but if its on carpet and ground in, a bagless, cyclonic upright takes over from my old cordless, "bag-less" Black and Decker dust buster.

Post# 178214 , Reply# 15   4/23/2012 at 19:05 (2,902 days old) by FantomLightning (Ohio)        

With all due respect... If you're going to jack a very popular thread that was already created and discussed, at least put the effort into correctly spelling things...

Post# 178220 , Reply# 16   4/23/2012 at 19:20 (2,902 days old) by jimbeckwith ()        
Bagged or Bagless

I use a Hoover Windtunnel Model U5753-900 to clean the contract grade carpet in my store (a custom framing shop) and am satisfied with its performance provided that the bin is emptied after every cleaning. It is no good at all for products such as Resolve High Traffic Carpet Cleaner (the kind that you shake on the carpet, brush in to clean and vacuum up when dry) as the HEPA filter clogs up totally and then needs to be replaced, which is not a cheap date. So, a Convertible or other paper bagged cleaner would be a better choice for that kind of stuff and I'd replace the bag after I used it for something like that...

Post# 178276 , Reply# 17   4/24/2012 at 07:10 (2,901 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Oh, and just thought I'd better mention that I've reported this thread, not because of the discussion in it but because of the fact it is a clear copy of my thread which is in the archives and covers everything.

If you agree please report it also, thanks.

Post# 178295 , Reply# 18   4/24/2012 at 08:49 (2,901 days old) by kirby (passadena md)        

Well i don't really apriciate the way you are bashing me STOP IT! thanks.

Ps I am thinking about repoteing you don't TICK me off!

Post# 178309 , Reply# 19   4/24/2012 at 09:33 (2,901 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Oh for the love of GOD, here we go again!

Isn't there a minimum age requirement on this forum anymore?

Post# 178330 , Reply# 20   4/24/2012 at 12:16 (2,901 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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UM.. JM Can I draw your attention to something that you are clearly missing?

This is an aspect I realised when I created my own thread posts - UNLESS YOU PAY, the threads that you create get dropped to the bottom of the view list on here and then become locked into archives. So even if you complain about a thread that has been "copied," how can others make different points or voice their opinions if old threads get locked??

Post# 178338 , Reply# 21   4/24/2012 at 12:43 (2,901 days old) by jakesvacs ()        

Back to the original topic...
I like both, nothing like a retro vacuum with a bag, but there is the coolness of the multi-cyclonic vacuums!

Post# 178354 , Reply# 22   4/24/2012 at 13:45 (2,901 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        
" Isn't there a minimum age requirement on this foru

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If there isn't there should be Chris.

Then maybe threads like this would be avoided.

I'm not saying all young members are bad, far from it, but my point is do you really think an adult would copy a thread already created with 118 posts in it displaying many points of view ?

All I'm saying is this thread is not required.

And as for you reporting me David, don't even bother, I'm simply displaying my point of view, and if anybody needs reported, as I already said, it is you.

If I've offended anybody, sorry, but I say what I feel.

Post# 178362 , Reply# 23   4/24/2012 at 14:14 (2,901 days old) by HooverCelebrity ()        

I'll be taking care of this. However, it will need to happen tonight -- as I have to go back to work shortly.  Thanks everyone for your concern.

"i sucept i might be opeaning up a can of warms here like the original post did but any way what do you perferr a baged vacuum or bagglees"

Then don't open the can of worms.


By "opening a can of worms..." that is practically begging to create drama on this website -- and it has.  That is not allowed, and I will not stand for it.  David/"kirby",  I will be sending you an email tonight. 


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