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Hoover Convertible or Eureka?
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Post# 132211   4/13/2011 at 20:08 (4,697 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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I was wondering what your guys' opinion was on this. Would you'd rather have a Hoover Convertible or a F&G type Eureka. They are both extremely popular and similar. I personally think the Eurekas clean better but the looks go to Hoover. But if could only collect one, I think I'd go with the Hoovers. What about you?

Post# 132212 , Reply# 1   4/13/2011 at 20:15 (4,697 days old) by LongLiveKirbys (Minneapolis)        
I would have to say..

i like the looks of both types of machines but i would have to say convertibles clean better. (then again it also depends on the eureka model and brushroll)

Post# 132213 , Reply# 2   4/13/2011 at 20:17 (4,697 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)        
Hoover all the way!

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I currently have no Eurekas in my collection besides a Rotomatic PN. Although they do clean very well! I personally prefer Hoover over Eureka any day. It really doesn't make a difference to me which one cleans better. 

 

Eureka are great vacuums I just prefer Hoovers. But that’s just my opinion.  

 


Post# 132214 , Reply# 3   4/13/2011 at 20:21 (4,697 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)        

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I prefer Eurekas. I love the vibra groomer brushrolls, and the amazing sound of the motor is so nice to me. But I must agree, looks go to Hoover. They used much nicer colors and variations than Eureka. But over all, it would be Eureka F&G's

Post# 132218 , Reply# 4   4/13/2011 at 20:26 (4,697 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)        
Whoops! I guess I do have a Eureka

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I recently found an Electrolux Aptitude upright (in the trash, with a clogged hose) that I really enjoy using. And I guess it’s technically a Eureka of sorts. I really like the variable speed control. They seem to be a pain to find bags for.

 


Post# 132219 , Reply# 5   4/13/2011 at 20:26 (4,697 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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hmmm...Good question!  When Hoover was using the Type C bag, I would have given the edge to Eureka for its F&G bag set up.  But when Hoover went to the Type A bag, I'd have to say that the advantage swung back to Hoover.  I think that Hoover's Type A design is better and Hoover belts seem to last longer.  But they both clean very well and they both have some very nice aesthetic designs too. 


Post# 132225 , Reply# 6   4/13/2011 at 20:37 (4,697 days old) by Brandon_W_T ()        

So hard to choose!


I love Hoovers


But I also Love Eurekas!


Depends on the age I suppose. Ill take a 50s or early 60s convertible over most eureka uprights. Ill take a boxtop eureka or older cordaway upright over a late 60s to newer convertible.


Post# 132262 , Reply# 7   4/13/2011 at 22:12 (4,697 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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I may be biased, but I really feel the Eureka uprights sold in the same years as the Hoover Convertibles were better carpet cleaners. This is simply for two reasons. One was obviously Eureka's top fill F&G dust bags which kept a clean path for air to flow into the bag. The other was the front end height adjusters (Rugulator or Dial-A-Nap). It always seemed that adjusting the working end of the machine provided a better alignment for the cleaner on the carpet. Convertibles adjusted the rear wheels, and so the front was always at some odd angle to the carpet surface.

In Consumer Reports testing, even the old 260 was deemed a superior cleaner of carpets (even though it was not recommended due to the floor scratching caused by the Bottom Plate when used with attachments). By the 1970's Eureka uprights were consistently rated higher than any Convertibles. It was only with the arrival of the Concept uprights that Hoover became a real competitor to Eureka in the upright category.


Post# 132264 , Reply# 8   4/13/2011 at 22:38 (4,697 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Would be Eureka for me here, maybe from bias of using them a lot in the past and never the Hoover? Hard to compare like that.

Post# 132271 , Reply# 9   4/13/2011 at 23:14 (4,696 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
um.........I MUST insist on a

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HOOVER !! !! !!I, too, have no Eurekas, and am certain there will be none in the future. I did have to use one in the rectory, years ago. NOT bashing, just my preference.

Post# 132276 , Reply# 10   4/13/2011 at 23:20 (4,696 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)        

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I'd have to say Eureka. I feel that they clean better, though I don't like the F&G bags. I wish Eureka had gone to a semi ridged fill tube like Kirby, Hoover and Royal. That would make a good vacuum even better.
Justin


Post# 132296 , Reply# 11   4/14/2011 at 00:39 (4,696 days old) by Automatic-Shift ()        
Hoover For Sure

Hoover brand is my favorite for so many reasons, and above all I would say not just personally, but as an icon, the Convertible wins! Eureka brand while a competitor somehow never captured my interest, save for two models: Eureka Imperial upright (box-style bag), and the Freedom cordless upright (world's first). For those passionate about Eureka we love you too :)

Post# 132304 , Reply# 12   4/14/2011 at 01:52 (4,696 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
Eureka

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Obviously Hoovers outsold Eurekas, but my favorite was the Eureka Twin Power Automatic with the F & G bag. I liked the rugulator in the 2000 series. I told someone earlier, that I bought one of those and the vacuum store still had a nos square handle with the two speed switch on the back, like the Model 260's. I had them switch handles. That was my favorite vac of all times, but when the ESP series came out I just had to have one and traded in......So sorry I did that. Now I am trying to find another one that is similar....

 

I agree with whoever said hoover did a much better job with colors. It was a joy to see all the different colors they came out with.

 

Also let me say this. Anyone buying either a Hoover or Eureka at that time would have ended up with an excellent cleaner.

 

 

 

Bud, no picture to share, wish I did. I found a youtube link with a video from hoover1060, except mine was blue in color with the square handle.



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Post# 132321 , Reply# 13   4/14/2011 at 07:18 (4,696 days old) by kenkart ()        
Eureka!!

But to me the 250, 255, and 260 with the Disturbulator brushroll is far and away a better carpet cleaner than the newer Eurekas, as for Hoovers, I have a few but just never was a Hoover person, I think the reason why is in 1969 when I was 4 my parents put down wall to wall ugly green loop pile carpet " My Mom and her Sister HAD to have GREEN!!!! everything", anyway, Mom went to the Family Stamp store and for a BUNCH of stamp books got an 1140 Dial a Matic, of course I wanted an Electrolux because my Aunt had a Tan G that wasn't but a year old then!!! then in 1978 I BEGGED!!her to buy a Super J, she bought a Celebrity II Powermatic, which cleaned well...but wasnt a Electrolux " I hadnt really learned about Compacts and Filter Queens yet!, So that is why I think I never was interested in Hoovers, it was not that they were not good, because they are I just always thought if you bought it from a salesman, and it cost more, it was better, I dont think that now, or at least not as much, but im 45 and not 14!!!An Electrolux to my mind was a status symbol...only the kids Moms I knew who were " Rich" had electroluxes LOL!! And at that age,you are constantly thinking about what everyone else thinks..

Post# 132341 , Reply# 14   4/14/2011 at 11:34 (4,696 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        

I'm definitely a Hoover man, through and through (duh!).. but I think it really depends on what kind of carpet is being cleaned.  I think that most of the early Convertibles don't really clean today's modern wall to wall carpets very well (thick, heavy plush, frieze);  they weren't designed to clean that type of carpet. Not totally sure about the Eureka end of that; I don't have enough experience using early Eurekas in a modern setting.

 

I agree that Hoover did much better with the colors.. And I also think there was a point in time where Eureka really gave Hoover a run for their money as far as performance goes.  It almost seemed like Hoover got too blind-sighted by cost-cutting in the late 70's and Eureka used that to their advantage. 

 

My favorite Eureka is probably the Green early 80's 2-speed ESP upright (not sure of the model #), it has the switch on the front of the handle, and a green stripe up the side of the bag.  My next-door neighbor had one when I was a kid, and always just loved the looks of it.  I have one packed away in a box, in mediocre cosmetic condition (but great running condition) that I was using as a daily driver for a while when I was living in Milwaukee, then NC.  I would love to find a nicer example of it sometime.  I did see one on eBay a few years back, but was too late to bid on it.


Post# 132345 , Reply# 15   4/14/2011 at 11:43 (4,696 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        

I should also say that I do have a fabulous Eureka that Robert found at an estate sale... We took it to Fred N's house a little over a year ago, and gave it a makeover.  It's really one of my favorite cleaners to use -- such an elegant machine, and it just purrs.  But one of the rear wheels broke completely off, and while I do have a replacement wheel on a donor machine, I need to get around to fixing it. 

 

Here's a picture of it: 


Post# 132354 , Reply# 16   4/14/2011 at 12:58 (4,696 days old) by 1926700 ()        
me and Phillip Muller think......

well hoovers and Eurekas all have there advantages and disadvantages...

for instance...
the Eureka had
pros
higher speed motor than Convertible
good edge cleaning
better air flow

cons
cheaper fan cheaper motor construction
cheaper belts
cheaper cord hooks
cheaper handles

the convertibles had....
pros
lasts longer
better motor construction
better fan
better handles
better cord hooks
better switches
easier to service
they had a rugged better built machine

cons
not as good edge cleaning
not as good carpet adjustment
heaver
not as easy to push
not easy tool use





Post# 132356 , Reply# 17   4/14/2011 at 13:19 (4,696 days old) by tazcatsdad (Buffalo, NY)        
I just can't decide!

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I like them both!  Both machines have their strenghts and weaknesses, and both were iconic cleaners in their time.  Furthermore, if you think about it both are still around today albeit in commercial forms ... a testament to the design quality of both brands!

 

If I were REALLY forced to make a choice of one over the other, though, I would have to choose the Eurekas.  I really do prefer their design over the Hoovers ... or at least I did until Hoover came out with the Type A bag!

 

BTW, Fred S. -- is this the Eureka to which you were making reference in your post?  If it is, it's a late '70s - early '80s Eureka ESP model 2090A upright.



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Post# 132364 , Reply# 18   4/14/2011 at 13:47 (4,696 days old) by lovecanisters ()        
Hoover

although not an upright vacuum person, Hoover will always have my heart...along with Kenmore...I have the 1030 with the 1031 tools{never used} from my childhood. Purchased before I was born ;) but remember the vacuum as a child...and playing with it constantly, as this became a spare. My parents purchased a Kenmore Powermate Canister in 1975... ahhhh the memories...haha

Post# 247307 , Reply# 19   8/23/2013 at 08:23 (3,834 days old) by ncovert (Grove City, PA)        
I have to say...

...Eureka cleans better, because it has a bigger fan, better height adjuster, and the lovely F&G bag system instead of the crappy C bags...


Post# 247316 , Reply# 20   8/23/2013 at 09:39 (3,834 days old) by hoover78 (dallas tx)        
I think that most of the early Convertibles don't reall

HooverCelebrity, are you talking about the early 1960's/70s models? How would you say the later plastic convertibles starting with the 1979 U4119/U4127 models and so on, how do u think they perform on today's modern carpet? Just curious?

Post# 247342 , Reply# 21   8/23/2013 at 12:36 (3,834 days old) by ncovert (Grove City, PA)        
In my opinion...

Andy, I think the performance of the plastic base Convertibles is okay. They perform better with A bags over C though.


Post# 247351 , Reply# 22   8/23/2013 at 13:21 (3,834 days old) by hoover78 (dallas tx)        
ncovert

yea thats what i've read everyone saying how the A bag was a big improvement for the convertible..
I dunno, ive just spent a whole year debating between which vacs are good, ive tried both old and newer plastic convertibles and just can't decide... im currently using a windtunnel (U5491-900)which IMO grooms just as good as the convertible, ive used concepts.. do great as well but just too clunky n heavy. But out of all the different makes and models of vacs ive tried... i keep coming back to the convertible... but just was concerned it wasn't effective enough for the thick dense carpet i have througout my whole house.

Ncovert.. i know ur the expert... what can u recommend for me? haha


Post# 247357 , Reply# 23   8/23/2013 at 13:38 (3,834 days old) by ncovert (Grove City, PA)        
I'm no expert, Andy...

...but a plastic base Convertible is fine. I recommend swapping the C bag fill tube for an A bag one, to improve the performance, and it will be less messy :D

 


Post# 247359 , Reply# 24   8/23/2013 at 13:41 (3,834 days old) by hoover78 (dallas tx)        
thanks

ill give it a try :D

Post# 247364 , Reply# 25   8/23/2013 at 14:05 (3,834 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
um, let me see now............

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HOOVER, hands down.

Post# 247390 , Reply# 26   8/23/2013 at 16:46 (3,834 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Really? John preferring a Hoover? Get outta town! I could have sworn he'd prefer a Filter Queen!

 

*ducks, runs like hell, and laughs like a fool* 


Post# 247420 , Reply# 27   8/24/2013 at 00:33 (3,833 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
"Run, Toto,

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RUNNNN"

Post# 247442 , Reply# 28   8/24/2013 at 07:40 (3,833 days old) by Vinvac (Dubuque IA)        

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Just my two cents..

Although I think Hoover had a good vacuum, a Eureka will out clean a Hoover anytime. If you vacuum in your bare feet, you can feel the Hoover sending dirt back at your feet.

The early model Eureka with the all brush Distribulator brush roll was an awesome cleaner. The woodin brush roll with the replaceable beater bar was not as good as the Vibra Groomer One or Two.

The F&G bag was far superior to the C bag of that time period. Now that they have made the ST bag, it makes any older model Eureka a fine vacuum with much better filtration.

The later model Eureka that used the front mount attachment sets that covered the brush roll were much better than the rear conversion of the Hoover at the time. When Hoover went to the front mount, that also improved.

Eureka always had a longer cord, full wrap bumper, most had a handle grip...the Dail-a-nap was a much better design for rug height adjustment as well. It kept the nozzle level to the carpet.

I think the design speaks for itself as it is still in use today and still very popular.







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