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New Arrival - from the 1950s - in its original box!
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Post# 107886   9/7/2010 at 13:49 (3,559 days old) by 1066hoovers ()        

Hi there. Just got this Hoover still in its orignal box with all the packaging and tools!
What can it be?

Post# 107887 , Reply# 1   9/7/2010 at 13:49 (3,559 days old) by 1066hoovers ()        
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Post# 107888 , Reply# 2   9/7/2010 at 13:50 (3,559 days old) by 1066hoovers ()        


Post# 107889 , Reply# 3   9/7/2010 at 13:51 (3,559 days old) by 1066hoovers ()        
Last one!

An early Model 417E - a VERY early blue one!

Post# 107899 , Reply# 4   9/7/2010 at 17:04 (3,559 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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Isn't it amazing that people will keep the original packaging for all these years. I always think, "How fast can I get rid of this box?" Very nice find!

Post# 107912 , Reply# 5   9/7/2010 at 17:58 (3,559 days old) by sanimatic ()        
I agree Eurekastar

I've thrown out all my packaging ASAP for years, but lately for VAC purchases, I have held on to a few boxes that weren't ridiculous to store, for our future collectors to enjoy. My grandmother had all the boxes from her 1950's Hoovers that were almost as appealing to me, as a collector, as the machine, itself.

The bigger question is will the next generation have any interest in our current vacs at all, let alone the packaging it came in ??

Post# 108323 , Reply# 6   9/14/2010 at 10:06 (3,553 days old) by 1066hoovers ()        
Question about the hose

Does anybody know whether this white hose is original to this model. Would I be right to think that the hose was blue originally?

Post# 108402 , Reply# 7   9/15/2010 at 12:11 (3,552 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover 417

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Nice find there Jonathan, never seen one in a box, yes the original hose would have been blue...and yes Please keep The Box...LOl

The paint was sooo frail on these that the slightest bit of damp or scratch had it blistering or peeling off...

Post# 108403 , Reply# 8   9/15/2010 at 12:12 (3,552 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        

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Meant to say, original hose blue, but later ones white and yours looks an original with the fittings!!

Post# 108434 , Reply# 9   9/15/2010 at 21:48 (3,551 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
White hose

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It is surprising that another has turned up in original box - as I have one too. I think the white hose is a replacement although melded on the the original fittings.

I believe that the shortlived second version of the 417 (417C) may have had a braided hose, but that on the 417E as shown above would have been blue - in fact it appears that the C and E versions existed side by side in 1957. The 417E carried on until 1962 or so, when replaced with the 417G, which was the last version of this model but with colour revisions over the years.

The 417G did have the white hose and returned to pip & clip tool attachement although it used the smaller combination carpet/floor nozzle used on the Hooverette

417G in its first incarnation shown below


Post# 108452 , Reply# 10   9/16/2010 at 12:23 (3,550 days old) by 1066hoovers ()        
The hose

Nice photos guys!
I cant decide whether the white hose is original. The rubber hose ends do not have the Hoover logo on them and are not the same as the Hoover 638 cleaning tools hose ends which dates from the same time. However the instruction leaflet which I also got in the box (and it is just a piece of paper!) mentions the double stretch hose and has an illustration of the hose in use with the rubber ends looking more like the 638 hose ends. I will look up the month of manufacture (I can look up the serial number) and post it next - it might help to work it out.
Best wishes, Jonathan

Post# 109010 , Reply# 11   9/22/2010 at 13:17 (3,544 days old) by 1066hoovers ()        
1964 Hoover Manual 417 pic

Here is the front sheet of the 1964 service manual.

Post# 109011 , Reply# 12   9/22/2010 at 13:18 (3,544 days old) by 1066hoovers ()        
Production numbers up to 1964


Post# 109012 , Reply# 13   9/22/2010 at 13:21 (3,544 days old) by 1066hoovers ()        
My 417E

My 417E Serial number is 186123 making it around March/April 1958.
Interesting - the manual indicates that it should still be maroon at this date! So an early 417E in blue with the old style toolset. Another thing that doesn't seem quite right - the flex and rubber grommit that holds it as it enters the cleaner are both maroon. A throw back to the old colours?

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