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Post# 94491   3/25/2010 at 21:00 (3,490 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        

A Mc Allister Ross Hydro Vac




Post# 94492 , Reply# 1   3/25/2010 at 21:00 (3,490 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
close up

nameplate

Post# 94493 , Reply# 2   3/25/2010 at 21:02 (3,490 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
Filter Queen 350...

With the Shoe Bag attachment caddy.

Post# 94494 , Reply# 3   3/25/2010 at 21:03 (3,490 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
another

1949

Post# 94497 , Reply# 4   3/25/2010 at 21:29 (3,490 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Oh boy, someone else has one!

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Very cool McAllister, Hans, and in great looking cosmetic shape!

Mine's a bit worse for wear, needs a brown Krylon hammer finish paint job but I have the hose at least to pair up with whatever tools and wands I can find. It was missing the switch and button and hard wired. I wired in a standard Filter Queen et al metal pushbutton and found a rubber refrigerator wall stop that mimics the button cap look. Decided to shorten the hose 4" to eliminate the crush damage on the hose.

Dave


Post# 94498 , Reply# 5   3/25/2010 at 21:31 (3,490 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Green one and this is what the tri-caster cradle looks like. I kjeep meaning to have the metal shop at work fabricate one for me.

Dave


Post# 94499 , Reply# 6   3/25/2010 at 21:32 (3,490 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
hose

I have the hose,dust brush and crevice tool,but nothing else.

Post# 94502 , Reply# 7   3/25/2010 at 21:43 (3,490 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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As for the Filter Queen, my Mom got her's from Grandma when we moved to our first house when I was 5 or 6, and I remember the shoebag caddy well. Long gone, of course.

Pete gave me this super Model 200A and I then found the 10 foot perfect sucking hose & wands and a few long neck accessories stashed in the parts bins. This beast pulls 81" !!!


Post# 94503 , Reply# 8   3/25/2010 at 21:44 (3,490 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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and snagged this shoebag caddy off Ebay.

Post# 94505 , Reply# 9   3/25/2010 at 21:51 (3,490 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        

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Nice Hans&Dave. The Hydro looks almost Fairfaxish. Was it a rebadge?

Post# 94507 , Reply# 10   3/25/2010 at 21:53 (3,490 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
model 200

Have you ever worked on that thing,it is a wonderful machine,but whoever designed it must have had interest in a screw factory LOL !! it was F Q s first canister and was made until 1949 when the 350 came out,there must be 500 screws in that motor housing,and the motor is more like a G E ,.

Post# 94508 , Reply# 11   3/25/2010 at 21:56 (3,490 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
Fairfax

As far as I know the Mcallister was first, but I cant say for sure,the Fairfax was Canadian built I do know that, and the powerheads are NOT interchangeable,they are slightly different in diameter.

Post# 94509 , Reply# 12   3/25/2010 at 21:59 (3,490 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Yes Hans, how does that go?

The Fairfax Power Dome and helmet handle are clearly the same stampings, tho the Fairfax dust bucket is twice as deep.

McAllister Bagless cloth cloth & leather filter, intake directional plate to aid cyclonic swirl and temporary Filter Queen caster base.


Post# 94511 , Reply# 13   3/25/2010 at 22:00 (3,490 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        

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Oh i see Thank you Hans. I wasnt to sure wich chicken came first, or if they were siblings and such. Very interesting.

Post# 94517 , Reply# 14   3/25/2010 at 22:07 (3,490 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
I was not clear Dave..

When I said powerhead I meant motor unit, the Fairfax motor wont fit on the McAllister dust pan, it is slightly larger, but there had to be some connection because the LOOK exactly the same.

Post# 94525 , Reply# 15   3/25/2010 at 22:23 (3,490 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Yes I did, hans tho I didn't need to. It was clean as a whistle inside the motor unit - a testament to Filter Queen's brilliant engineering. Rarely have I found a Filter Queen dusty inside the dome other than those run without a filter cone. At that, the motor pre-filter catches the rest or blows it & brush carbon out the exhaust, as I believe many owners of Filter Queens did actually use the exhaust accessories regularly. I remember Mom using the Hairdryer hood on Thursday nights with her hair in rags or rollers for Friday, Saturday and Sunday Church events, and the Mothball vaporizer for closets twice a year.

Here, Pete models the hairdryer while I vibrate myself into a fever pitch...yes, the entire hose length vibrates with a strong throbbing massage especially with 80+ inches rushing through it's diaphone valve.

So many of these massage Vibrators around one has to wonder how many Moms...and Dads...enjoyed it's therapeutic and relaxing/stimulating ministrations.


Post# 94529 , Reply# 16   3/25/2010 at 22:35 (3,490 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
Yeah!!!! I JUST WONDER!!

Wouldnt it be interesting to know just HOW some of those attachments were used LOL !! As for the FQ, In my humble opinion,it probably is the best overall in that they DO NOT BLOW DUST!!, like you said, you can take one apart 50 years old and unless some dummy ran it without a cone, it will be spotless, very quiet and powerful,but that first model is really way overbuilt,I would love to know who built the motor, they have been Lambs since 49 but that model 200 is something totally different.

Post# 94531 , Reply# 17   3/25/2010 at 23:26 (3,490 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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I heartily agree, Hans. In my opinion and experience the Filter Queen is so successful at what it is designed to do precisely because of the large deep bucket and smooth surfaced filter cone that touches bottom center, effectively placing a column in the center of the maelstrom, creating a cyclonic tornado ring that flings heavy dirt to the sides where it falls to the bottom but the speed of the vortex allows only the finest dust to cling to the extremely large surface area of the paper cone. When the vacuum is shut off and trundled off to the closet the vibration causes the majority of the fine dust to fall into the bucket bottom debris and stays there intermixed at next start-up.

It is this smooth filter paper surfaced 'turnip masher' cone shape that instigated the lawsuit against Lewyt for it's reinforced caged fuzzy mole-cloth cone shape on the Model 40 (that required a spring-loaded central plunger to dislodge the embedded dust, btw) and subsequently the Lewyt Model 44 lost the cone shape for a flattened caged cloth Dustalator filter similar to the McAllister, and later the flat paper disc-ed Fairfax and other bucket vacuums - as I refer to them. This is also perhaps why Lewyt quickly moved to a paper dust bag inserted around the inlet - because it was no longer as effective as a bagless vacuum with nothing more than a big open bucket fully clouded with debris under power. In such an open chamber powder, dust and debris mingle together and form a central dustball drawn toward the fans rather than being flung to the sides a la FQ.

The Watermagic and Rainbow employ this same cyclonic principal but use water to form a whirlpool of liquid that captures all the dirt that is flung outward. When a rainbow is running imagine the whirlpool vortex passively formed when the plug is pulled in a full sink. Now imagine this whirlpool at high speed accelerated by the motor and fan suction airflow. "Mud will be flung tonight"

Filter Queens DO NOT CLOG (under normal household cleaning circumstances) until the bucket is filled to capacity packed around the cone, when there is nowhere for the powder to fall.

Dave


Post# 94631 , Reply# 18   3/27/2010 at 05:17 (3,488 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
Kenkart

Can I come for a vist to your house to see all your beautiful vacuums?

Post# 94634 , Reply# 19   3/27/2010 at 06:20 (3,488 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

FILTER QUEENS Do not clog under normal use-the one I bought from a yard sale was one of the most CLOGGED vacuums I dealt with-probably why it was being sold.Its a nice vacuum.I think owner-user abuse for it.There was no cone in the machine.It was PACKED with Christmas tree needles.Same with the hose and powernozzle.The motor filter under the conegard was clogged-I had to replace it.And to top it off there was a package of filter cones and motor filters with the machine when I bought it!And vacuum techs use these machines to clean out vacuums brought into them for service-knew of two vac shops that used some old filter queen to clean out customer machines.Both emptied the machine daily and replaced its cone.

Post# 94640 , Reply# 20   3/27/2010 at 08:17 (3,488 days old) by petek (Ontario)        
See what happens when you do drugs

I thought that picture had been destroyed LOL



Post# 94642 , Reply# 21   3/27/2010 at 08:33 (3,488 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
See what happens when you do drugs

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