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Clubwide Long-Term Vacuum Test (I'm using a Singer)
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Post# 72227   6/14/2009 at 22:43 (5,429 days old) by tristar ()        

So Rob's thread about his month-long trial with his new Oreck gave me an idea today....

Call me nuts........but why don't as many of us as possible use a single vacuum for 2 weeks and compare what we get out of our carpets? It'll be hard for me personally since I tend to use different vacuums all the time, but I've settled for one...

The Singer Twin-Fan. I don't know why I decided on this one, but it seems like the one to pick. Maybe because I just got it Friday....who knows. I may hate it at the end of the month, but I've got it fitted with a new F&G bag and it's ready to go.

Let's say use it until the last day of this month. On June 30, cut the bag open after you vacuum one last time and let's see what all you got!




Post# 72228 , Reply# 1   6/14/2009 at 22:44 (5,429 days old) by tristar ()        
Somehow my picture got chunked....

Let's try the picture again.....

Post# 72229 , Reply# 2   6/14/2009 at 22:49 (5,429 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Count me in...I'll start tomorrow. I'll let you know which cleaner I pick!

Post# 72230 , Reply# 3   6/14/2009 at 22:59 (5,429 days old) by vintageroyal611 ()        

Me too! I think I'll use the Hoover Concept II Electronic on the main floor and the Hoover Concept I upstairs. I'll let you all know!

Post# 72233 , Reply# 4   6/14/2009 at 23:41 (5,429 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)        

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I'm going to use my Heritage I just finished cleaning up.

Post# 72239 , Reply# 5   6/15/2009 at 03:42 (5,428 days old) by joe22 ()        

this is a great idea, now to choose a vac.

Post# 72240 , Reply# 6   6/15/2009 at 04:21 (5,428 days old) by xraytech ()        

I think I will use the Vita Vac

Post# 72260 , Reply# 7   6/15/2009 at 09:58 (5,428 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        

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I will use my Royal It finally arrived...

Post# 72261 , Reply# 8   6/15/2009 at 11:41 (5,428 days old) by kirbfan94 ()        

i'll use my legend II!

Post# 72262 , Reply# 9   6/15/2009 at 11:51 (5,428 days old) by kirbfan94 ()        

i changed my mind, im gonna use my tradition.
sorry...


Post# 72263 , Reply# 10   6/15/2009 at 12:04 (5,428 days old) by vibragroomer ()        
Basis for comparison

Tristar, did you intend for us to compare our results with each other or with a different test vacuum that we own? I was thinking of using my Hoover Celebrity with the Quadraflex nozzle for two weeks and then compare it with my Sanitaire 677D after two weeks of use.

Post# 72277 , Reply# 11   6/15/2009 at 15:18 (5,428 days old) by tristar ()        
Basis for Comparison...

Sure....why not? I use a Sanitaire S670 as my daily driver, so when I'm done with the Singer, I'll make a pass with it. I'll post the results of both.

Hopefully the results won't be as inflammatory as when I did the Sanitaire vs. Kirby thread!


Post# 72281 , Reply# 12   6/15/2009 at 15:42 (5,428 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
I've decided...

...I'll use my Vax VX1. Started today!





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Post# 72284 , Reply# 13   6/15/2009 at 16:03 (5,428 days old) by airway88 ()        

What are your views on Vax? Does that one have a BR? You seem to only be using it for hard floors.

Post# 72287 , Reply# 14   6/15/2009 at 16:22 (5,428 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

Wow, Eric, do you realize what you are asking us to do? I use multiple vacuums daily... I used Dyson and Oreck yesterday and Hoover Convertible and Royal all metal the day before. It will take an extreme amount of self control to only use one machine. I guess you aren't asking us to do anything you aren't willing to do yourself LOL

That Singer you have is the kind we had when I was growing up. I took it for granted back then, but I think if I found one, I'd buy it! What kind of belts do they take?

I guess I'm in, but I want someone else to pick. Should I use my Miele Plus canister or my Dirt Devil Broom Vac upright? Those are my two faves for now and I know I have enough bags for each of them to do this experiment and still have plenty left over. So, someone pick for me... which one should I use?

Of course the results should vary greatly. We all have different conditions. I have a small 1 bedroom apartment with flat carpet and a cat... I bet someone with a 3 story houes and 2 black labs would get more dirt with a push sweeper than me with a Kirby.

I'm looking forward to seeing the results!


Post# 72288 , Reply# 15   6/15/2009 at 16:25 (5,428 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        

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It has a BR, I wish I had got one when Big Lots had them.

Post# 72289 , Reply# 16   6/15/2009 at 16:28 (5,428 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        
Bobby

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I think you should use the Miele =)

Post# 72290 , Reply# 17   6/15/2009 at 16:33 (5,428 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Ryan, of course the Vax has a brush-roll. It's designed to be used on both carpets AND hard floors, hence Vax including a brush-roll on/off switch in the design, and rollers at the front of the soleplate.

And yes, well-observed, in that video, I am cleaning laminate flooring. I'm not 'only' using it for that purpose, but for the sake of the video, I was demonstrating the performance of the Vax on laminate. This experiment is supposed to last two weeks, and today, that was my cleaning task. The Vax met it admirably.

It also happens to have one of the most effective edge-cleaning systems I've seen on almost any cleaner. And as with all the best designs, it's shockingly simple: two curved bars at each end of the soleplate, which force the end bristles out either side of the nozzle as they rotate. When the nozzle is against the carpet, they 'lash' out horizontally, grabbing any litter down at the edge of the skirting board, etc, and pulling it into the airstream.

Simple but brilliant!


Post# 72293 , Reply# 18   6/15/2009 at 16:55 (5,428 days old) by tristar ()        
Bobby...

I second the Miele recommendation. While the BroomVac is a fun cleaner (I had 3 growing up!) they're not all that effective as a sole vacuum, so the Miele would definitely be a better pick IMHO.

It's hard to do this myself because I tend to use a different vacuum every day. I tend to use my vintage Hoovers from time to time too, but none of them have bearings right now, so I can't! It's torture knowing the bearings are in the mail but not here yet...

I swear....had the bearing arrived before I got this insane idea, I'd have chosen the Hoover 28 to do my test with!


Post# 72297 , Reply# 19   6/15/2009 at 17:23 (5,428 days old) by airway88 ()        
tristar

????????????

why do none of your hoovers have bearings? Where did they go?


Post# 72307 , Reply# 20   6/15/2009 at 20:29 (5,428 days old) by tristar ()        
Hoover Bearings

I sent them off to a friend who runs a vacuum shop to be professionally regreased. I don't have anyone I know of down here who has a grease gun with the proper fittings to pump grease where they so desperately need it.

I can't find the bearing plates I need anymore either, so I soaked the old ones in solvent to get all the old YUCKY, CRUDDY grease out and sent them off to become happy once more...


Post# 72316 , Reply# 21   6/15/2009 at 21:36 (5,428 days old) by vibragroomer ()        
Straight Suction Comparo

It would be interesting to test my Tristar CXL w/ Power Nozzle (VG I brushroll) with my Compact Electra straight suction vacuum. Maybe that's what I'll do! Using the Compact rug nozzle will provide quite the workout too!

Post# 72330 , Reply# 22   6/15/2009 at 23:44 (5,428 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

Popped a new bag in the Miele for the test.

We had that same Vax here but it was rebadged as a Bosch first then Dirt Devil. I was kicked out of best buy for playing with their floor model! I wonder how all the vacuums had dirt in them if customers weren't supposed to play with them!

Vibragroomer, I was also wondering what would happen if we spent a while using straight suction only and then tried a brushroll vacuum at the end of the test period.


Post# 72332 , Reply# 23   6/16/2009 at 00:01 (5,428 days old) by filterqueen83 ()        
kicked out

of best buy!. I would have lost my mind. I spend more money at that damn place. I wish you would have told me sooner. I have had it out with them on more than one occassion. I was going to buy a whole new stereo system and all for the house. Were talking indoor and outdoor. I could not get anyone to help so left and went to circuit city and called them when I was done shopping and thanked them for the better buy. I did not care I was looking for ease of purchase.

Post# 72337 , Reply# 24   6/16/2009 at 02:13 (5,427 days old) by swingette ()        

i saw a perfect condition bagged version of the model "vintagehoover" showed, branded "Siemens", have regretted not getting it ever since!

Post# 72341 , Reply# 25   6/16/2009 at 06:35 (5,427 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        
I remember Now

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The one Big Lots had was a Bosch,I can't remember who had the Siemens,Walmart & Best Buy had the DD and sears had the two Vax versions.I was tempted to buy one of them but they were Bagless, I dont like bagless much so I wouldn't spend that much on one.The only Bagless I spent money on was the lift-off and it was a decnt vacuum for a bagless but it still wasn't worth the 220.00 I spent.

Post# 72345 , Reply# 26   6/16/2009 at 08:09 (5,427 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Vax VX1 - Day 2





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Post# 72354 , Reply# 27   6/16/2009 at 11:04 (5,427 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

Jack, you did a good job with that video! The machine looks much sharper in black an silver than it does in red as it was over here (the dirt devil brand anyway... the Bosch came in two colors but I forgot what they were).

I used my Miele for the first day of the test. I forgot how powerful that thing is. It was acutally hard to push with a new bag... and it made my medium pile area rug stand a full attention... something even the Hoover Concept doesn't do. I peeked in the bag with a flashlight after the first use and was amazed at the junk in it considering that I'd just used the Oreck and Dyson the day before. Maybe I should have used the Sanitaire and Kirby the day before and wouldn't have seen so much in the Miele.

I'm thinking of following up with a bagless right after I finish using the Miele on the last day of the test to see what it left behind. Either the Dyson DC14 upright or the Kenmore Iridium canister (LG made)... probably the Kenmore so I can compare canisters to canisters.



Post# 72386 , Reply# 28   6/16/2009 at 21:59 (5,427 days old) by tristar ()        
I'll bite.....

I did a video too......basically to give a scope of what I'm cleaning and how it's being done.

My videography skills suck compared to Jack's.....





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Post# 72388 , Reply# 29   6/16/2009 at 22:49 (5,427 days old) by kirbfan94 ()        

yours are alot better then some though...

Post# 72392 , Reply# 30   6/17/2009 at 01:59 (5,426 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)        
Videos

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Nice videos! These are professional compared to some of the jigglers you see on YouTube. Some of them make you dizzy watching! :-)

Post# 72400 , Reply# 31   6/17/2009 at 06:41 (5,426 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

I'm glad you posted that... I haven't seen one of those in action since the early 90's. I remember my parents vacuuming up carpet powder with it and always complaining that it was eating belts. I loved how high the back of it got when the height was lowered all the way. I know they also made another one similar to this one but with a larger "shield" at the handle yoke... maybe to house a retractable cord set up. Another aunt also had a black and red Singer upright with a huge two speed rocker switch on the front of the motor housing. And, wasn't there one with a fold down handle as well?

Post# 72460 , Reply# 32   6/18/2009 at 11:15 (5,425 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

I had my boyfriend take a picture of me and Mr. Miele. I think he's jealous of our relationship! Here's my only soldier in the war on dirt for the duration of this test period. Man I need to get a real camera, it sucks having the cell phone be my only camera!



Post# 72462 , Reply# 33   6/18/2009 at 12:05 (5,425 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        

I have been using my Electrolux prolux and will continue till the end of the month.

Post# 72466 , Reply# 34   6/18/2009 at 13:25 (5,425 days old) by swiveltop (Galveston, TX)        

I used my G3 the other day and the bag was partially full (about 3 or 4 uses)so I tossed it out, Yesterday I needed a vac with a hose and the Sharp was handy so I put a new bag in so I'll use it the rest of the month,I never use the same machine that often, I only use my Bissel bagless to vacuum up kitty litter so I can empty it each time, so that won't be included in the Sharp's bag, I can't stand the thought of the litter sitting in any of my machines.

Post# 72653 , Reply# 35   6/21/2009 at 23:20 (5,422 days old) by tristar ()        

How's everyone doing so far? Surviving the single vacuum restriction? I'm not doing so well......I want to use the Conquest SOOOOOOOOOOO BAD! I just have to survive 8 more days........ I just keep telling myself "One more week......you can make it!"

Post# 72654 , Reply# 36   6/21/2009 at 23:42 (5,422 days old) by xraytech ()        

I have been surviving using only one vac, it helps that I am in the midst of relocating my collection so they are all packed in my trunk

Post# 72655 , Reply# 37   6/22/2009 at 00:16 (5,421 days old) by retardturtle ()        

well tristar...ive been useing my pansc-589...with the exception of yesterday when my wife had vacuumed abt half the house with [sc684] before remembering our project.[ugh].but up until then its been the 589 all the long hard way...not sure if this will impact the results...we have about a 1000sqft twn house all carpet and just us 2.but its klling me to see the fleet at rest. so i feel your pain...

Post# 72656 , Reply# 38   6/22/2009 at 00:25 (5,421 days old) by retardturtle ()        

tristar..meant to say i have a 1000sqft of carpet in our house..the rest is vinyl and tile....sorry

Post# 72736 , Reply# 39   6/22/2009 at 16:05 (5,421 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        
Well

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Im having a heck of a time trying to only use one vacuum lol. The royal that im using had a broken speed selector wich I knew but figured It would do untill I got one, but it cuts out so Im going to have to get one sooon.I have to tap on it to get it going again. The bag is also filling quickly only 7 more days to go though.
Kenny


Post# 73219 , Reply# 40   6/25/2009 at 23:09 (5,418 days old) by tristar ()        

Man.......it's been 11 days and I'm about to lose it! I'm just not a one-vacuum kind of guy.....

Anyone else for calling it quits on Saturday? I have too many new and spiffy machines that are BEGGING to be used to make it all the way until next Tuesday!


Post# 73221 , Reply# 41   6/25/2009 at 23:11 (5,418 days old) by vintageroyal611 ()        

Saturday works for me. My Concept bag is REALLY full and I doubt it'll make it to Tuesday.

Post# 73223 , Reply# 42   6/25/2009 at 23:18 (5,418 days old) by tristar ()        
Full bags...

Yeah, I just finished vacuuming with the Singer and that bag is stuffed! It's not full yet, but it's pretty clogged up! It's puffing up pretty hard.....admittedly I'd normally have changed the bag by now...

Post# 73330 , Reply# 43   6/26/2009 at 21:08 (5,417 days old) by tristar ()        
Crap!

I had several people through today and had lots of grass, grit, and other nasty stuff tracked in by the front door. While vacuuming, apparently a little stick went through the bag......damn. No more F&G bags in my stash either....so I'm wrapping up. I'll have pix in a bit....including the stupid hole.

Post# 73343 , Reply# 44   6/26/2009 at 22:40 (5,417 days old) by tristar ()        
So.......Here's what ended my test early

A little twig shot through the bag and left this hole. It's just behind where the filltube comes up and empties into the bag. I've had this same thing happen in the Sanitaire before with a small nail. Makes you wonder why they don't put some sort of plastic or felt behind that exhaust section! I don't have any F&G bags left in my stash, so I figured it was just as good of a time to call it quits anyway. I'm dying to use another vacuum. My ears and my dog can't take the Singer anymore!



Post# 73344 , Reply# 45   6/26/2009 at 22:42 (5,417 days old) by tristar ()        
Singer Bag Results

So here's the results of the Singer bag. Having used the machine for almost two weeks daily, and for cleaning up after each and every vacuum video I've made. Surprisingly the bag didn't seem to leak any dust. The Vinyl bag was clean and the outside of the bag was completely free of dust! Guess the Arm & Hammer F&G bags actually filter quite well! They just don't stand up well to sticks.....



Post# 73345 , Reply# 46   6/26/2009 at 22:44 (5,417 days old) by tristar ()        
Fuzz...

The Singer actually got up quite a lot of carpet fuzz. It seems to do a decent job fluffing the nap, and it picked up a lot of fur from Sophie shedding!

Now let's push the fluff aside and get a look at the DIRT it picked up shall we?



Post# 73347 , Reply# 47   6/26/2009 at 22:47 (5,417 days old) by tristar ()        
The Chaser...

So, like was suggested when this event got kicked off, I chased the Singer with another vacuum.

I got a Dyson DC17 Animal on Tuesday, and I haven't used it on the house yet. I figured this was the PERFECT time to give it the first run in the house!

Well before I post the results of what it picked up, I have to say.......it does an excellent job of bringing up the pile of this carpet! It's very thick cut-pile carpet and none of my other vacuums really seem to bring it up all that well. The section between my room and the front door runs behind my couch and it's constantly matted down. The Sanitaire is the only other vacuum I've got that even tries to bring it up.

Check out what the Dyson did! Who needs a Pile Lifter? I swear.....the pile hasn't stood up and taken footprints like that since it was new! You can see where both I and Sophie walked and left footprints. The picture doesn't do it enough justice...



Post# 73348 , Reply# 48   6/26/2009 at 22:48 (5,417 days old) by tristar ()        
Dyson Results

Now this is impressive. I was NOT expecting a Dyson of all vacuums to really pick up all that much. I really got the vacuum because I thought it was pretty and I wanted to see what all the hype was about.....

Well it seems to do a good job!



Post# 73349 , Reply# 49   6/26/2009 at 22:50 (5,417 days old) by tristar ()        
Dust, fluff, grit...

Although the pictures are misleading, the Dyson got in one usage ALMOST as much as the Singer got in 2 weeks! I wouldn't have called a result like that at all. The type of dirt it pulled up is the kind of stuff that I'd have expected the Sanitaire to pull up.....not a Dyson....

Check out this next picture for a sense of scale....I've put the large kitchen shears on the parchment between the fluff ball and the dirt pile. If you want a better sense of scale, check out the pile size compared to the burner in the rear. Then scroll up and check out the Singer's pile compared to the same burner.



Post# 73350 , Reply# 50   6/26/2009 at 22:51 (5,417 days old) by tristar ()        
To make things interesting...

And to make up for not having used any other machines other than a boring Singer for 2 weeks, I decided to chase the Dyson with the Royal Tank...



Post# 73351 , Reply# 51   6/26/2009 at 22:53 (5,417 days old) by tristar ()        
As you can see...

It didn't get anywhere NEAR what I thought it would. Especially chasing a Dyson! I really expected more to be in the bag than it picked up. Particularly after the Dyson fluffed the carpet so well. I'm guessing thats where the fluff came from.

Other than fine dust to discolor the bag, it didn't really pick up all that much. This final picture shows it.

This was a fun test! If I ever do it again, I'm using a different machine for a daily-driver though......that Singer got old fast!



Post# 73393 , Reply# 52   6/27/2009 at 12:29 (5,416 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

I just finished my test but I'll respond to yours before posting my pics.

Firstly, I too am glad to be done with the test early. I got tired of fooling with the cord and hose of a canister and dragging the old ball and chain around. I really missed my ballooning bag and self propelled uprights!

Eric, the Singer seems to have done well. I'm surprised the Dyson got that much up behind it. I know a lot of people talk badly of Dysons but I rather like them in spite of the fact that they are a modern, plastic, and bagless contraption.

The test was a good idea (though I may not touch a canister for 6 months!) and I can't want to see the results of the other participants.


Post# 73395 , Reply# 53   6/27/2009 at 12:37 (5,416 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
My Miele results

Here's the cut open bag.

I took out the cat hair so you can see the fine dirt and sand still in the bag. It may not look like a lot of dirt, but I have a small one bedroom apartment with very flat carpet. That amount of dirt in two weeks is impressive! I didn't even know I made that much! I took the picture on the kitchen floor because the light is best there... and you need the best light possible when the cell phone is your only digital camera. Of course I have a birthday in September... maybe I can give a subtle hint to boyfriend that digital cameras are great gifts LOL


Post# 73396 , Reply# 54   6/27/2009 at 12:43 (5,416 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
Dyson results

I decided to follow up with my Dyson because it is easier to compare results with a bagless. I have the DC14 with the silly brushroll and terrible clutch system. I still like it even though it is my least favorite Dyson model. I was surprised at the amount of dirt it got because I had literally JUST finished using the Miele on full power. While the Miele has tremendous suction, the brushroll isn't very aggressive. It has soft bristles that do not really penetrate the carpet well. This shows that agitation really is necessary! Fine grit and dirt on the left side and hair on the right side. I didn't even do the bedroom with the Dyson follow up, that is just from the living an dining area so that says a lot!

Post# 73397 , Reply# 55   6/27/2009 at 12:46 (5,416 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        


and of course just because he was present and curious what I was doing cutting a vacuum bag open on the kitchen floor, the guy who is responsible for most of the dirt, Jasper.

Post# 73399 , Reply# 56   6/27/2009 at 13:38 (5,416 days old) by vintageroyal611 ()        

Well, I just finished the test myself. I'm REALLY tired of lugging that big, heavy Concept 2 up and down the stairs. I vacuumed the house 1 last time, then I took the bag outside, cut it open, and THIS is what I found.

Post# 73400 , Reply# 57   6/27/2009 at 13:39 (5,416 days old) by vintageroyal611 ()        

First, the full bag

Post# 73401 , Reply# 58   6/27/2009 at 13:40 (5,416 days old) by vintageroyal611 ()        

and second, what was IN the bag

Post# 73402 , Reply# 59   6/27/2009 at 13:44 (5,416 days old) by vintageroyal611 ()        

Just to clarify, that bag was brand new at the start of this test. What you see in that bag came from a week and a half of regular vacuuming. I NEVER thought I'd say this, but, after schlepping that Concept 2 up and down the stairs everyday for a week and a half, I need an Oreck 'cause my back is killing me!

Post# 73403 , Reply# 60   6/27/2009 at 14:18 (5,416 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        
Ill post mine later or tomarrow

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when the camera comes back. I too need a new one,so ive been using Moms. I think I will fallow with the Hoover shabby in bagless mode. Its the better of the two bagless i have.

Post# 73415 , Reply# 61   6/27/2009 at 16:44 (5,416 days old) by vibragroomer ()        
Divorce Averted!!!

OK! This test almost caused a divorce in my house. My wife prefers to vacuum with her Sanitaire 677D. I, however, prefer my Tristar CXL that I bought at Goodwill last year for $10. She didn't think the Tristar would clean that well. But I put a VGI brushroll on it that I got from a brand new Kent (Eureka) power nozzle that I also bought for $10 somewhere (I don't remember where now). That price alone was worth it for the brushroll. And it's brand new! So I had to agree to do all the vacuuming for this two week test. I put a brand new bag in her Sanitaire at the beginning of the test period and checked it every day to make sure she wasn't trying to sabotage the results when I was at work! LOL! So the results follow.

Post# 73416 , Reply# 62   6/27/2009 at 16:47 (5,416 days old) by vibragroomer ()        
Tristar CXL with VGI Brushroll

I used a genuine Tristar bag. This is the result of two weeks of vacuuming with two dogs, and four kids and their friends in and out of the house. The bag was completely full. The photo really doesn't do justice to the actual contents. It was packed full!!!!

Post# 73417 , Reply# 63   6/27/2009 at 16:54 (5,416 days old) by vibragroomer ()        
Sanitaire 677D with VGI Brushroll

I debated which vacuum to follow up with. My Filter Queen? or My Hoover Celebrity with the Quadraflex brushroll. Or . . . But alas, I chose my wife's Sanitaire with the VGI brushroll. It's the same brushroll in my Tristar, so I thought that would be an interesting comparison. I was surprised at the amount of hair, dirt, and grit that was still left in the carpet. The Tristar did an excellent job. Even my wife admitted it! But the Sanitaire is definitely a deep cleaner. Again, the photo doesn't really do justice to what actually came out of the carpet.

Post# 73424 , Reply# 64   6/27/2009 at 17:39 (5,416 days old) by retardturtle ()        

ive also learned that nothing compares to a sanitaire comm...it deep cleans...plain and simple....have you tried both the vg1 and the vg2 rollers...if so then who wins and why is it your favorite.....ive read where eureka said it was by far their best broll [vg1]...but nothing better than user input.

Post# 73430 , Reply# 65   6/27/2009 at 18:11 (5,416 days old) by vibragroomer ()        
VGI vs. VGII

I've heard that the VGI design helps to produce better airflow, but I certainly can't verify that. I do have an Air Storm vacuum that I put a Tristar power nozzle on. That PN does have the VGII brushroll that I took from an old Eureka PN. I recently put new brush strips in it so maybe I'll have to do a test of the two different brushrolls on my Tristar CXL. That's what I'll do. I'll do a one week test with each brushroll and post the results. I'll use the Tristar CXL only in the test since the Air Storm has a more powerful motor.

Post# 73434 , Reply# 66   6/27/2009 at 19:25 (5,416 days old) by retardturtle ()        
vibragroomer

great idea..cant wait to see and hear results .i want a vg1 but not gonna pay 40$ for it...so im keeping an eye out for it at the shop....but they toss every dam thing in the trash....so its a crapshoot till paydirt..hard to hit the jackpot when you only wrk a cpl days a week....but i have no shame in a dumpster dive....i assure you....as long as its vac related.

Post# 73449 , Reply# 67   6/27/2009 at 22:28 (5,416 days old) by kirbfan94 ()        

So here is what mt tradition got out orf my carpet.
I used my legend II bag setup, and the tradition only has a 2-row brushroll with soft brisstles. BUT i think it did a pretty good job.


Post# 73460 , Reply# 68   6/27/2009 at 23:11 (5,416 days old) by xraytech ()        

Interesting to see everyone's results. I will have to post my results in 2 or 3 days, I dtarted a day late and with work it will take until Monday before I have a chance to take pics, I am with Bobby it will be quite some time before I use a canister again, I am tired of pulling the Air-Way behind me, I cant wait to get back to my favorite daily driver, the Concept One.

Post# 74285 , Reply# 69   7/3/2009 at 13:08 (5,410 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        
Sorry 6 days late,10 dollars short lol.

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But here are my results,(the poor Royal) the last time I vacuumed with this vacuum wasv Friday, I intended to vacuum on saturday 1 last time,then go over with my bagless but the hose was full of people. Sorry about the poor quality too. I will get a new camera soon I hope.

Post# 74286 , Reply# 70   7/3/2009 at 13:11 (5,410 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        
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I was surprised it didn't loose much suction. Mabe because there wasnt alot of fine powder. I don't use carpet fresh often because of the dog and cat.


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