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Royal vs. Kirby |
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Post# 68270 , Reply# 1   5/2/2009 at 18:41 (5,473 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)   |   | |
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Post# 68271 , Reply# 2   5/2/2009 at 18:58 (5,473 days old) by animasinsulin ()   |   | |
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My new Royal Everlast has a steel fan. WAY too much suction, but I love it.....Bill in Az.... |
Post# 68276 , Reply# 4   5/2/2009 at 20:56 (5,473 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)   |   | |
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Andy, I was thinking that the new 10 amp Royals would probly be to much and to loud.I thought having a 6 amp motor was quite powerful and had kind of a nice sound to them like kiriby does, but like I said in the last post I only got to use one for like 10 seconds lol. I was 8 and we just got off our delayed flight from FLA and while my mom and grandmother were getting the bags I aske the janitor if I could try it lol. He thought it was so funny as did tired mom and gram. Ken. |
Post# 69829 , Reply# 10   5/19/2009 at 08:49 (5,456 days old) by andy02 ()   |   | |
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I have always liked royal, When i stay after school we use them, SOon to be replaced with household, Cause of funding and etc. but you know they won't hold up |
Post# 70075 , Reply# 13   5/22/2009 at 20:39 (5,453 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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I've got to chime in here and vote for Kirby. I started out working for the Kirby office in Dubuque, Iowa in 1974 selling the Classic Omega. What a machine! That led to extensive research on this one and I learned that both started out as non-electric machines. James B. Kirby introduced his "Domestic Cyclone" in 1905. Royal started out as a bacic upright pumper in 1906 and was outfitted with an electric motor a few years later. Did you know that it was James B. Kirby who is responsible for the Lamb motor and the Black & Decker power tools? All four, Black, Decker, Lamb and Jim Kirby designed his (Kirby's) first upright called "The Broomstick" in 1910. Personally I like the Kirby's of the 50's. |
Post# 70079 , Reply# 14   5/22/2009 at 21:10 (5,452 days old) by animasinsulin ()   |   | |
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I LOVE my 9 amp Royal Everlast, but it is WAY to powerful and loud!!!! |
Post# 236307 , Reply# 15   6/13/2013 at 09:11 (3,970 days old) by kirbyfan99 ()   |   | |
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just to clear things up, the newer kirby fans are Kevlar not lexan. the lexan fans are grey while the Kevlar fans are white (cream-white that is). |
Post# 236435 , Reply# 17   6/13/2013 at 19:55 (3,970 days old) by skippy (New York, NY)   |   | |
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I have to say I agree about newer Royals--they scream. I had one and it was like having an airplane taking off in the living room--had to get rid of it. Ultimate G quieter! |
Post# 236447 , Reply# 18   6/13/2013 at 21:06 (3,969 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Post# 260027 , Reply# 20   12/18/2013 at 14:07 (3,782 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Does anyone know why Kirby decided to switch from metal fans to Kevlar ones?
I think they must have had a very good reason to do this and it was most likely not done to reduce the cost of manufacture considering the high retail cost of the vacuum cleaner. Since Kirby is known for their research I assume the change was done to enhance performance in some way. If anyone out there who is or was affiliated with Kirby knows the answer to this question, I think there would be many on here who would like to know. |
Post# 260111 , Reply# 21   12/19/2013 at 03:47 (3,781 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Kirby plastic fan-think it may be do to NASA's design-the tapered blades.However-turbocharger fans have tapered blades,too-and they are metal.Would be intersting to see what the answer is. |
Post# 260537 , Reply# 22   12/23/2013 at 18:05 (3,777 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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I did some research on this and what I found is very interesting.
The fans that are installed in the newest Kirby's from the G5 through Sentria II are made from Amodel, NOT Kevlar as almost everyone on here has thought. For a while Kirby used Lexan, which was discontinued when the switch to superior Amodel was made in the G5. Amodel is widely used in the Aerospace industry so Kirby designed the new fan with the aid of NASA so that it would be the most durable and produce maximum airflow(CFM).Many folks on here, confused Lexan and Kevlar with Amodel. There were some problems with the Lexan fans after a few years of use. They would suffer stress fractures and would break apart if hit by any foreign object (not regular dirt). Amodel is a new type of polymer that is several times stronger than either Aluminum, which is used in the Royal metal upright vacuums, or Kevlar which was NEVER used in any Kirby vacuum. The Amodel fan is tougher than metal and believe it or not, will almost always outlast Lexan and metal fans. A few years ago, Kirby did a demonstration for some VCCC members during a tour of the factory where they used a Kirby vacuum with Amodel fan to suck up a bowlful of large nuts, bolts, marbles and pebbles. After disassembly, the fan had only a couple of very small nicks on it and deemed fully serviceable. The Kirby Sentria with it's higher speed motor, and NASA designed Amodel fan, produces more airflow (115 CFM) than any previous Kirby model. Here is a statement which you can lookup on the internet from Solvay Advanced Polymers who is the manufacturer of AMODEL: " About AMODEL Polyphthalamide-- With a heat deflection temperature of 536 degrees Fahrenheit (280 degrees Celsius) and continuous use temperature of 338 degrees Fahrenheit (170 degrees Celsius), AMODEL PPA retains its exceptional mechanical properties -- strength, stiffness, fatigue and creep resistance -- over a broad range and in high humidity environments. This versatile family of high-temperature nylons can give you the strength of aluminum, the stiffness of steel, and the impact and ductility of hard rubber --" I hope you all enjoyed the fruits of my research of AMODEL. -Stan |