Thread Number: 45431
/ Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
classic 1CR motor amps |
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Post# 470327 , Reply# 1   3/27/2024 at 06:12 by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Ken,
As far as I know, all Classic 1-CRs used the same field coil (103969) and armature (114969). The Classic 1-CRs which listed 5 amps had a serial number break between R100001 and R233000, while the usual 6 amp rating started from serial number R233001. These early builds also used the exact same fan case (120065), front axle (131656) and height adjuster (133056) as the Dual Sanitronic 50 and 80. Could you please upload the pictures of the 1-CR rating plates you describe? ~Ben |
Post# 470331 , Reply# 2   3/27/2024 at 11:43 by kenc184 (SF Bay)   |   | |
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Here you go, it is fuzzy but sure looks like a "4" to me.
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Post# 470332 , Reply# 3   3/27/2024 at 13:31 by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.)   |   | |
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All five of my lcr's are 6 amp. Are these 4amp motors 2-speed? I believe Heritages were rated 4.5 amps the the G models were 7 amp. Hope to learn something new today. |
Post# 470336 , Reply# 4   3/27/2024 at 20:52 by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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The classics have 6 amp motors. The pic u believe says for your mistaken. There's a number before the 4 and it's either a 5 or 6.
It doesn't load good but zooming in its a 5 or 6.
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Post# 470337 , Reply# 5   3/27/2024 at 22:29 by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 470339 , Reply# 6   3/27/2024 at 23:14 by kenc184 (SF Bay)   |   | |
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I'm sure you're right, but it looks like AMPS 4 to me. |
Post# 470354 , Reply# 8   3/28/2024 at 21:02 by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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No
562 and sanitronic 7 were the last 4 amp motor. The ds50 and every Kirby since us 2 speed. The ds 50-mid to late run of ds 80 were 2 speed GE motors. The mid run of the d80 kirby built there own motors that were very similar but different enough and patents were made for the new motor. The cr1 classic badge I'd the same on every classic. It's 6 amp motor. The housing was similar to ds 80s but the motor was beefed up and had a different field coil. It's not 4 amps. Look through pics of the classic plates and notice there all the same. |
Post# 470357 , Reply# 9   3/28/2024 at 21:20 by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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If ypu notice 1969 is on every plate and they all have the same 6 amp as well.
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Post# 470358 , Reply# 10   3/28/2024 at 22:14 by EvolutionClean1 (Nampa, Idaho)   |   | |
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Kirby NEVER used General Electric motors, in any of their models. Bison did, maybe that's what you're thinking of? |
Post# 470365 , Reply# 11   3/29/2024 at 10:52 by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 470367 , Reply# 12   3/29/2024 at 12:29 by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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It was either black and decker, lamb but someone made motors and kirby stopped the relationship. You can look that up and I guarantee patent numbers changed exactly like I explained. I might have got the mfgr wrong but the amps and dates you can take that to the bank.
Everyone is wrong sometimes. I'm wrong more than most it doesn't mean anyone's trying to offend you. You corrected me as I was wrong I have kirbys parts diagram from 505 to avalir. I stated 516 didn't have black carbon brush caps and I was wrong. I looked it up and wrong. |