Thread Number: 44382  /  Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
I got the new bissell powerforce bagged.
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Post# 461966   4/2/2023 at 16:46 (326 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        

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Its a pretty good machine and does the job. I like it's cleaning performance but the air it blows out can be a pain sometimes, throws papers off tables or refrigerator. But other than that I like it.

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Post# 461967 , Reply# 1   4/2/2023 at 16:48 (326 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        

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My original bissell powerforce bagged from 2002 next to the brand new powerforce bagged from 2022.

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Post# 461976 , Reply# 2   4/2/2023 at 22:06 (326 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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Wow great! I did too. I always wanted one again since buying a new one for a family member, and not buying one for myself. It's a great vacuum and one of the top budget vacuums you can get for $40.

Post# 461982 , Reply# 3   4/3/2023 at 04:50 (326 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
Here's both of them reviewed.

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Post# 462027 , Reply# 4   4/4/2023 at 02:37 (325 days old) by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.)        
Not surprised

The 2002 original has a 12 amp motor

The 2022 newer model has an 8 amp motor

I thought the motor sounded better on the older model

Does the older 2002 blow papers off the table too?

Post# 462028 , Reply# 5   4/4/2023 at 04:44 (325 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
The original

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Does not cause trouble with the exhaust.

Post# 462030 , Reply# 6   4/4/2023 at 08:41 (325 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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The original model was so popular and well made it's now sold as a Sanitaire. That's big jump for something that used to be a Walmart exclusive. It's $119 now with a steel handle but at some points you could find a bagged powerful for under $40 if Walmart was holding a sale. I also remember very slowly seeing Powerforces (bagged and bagless) taking over commercial locations while the traditional Sanitaires and Windsors were phased out. Not a decision I would make, but I have owned a bagged Powerforce and it was shockingly good given the price. Even the build quality.

Thanks for the video. I think this new machine will last a long time too. It might be one of the last bagged machines sold in a big box store.

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Post# 462033 , Reply# 7   4/4/2023 at 10:57 (325 days old) by whiteley03 (Tulsa, OK)        

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I always liked the design of these new Powerforces. Sharp and affordable!

Post# 462039 , Reply# 8   4/4/2023 at 14:36 (324 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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I had one of the earlier ones, black I think,10 years ago? Started life in my brother's store,then to me where I cleaned and checked it all okay,rehomed, and then again when that girl moved. Has to be on owner #4? Now, no issues. I didn't mind it, but didn't need either. Pretty solid.

Post# 462053 , Reply# 9   4/4/2023 at 22:13 (324 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)        

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Just saw it at our local Walmart tonight. This thread made me look to see if they had any.
I honestly didn't even know Walmart still carried any bagged vacuums.
I think they were priced at $58, and they had a few of them on the shelf.

Post# 462058 , Reply# 10   4/4/2023 at 23:03 (324 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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I have one I got at Goodwill last summer for $10 or so.

I really like them, the black and cobalt blue scheme is simple, yet sharp.

They are lightweight and not bulky like many modern uprights.

The blue Febreeze paper bags they come with filter well too.

Really nothing bad I can say about it, itís a simple lightweight vacuum that does what itís supposed to do at a low price.

Post# 462059 , Reply# 11   4/5/2023 at 04:46 (324 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
Don't use febreeze bags

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That's why my bissell plus 3553 lift off motor is bad from filtration. P

Post# 462068 , Reply# 12   4/5/2023 at 15:18 (323 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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Nothing wrong with Febreeze bags. It is a perfume packet stuck to the bottom of the bag.

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Post# 462070 , Reply# 13   4/5/2023 at 15:59 (323 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Personally, I don't like using Febreze bags. I've used them before, both in direct air and bypass vacuums. I like the scent when you put a fresh bag on but overtime as the bag fills up, not only the scent would go away eventually but also you'd get a mixture of other odors mixed in with the scent. Also, they filter horribly. So I stopped using them.

Post# 462074 , Reply# 14   4/5/2023 at 18:31 (323 days old) by vaclab (Pickerington, Ohio)        
The Febreze Bags Filter Exceptionally Well

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Near H10 levels in fact.

Febreze Bissell Type 7 Paper Bag Particle Test


Post# 462078 , Reply# 15   4/6/2023 at 00:21 (323 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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If you are using paper bags... they're going to leak.. You'll see some slight build up in the bag chamber...but you will not see this with HEPA bags...(see link) here's one of the reviews and I totally agree with this person.. paper bags just are nothing compared to HEPA bags...

I recently purchased a Bissell Power Force (model 1739) from Walmart and grabbed a 3 pack of the Febreze scented paper bags. By the time the first bag was full and ready for replacement, the inside and outside of my vacuum was covered in a very fine dust. I cleaned the vacuum with a damp rag and put in a new Febreze bag. After using the vacuum a couple more times, I had the same result, so I ordered these bags in hopes of solving my nasty dust problem. I replaced the paper bag with one of these cloth-like Clean Fairy bags after cleaning up the vacuum with a damp rag once again. It's been about a week of daily vacuum use, and the inside AND outside of my machine is still dust free, with no loss of suction! This tells me that these bags hold the fine dust particles INSIDE THE BAG where they belong instead of allowing it to escape into the air. I actually threw away the rest of my Febreze paper bags! I'll be buying these from now on -- as long as they're available, and NEVER going back to the mediocre paper vacuum bags. These are MUCH CHEAPER and MUCH BETTER QUALITY than the expensive brand name bags. Stop searching and just buy these if your vacuum uses Bissell style 7 bags. You won't be sorry!


Post# 462079 , Reply# 16   4/6/2023 at 00:24 (323 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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I think I screwed up the above link.. here it is


Post# 462112 , Reply# 17   4/7/2023 at 17:31 (321 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Well this thread just inspired me to get the 3522 yesterday. I spotted it along with the 1739 at my local thrift store but I passed on that one because I wasn't interested in it. It's got the headlight and performance indicator which I prefer. I also prefer using cloth bags, upgrading the washable post filter to a HEPA filter, and using genuine belts. They're not bad machines overall. I like how simplistic they are to use and take apart, I think they clean good, and how inexpensive they costed.

Post# 462144 , Reply# 18   4/8/2023 at 21:20 (320 days old) by vaclab (Pickerington, Ohio)        
Mark, The Fact Remains That The Febreze Bags

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Filter well for paper bags. The particle meter doesn't lie.

That being said, I ALWAYS RECOMMEND HEPA BAGS if available and have even custom made my own for those older machines wherein they were never made. I've had my 1739 since 2018 and I also have a few of the Clean Fairy Style 1/7 bags and they are fabulous! Your link obtains these cloth style bags at a great price to be sure, but if someone is in a hurry, the Febreze bags will work well in most TYPICAL vacuum environments.

Wanna know how I know? Soon after I posted the review of not only the 1739 but also the Febreze bags (this was YEARS ago of course), I was contacted by professional carpet cleaners saying how wonderful that vacuum/paper bag combo performed on their medium pile, TYPICAL residential dirt pickup regimen.

I saw that you said you used your 1739 DAILY, which is not typical. Also, you may be attempting to pickup significant amounts of fine dust, which would not be considered typical either.

For the AVERAGE user, the paper Febreze bags remains a great choice for those who haven't had the time to order (or don't know they exist) the Clean Fairy cloth bags, so your statement that the Febreze bags leak is patently misleading for the average once a week mixed dirt consumer.

I always have to filter through extreme examples to get to the truth...

Funny story: When I first obtained the 1739, it had a Febreze bag and the compartment was full of dust. Upon closer inspection, someone had installed the bag and ripped off the scent card thus tearing the bottom of the bag, hence the leak.


Post# 462147 , Reply# 19   4/9/2023 at 08:46 (320 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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Oh, I don't own one.. I just cut/pasted a review from Amazon. When I read this thread it made me wonder if HEPA bags were available for these...that's when I started reading amazon reviews...and when I read that review, that pretty much is what I experienced with any paper bag too. But I believe you...

I think part of the problem with some vacuums is the way the bags fit the collar (maybe too loosely) and it's not that the bags aren't filtering well...but the way they fit the collar... I had a Kenmore canister and it drove me crazy because no matter how good of a bag I would use, it would leak dust from the collar (not the bag)

Post# 462150 , Reply# 20   4/9/2023 at 13:10 (320 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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The bag leaking around the collar has been a problem ever since bags were invented. That's one reason why a proper bag will be a bear to get onto the tube, and why Kirby bags have an entire locking system to keep them strapped on, and why Electrolux puts a rubber gasket around the inside of the bag. It's just a fact of the matter. Same as when you have an old car the engine bay will get oily and dirty as you drive it, it's just a consequence of parts tolerances and use.

If one was bothered enough, one could take foam sheets, cut to fit the fill tube and the shape of the bag collar, put them between the vacuum chassis and the bag, and it should create enough of a seal to stop the blow-back.

Post# 462181 , Reply# 21   4/10/2023 at 14:35 (318 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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It's possible that maybe Febreze improved their bags better nowadays than the ones that I've used a while ago because they definitely leaked on me ALOT and they were fitted on correctly.

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