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Thread Number: 44359
/ Tag: Pre-1950 Vacuum Cleaners
Kirby 2C Armature Problem |
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| Post# 461748 , Reply# 2 3/25/2023 at 23:41 (186 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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| Post# 461756 , Reply# 4 3/26/2023 at 14:58 (185 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth) | ||
The armature got shot  | ||
Post# 461768 , Reply# 6 3/26/2023 at 18:35 (185 days old) by KirbyClassicIII  (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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| Post# 461769 , Reply# 7 3/26/2023 at 18:51 (185 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth) | ||
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| Post# 461771 , Reply# 8 3/26/2023 at 21:15 (185 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana) | ||
You are lucky to have two motor repair shops right there in Frederick. Might stop by and see if they can give the motor a look over and give an estimate if they can fix it.
Roberts Electric Motors, Inc. 4507 Metropolitan Ct Frederick, MD 21704 M & M Electric Motor Repair 205 Bucheimer Rd Frederick, MD 21701 Both of them have nearly 5 star reviews and reviewers mention they fixed their power tools motors, so I can presume that they take single job small motor repair. | ||
| Post# 461777 , Reply# 10 3/27/2023 at 10:31 (184 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH) | ||
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| Post# 461780 , Reply# 12 3/27/2023 at 13:08 (184 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
I highly doubt a local vacuum store is able to rewind motors. Most just replace the motor in any vac if it is bad. Tutorial videos are NOT a be all-end all, as Will said you need years of practice, the right tools, and the correct wire gauge. Doing this as a first try on such a rare and old motor you cannot get spares for will not end well and you may end up damaging the armature itself beyond the coils.
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| Post# 461783 , Reply# 14 3/27/2023 at 14:03 (184 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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| Post# 461790 , Reply# 15 3/27/2023 at 17:12 (184 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth) | ||
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| Post# 461796 , Reply# 17 3/27/2023 at 19:51 (184 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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1930 field coil off vacuette electric 1961 505-515 armature.
The armature is too big to fit in a 2c. I've gotten a kirby with weights or pieces added to the coil. They don't have to be rewound but I have seen more than a few have been fixed.
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| Post# 461817 , Reply# 20 3/28/2023 at 10:35 (183 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Liam, I agree with some of the other posters here - don't attempt to do your Kirby 2C armature rewinding job yourself. This is something that takes A LOT of training and practice to do, and not easily done by a amateur. If Bikerray is correct with how rare these early Kirby armatures are to find, this is something you will seriously regret if you do it wrong and ruin your Kirby motor.
What I would suggest you do is to contact The Kirby Company, and see if they even do this anymore themselves. Even if they don't, they may be able to point you in the right direction to a shop that does. If that doesn't work out, start contacting old-time vac shops that you know still carry parts for older machines - chances are, either they will know how to do it, or know of a company that does armature rewinding for small motors. | ||
| Post# 461834 , Reply# 21 3/28/2023 at 21:31 (183 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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| Post# 461854 , Reply# 24 3/29/2023 at 12:04 (182 days old) by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD) | ||
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side note Does anyone know if there is a place, a shop in the MD, VA, PA area that repairs and rewinds specifically small electric motors, like for old vacuum cleaners. I'm trying to do research and find ideas about where to go to get my Kirby 2C armature rewound. From Liam | ||
| Post# 461861 , Reply# 25 3/29/2023 at 14:37 (182 days old) by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.) | ||
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Hang in there Liam As more people from VL see this, odds get better you'll resolve this.If you find a place you can ship the armature to I'd insure it. Be sure to check the condition of your bearings and carbon brushes when you put it all back together. Call Kirby first for advise. | ||
| Post# 461874 , Reply# 26 3/30/2023 at 03:27 (181 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana) | ||
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Post# 461888 , Reply# 27 3/30/2023 at 14:09 (181 days old) by a007kirbyman (--->> Originally My Mom <<--- (now Wisconsin)) |
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| Post# 461892 , Reply# 28 3/30/2023 at 17:36 (181 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana) | ||
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Well that's weird because the reviews say otherwise. Also their own website says they do for both shops. They likely just did not want the business and did not want to make money ( a lot of companies are like this now ). | ||
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Post# 461894 , Reply# 29 3/30/2023 at 18:06 (181 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles) |
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There's was just a Kirby Model C on eBay, listed this morning. It was listed at *GASP* $750.00!! "Best Offer Accepted." CLICK HERE TO GO TO electrolux137's LINK on eBay | ||
| Post# 461895 , Reply# 30 3/30/2023 at 18:11 (181 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana) | ||
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| Post# 461901 , Reply# 31 3/31/2023 at 01:14 (181 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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Post# 462003 , Reply# 37 4/3/2023 at 12:30 by electrolux137 (Los Angeles) |
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| Post# 462015 , Reply# 38 4/3/2023 at 19:46 by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Liam | ||
| Post# 462019 , Reply# 39 4/3/2023 at 21:53 by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.) | ||
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Just do it! Please call Kirby, they don't bite. Amen. | ||
| Post# 462226 , Reply# 41 4/11/2023 at 20:49 by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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| Post# 462243 , Reply# 44 4/12/2023 at 12:16 by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Liam
Read reply 17 to this thread.
I'm finishing up my 505 with the armature pictured which fits 3c to 515 kirbys. The coil is from my vacuette electric which I am polishing up. The parts are for those vacuums. I was showing you that the 3c to 5165 armature and the vacuette thru 2c coil weren't compatible. | ||
| Post# 462263 , Reply# 46 4/12/2023 at 19:23 by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.) | ||
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Suggestion: CALL KIRBY CALL KIRBY CALL KIRBY CALL KIRBY CALL KIRBY or CALL KIRBY CALL KIRBY.... | ||
| Post# 462398 , Reply# 47 4/18/2023 at 17:42 by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD) | ||
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note Does Jim The VacMadMan have a spare Kirby 2C armature? If he does, that would be great. I need one badly. From Liam | ||
| Post# 462631 , Reply# 50 4/25/2023 at 13:17 by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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| Post# 462669 , Reply# 51 4/28/2023 at 01:49 by Vaclover (Freestate, Virginia, South Africa) | ||
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Swopped field coil connections maybe? I once had the same problem with a Model 508 that i opened up and cleaned. I swopped the connections of the brushes around and the motor was spinning the wrong way around. It also slowed down the motor. | ||
| Post# 462678 , Reply# 53 4/28/2023 at 11:20 by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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| Post# 462689 , Reply# 55 4/28/2023 at 15:07 by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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| Post# 462694 , Reply# 56 4/28/2023 at 17:17 by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Hoover300
I agree, yes sending the vacuum off to Kirby to be rebuilt would certainly be a option. But, Liam would still have to gather all the correct trim & parts to make it look factory original afterwards. Plus, since Kirby has recently started discontinuing certain electrical parts for the Classic/Heritage series Kirby's, the question remains how long will the rebuild department still be able to work on & rebuild these older Kirby's? I am actually surprised that Right Lane Industries hasn't scrapped it. It's definitelyonly a matter of time though :(
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| Post# 462695 , Reply# 57 4/28/2023 at 17:29 by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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| Post# 462700 , Reply# 58 4/28/2023 at 21:00 by bikerray (Middle Earth) | ||
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| Post# 462703 , Reply# 59 4/29/2023 at 00:30 by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana) | ||
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