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What's the American equivalent to Henry, popularity wise?
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Post# 455816   8/13/2022 at 17:17 by Ilovehoovers (England)        

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Over here just about every shop stocks Henry, and if they don't stock them then they stock Henry bags. Does the US have a machine similar in popularity? Picture of Henry attached below for those unfamiliar. They're just about everywhere over here :p

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Post# 455817 , Reply# 1   8/13/2022 at 17:37 by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Dunno

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It's probably a Bissell or some other really low end machine. I was going to guess it's the powerforce helix but I guess those are exclusive to Walmart.

Post# 455828 , Reply# 2   8/13/2022 at 21:34 by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Actually, the vacuum you see most often in stores, hotels, showrooms, residential buildings and even large places like airports here in North America is a red Sanitaire bagged upright. Up until a few years ago, Sanitaire was made by America's Eureka company which was owned by Swedish Electrolux from 1974 to 2004. So in those years, some 240v Sanitaire uprights were sold under the Electrolux name in Europe.

Post# 455830 , Reply# 3   8/14/2022 at 03:03 by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.)        
Henry's

I can't think of anything over here that is similar to Henry at the moment. We have the larger shop vacs and yard vacs that people don't usually buy to use indoors as a regular cleaner. They are larger and way to loud to use as such.

If there is something over here that resembles your Henry,I'm not aware, and it certainly wouldn't be anyway near as popular or as common as Henry is in Europe.

In the 50's and 60's and possibly 70's Eureka and a few other brands did have a model that would be in the same category as Henry, but not any more. I think Henry would do quite well over here if there's something more you can use Henry for compared to a typical canister vac like converting to a wet/dry vac. or something else that would stand out as a feature missing in others.

How many different versions of Henry are out there right now, 5?


Post# 455834 , Reply# 4   8/14/2022 at 05:35 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
Henry

Henry and his friends are available here but I'm not sure how popular they are. One thing that is missing is the ability to support an electric power nozzle, although with battery nozzles available now, Henry could clean carpets quite well.
Mike


Post# 455837 , Reply# 5   8/14/2022 at 07:07 by Ilovehoovers (England)        
afaik

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Nacecare (the people that supply Numatics in the Americas) have a couple machines with SEBO heads pre-fitted, similar to how the older Henrys had powerhead plugs on the back

Post# 455841 , Reply# 6   8/14/2022 at 08:04 by myvacsrock (USA)        

Be it red or blue, this is absolutely the USA equivalent in canister popularity.
As far as general vacuum popularity, not too sure.


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Post# 455989 , Reply# 7   8/18/2022 at 15:28 by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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@Ilovehoovers I would say in the home Market we see Miele C1/s2000 vacuum cleaner is quite a bit. In the commercial Market over here it's really not that uncommon to see Numatic. I've had multiple come in with them in the past few months alone.

With the launch of the 160 compact a few years ago we've seen numerous independent dealers now carrying them. The word is getting out I would expect in the next decade for them to become far more commonplace in the United States.






Post# 455998 , Reply# 8   8/18/2022 at 17:49 by Ilovehoovers (England)        
That's good to hear!

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I'd love to see Numatic more over there :)

Post# 456008 , Reply# 9   8/19/2022 at 14:16 by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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@Ilovehoovers More Henry Hoovers in the United States. 😁

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Post# 456009 , Reply# 10   8/19/2022 at 14:27 by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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I still think Numatic should rename their canister cleaners in each country they are sold….like Henri in France and maybe Hank in the USA!!! 😁

Or maybe use the most popular male and female names in each country….like Sven in Sweden and Laszlo in Hungary!!!!

😁


Post# 456088 , Reply# 11   8/21/2022 at 19:27 by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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Our other equivalent to your Henry in hotels, offices and the like, besides the Sanitaire, was the Royal all-metal upright, which hadn't been made since 2019.

~Ben


Post# 456158 , Reply# 12   8/24/2022 at 07:27 by Ilovehoovers (England)        
Oh yes!

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I forgot about the Royal. I believe Numatic made a copy of the Royal upright at one point in the '80s

Post# 456162 , Reply# 13   8/24/2022 at 15:45 by vacuumman (California)        
Numatic Royal

Do you know where I can find pictures of the Numatic Royal clone?

Post# 456179 , Reply# 14   8/25/2022 at 01:39 by Adam-aussie-vac ( Canberra, Australia )        
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Why not Henray?

Post# 456194 , Reply# 15   8/25/2022 at 15:37 by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

I don't think there is an EXACT equivalent to the Henry here. There are several reasons which I'll list below:
1) Americans (and perhaps Canadians too) have a strong preference for upright-style machines.
2) Despite the recent shifts, wall-to-wall carpeting remains popular in US houses.
3) Wet/Dry vacs such as Rigid and Shop-Vac have a stranglehold on the market for "industrial use" machines.
4) Shark dominates the US market with near-40% market share.

These types of machines wouldn't really cut it for most US houses and their purpose is met by other machines.


Post# 456238 , Reply# 16   8/27/2022 at 13:43 by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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@electromatik
My understanding in Canada that canisters and Central Vacuums the most popular type of vacuum cleaners. Especially with how much grit they have to vacuum off their hard surfaces in Winter uprights kind of take a second seat over there.
But if there's a study that says otherwise I'm always open to being wrong.



Where did you get the market share number of 40% on shark by the way if you could link that it would be awesome.


Post# 456294 , Reply# 17   8/28/2022 at 22:22 by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
@vacuumdevil

I did state "perhaps" cuz I wasn't sure. But just a quick search produced this as the first result:
(click "read more" near the top)
www.euromonitor.com/vacuu...

For Shark, I was reading about top-selling vacuums in the US market and came across this:
(read carefully because it mentions the US even though it is about the UK)
www.pymnts.com/news/retai...

It should be noted that these are based on "retail" scanned data. Many door-to-door sales are not recorded by a checkout scanner and thus are under-reported. Plus, many retail sales are "replacement" sales and most door-to-door buyers aren't replacing those machines very often due to their tendency to last longer.


Post# 456694 , Reply# 18   9/11/2022 at 17:43 by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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At this point in time I would say the Shark Navigator line. They're sold at basically every retailer and have been for probably a decade now. It seems like every other non-collector (so most people lol) I've met owns one. It's also hard to go to any Goodwill around here and not see one for sale. It would be cool to have some industry market share studies to look at. If you search for best selling vacuum on Amazon, the Navigator NV360 is their 9th best selling, and NV356E is the 15th. #1 is a Bissell stick vac.

I agree with @eurekaprince about the Sanitaires; they're everywhere commercially. Sebo/Windsor are probably second.

Not many people in the US use canisters. Again don't have market research insights but I bet Electrolux and Sears had the largest share of the market for most of the late 20th cenutry and early 2000s.


Post# 456695 , Reply# 19   9/11/2022 at 18:19 by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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Just did a closer read of the thread and saw @electromatik's link. So Shark is the market leader! Didn't see that before. Thanks for that info!

Post# 456756 , Reply# 20   9/14/2022 at 11:15 by armandjc (Boston )        
Canada/US upright and canister

@vacuumdevil

I have lived in both the US and Canada long term and I've found the Upright/Canister split to be the same. But I will say from my very unscientific findings, just general "living there" knowledge I'd say there is more central vacuums than the US. But definitely not the majority.



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