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Post# 450346   2/23/2022 at 23:52 (350 days old) by Mieles5380leo (Virginia)        

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Has anyone else seen or heard about the revival of Oreck but it’s called David now? Tom Oreck is the president and it’s the REAL Oreck not TTI garbage the the name Oreck is being produced under today. Funny enough the new David vacuums are actually rebadged Tacony lightweight uprights. Just a few years ago the Tacony lightweights were being compared against Orecks for their superior power but now they’re becoming Orecks. One of the models is even a rebadged Sebo/Windsor. They even have David stores many of which are actually old Oreck stores. How interesting all of this is!

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Post# 450347 , Reply# 1   2/23/2022 at 23:53 (350 days old) by Mieles5380leo (Virginia)        

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Here’s the YouTube video introducing their “everywhere” model which is the famous cordless Tacony lightweight.

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Post# 450354 , Reply# 2   2/24/2022 at 03:57 (350 days old) by beagledad (Florida)        

I'm no fan of TTI but I'm not sure how they have diminished the Oreck product line. As I understand it, the Oreck was always woefully underpowered. Some even referred to them as electric carpet sweepers. So this new "David" vacuum is quite the upgrade since it uses the much more powerful Tacony line. I guess if you can't beat them, join them. I just never understood the appeal of Oreck besides office cleaning use of the no pile commercial carpet. And way too loud.

Post# 450355 , Reply# 3   2/24/2022 at 07:15 (349 days old) by Mieles5380leo (Virginia)        

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The design of the new Orecks are decent but the diminishing factor TTI has brought to them is the quality has suffered a lot. Orecks now are made with cheaper, flimsier plastics and cheap wiring causing them to frequently have shorts, and on models like the elevate command, the handles have a common tendency to break off of the machine. I work at a vacuum store and we see the elevate series in for electrical problems a lot where the machine won’t start or it’ll run and then shut off and we have to repair things in the circuitry. Another thing is the fact TTI has worked on closing all of the Oreck stores. The manager who was a wonderful lady who ran the Oreck store near me only got a 2 week notice before the store shut down. She now works a different Oreck store on the other side of the state and when I visited her she told me Oreck is not what it used to be and told me about the handles breaking and such and that they actually put the conquer handle on the commands when they replace them because they are stronger. The appeal of Oreck for me and many was the lightweight vacuum that has a long warranty, a specific and specialized chain of dealers for it, and often has a service plan. So it was just an easy to use vacuum that had great support from an American based company. That’s another thing about TTI is they are Chinese based in Hong Kong and have switched to making a lot of Oreck products over there on China, removing jobs for Americans such as the ones who ran the over 400 Oreck stores there once were. TTI has also made the Oreck company less personal. There is no “face” to the company and like they used to say “if you don’t love it, you don’t keep it” now it just says “30 day trial”.

Post# 450359 , Reply# 4   2/24/2022 at 11:18 (349 days old) by robsmith1977 (Alexandria, Virginia)        
Heavy Duty?

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Wow - I worked in an Oreck store for a year a long time ago.... Super pushy sales job and the owners wouldn't take no for an answer. A lot of the stuff Oreck was selling back then (2004) was being made in China. I looked over the Heavy Duty upright (Sebo/Windsor) and for some strange reason it includes 3 extra belts?!? How odd is that since the Windsor uprights use a lifetime belt system. Must be some type of sales gimmick. LOL

Post# 450361 , Reply# 5   2/24/2022 at 15:07 (349 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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Let's hope this won't be another Garry incident.

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Post# 450364 , Reply# 6   2/24/2022 at 16:00 (349 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
We have those “David’s vacuums” stores here

The previous Oreck storefronts are now David’s vacuums. I just thought it was a local chain that took over the closed Oreck locations in the area. I live in the Dallas area. Anyway..,they run a lot of ads on tv in the morning during “Good Morning America”.

So I just did some research and it appears the David’s vacuum stores, which sell numerous brands including Miele and their own “David” brand of vacuums was started by David Oreck’s son Tom Oreck. I haven’t been in one of these stores…I wonder if they actually sell Orecks which of course are no longer made by them since they sold the company. Tom tried to buy the company back but that’s when TTI out bid him.

I don’t know…these aren’t my favorite vacuums but they sure are doing a lot of advertising here which is creating brand familiarity and they advertise that for a limited time they will clean and sanitize any make of vacuum cleaner for just $5. I’m sure in hopes of selling someone a new vacuum instead of just cleaning up their old machine.

Again, I just find Aerus…who’s corporate office is locally based to just be ignoring all this and slacking in the marketing area. With Eureka’s Electrolux out of the market now, they could really capitalize on the opportunity to gain back their customer share. I know they are pushing the air cleaning products much more but I don’t see any advertising for that product even though it is the only one that actually kills Covid. I don’t know, maybe they just want to stay small at this point. I get that…there are pains associated with growth. Well who knows. I don’t know who actually owns Aerus these days.

Well it will be interesting to see how these David vacuums last.

Post# 450365 , Reply# 7   2/24/2022 at 16:12 (349 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I'll bet TTI

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would love to buy/own more vac companies...then. they'd all be under their thumb. The quality would totally be at their discretion.

Post# 450367 , Reply# 8   2/24/2022 at 16:30 (349 days old) by Mieles5380leo (Virginia)        

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I am interested to see if they end up moving past the Tacony line of uprights and create their own designs again. Tom Oreck didn’t have a very good hold of the Oreck corporation to begin with because I believe he began running Oreck after David Oreck retired and led Oreck into bankruptcy which is when Oreck was offered for sale at a private auction in 2013 and the bid was won by TTI. I do find it fascinating that they have a T21 model with 21 free tune ups. A lot like another Oreck vacuum we know. They’re using a lot of their old tactics from Oreck like having specialized stores, lightweight uprights, long warranties and tune up plans, the “if you don’t love it, you don’t keep it” 30 day trial, and of course overpriced machines. You’ve got to remember the original Oreck was formed from a whirlpool design, David Oreck just knew how to market it well and turned it into his own. I have some hope that them starting again with another companies lightweight upright, they can then recreate the company they once had. I do find it interesting though that they have the Sebo/Windsor looking model. That doesn’t fit their lineup of lightweight American made uprights because it’s neither lightweight nor American.

Post# 450372 , Reply# 9   2/24/2022 at 19:11 (349 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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It's very cool to see the legacy continue. I wonder though, how come they haven't brought back some of their other vacuums they've offered before that are not TTI related? Like some of the commercial vacuums for example. Bissell started carrying them when Oreck was acquired by TTI and recolored/labeled them under the Big Green Commercial line. But now that Bissell owns Sanitaire, I don't think it's necessary to have other companies make those vacuums for Bissell.

Post# 450378 , Reply# 10   2/25/2022 at 09:06 (348 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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We sell both the Household as well as the Commercial Oreck. The Commercial line is exactly like the 'old' lineup. Good quality and made in America. The Elevate line, we only carry the entry model, and have never had any problems that aren't common like stretched belts and folks not getting the bag dock snaped.

I still have friends who work at Tacony, specifically in the ultra-lite division. So much trouble getting the China parts to make their machines, the company is forcing mandatory overtime on Fridays. Supply chain is a bitch when your parts all come on a slow boat from the Orient.

Post# 450383 , Reply# 11   2/25/2022 at 14:33 (348 days old) by robsmith1977 (Alexandria, Virginia)        
Who or what is TTI?

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Who is this TTI that I am reading about?

Post# 450387 , Reply# 12   2/25/2022 at 19:33 (348 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Techtronic Industries.

I also wonder why they didn't have TTI privately labeled their Orecks as David? That I think would sound better to me than having Tacony labeling their vacuums as David. Even though I personally like the Tacony made products better than Oreck.

Post# 450389 , Reply# 13   2/25/2022 at 21:04 (348 days old) by Mieles5380leo (Virginia)        

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You’re right I have seen the quality suffer recently with Tacony machines. Their parts do take quite a bit of time to come in from China now. I know they switched the motors in the Tacony lightweights from Amteks to some random Chinese motor. The Elevate Control (base model Oreck) uses the old one speed classic Oreck motor and no auto shutoff circuitry. That is why this machine doesn’t have as many electrical malfunctions as the command and conquer. The command seems to be the only one suffering from the handles breaking for some reason. The Oreck commercial line has had some issues with premature motor failure and the new plastic roller they’ve started using instead of the old wooden ones have had some bearing issues with them melting or locking up prematurely. Within a year or so these issues arise in the commercial line it seems. Not all of them but many have suffered these issues.

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