Thread Number: 41528  /  Tag: Pre-1950 Vacuum Cleaners
my new(to me) Electrolux XI motor! (help me?)
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Post# 439997   3/19/2021 at 12:49 (1,133 days old) by jrdavis (oklahoma)        

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it is beautiful little motor, but how do i remove bearing caps safely?(yes i know-i have to run it on 220 but what would happen on 110?)

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Post# 440067 , Reply# 1   3/20/2021 at 12:49 (1,132 days old) by jrdavis (oklahoma)        
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does anyone know how to get to the armature on this thing?

Post# 440093 , Reply# 2   3/20/2021 at 23:51 (1,132 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
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Im attaching photos.
Pic 1
The housing separates on those two body lines.
Blue is next to screws that need removed.
The fan is going to be like a compact or old kenmore two or three layer aluminum fan. You handle them with care if you bend they don't ever run right.
White is where you will find the motor and field coil.
The purple area once removed should have screws that run horizontal in the center holding the whole assembly together.
Pic 2 bottom of motor indent is where bearings will be at bottom of the armature.
I've disassembled motors my information is probably spot on.
The 220to 110 I understand what needs to happen but I have no idea how to make the vacuum run on 110. You could wire a 220 outlet with ra european plug in. I know how to do that but it's not practical and would cost alot of money.
I'd figure out how to or if you can get it to work on 110 by maybe swapping field coil?
Sounds like a learning project hopefully not a bad one.


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Post# 440095 , Reply# 3   3/21/2021 at 00:02 (1,132 days old) by vacman1961 (North Babylon, New York)        

NO !!!! Those previous disassembly instructions are incorrect. There is a tool, looks similar to the tool that you would change the spikes on golf shoes, sort of a fork with the 2 canter prongs removed, you insert it into the 2 holes on the bearing caps and unscrew them. Also, if memory serves me, the fan cover is also threaded on like a big screw, I haven't taken one apart in many years, but nothing is pressed on, it is all threaded.

Post# 440105 , Reply# 4   3/21/2021 at 09:46 (1,132 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Tool

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The tool is a bearing puller. You rent from part's store.

Post# 440113 , Reply# 5   3/21/2021 at 13:43 (1,131 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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If it's a 220v motor, the long and short of it is that you will not get it to run on 120v. Not without replacing the field and the armature, and at that point, you may as well just get a 120v motor.

If you were to plug it into 120v, it might run. At about half speed. Obviously, if you plug it in and it does not turn, unplug it immediately. But it should run enough to see if it kind of works.

Do you have an electric stove, dryer, or 240v window air conditioner in your home? If so, you already have a 240v outlet. Making an adapter would be simple and maybe $40 or less.


Post# 440115 , Reply# 6   3/21/2021 at 14:53 (1,131 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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Do NOT follow reply #2 directions. You don't need to take out every screw, rivet, switch, handle, etc.

First off before you pull the motor apart take out the carbon brushes.

Then the bearing bridge at the fan end should just unscrew.

I think the bearing will just slide off the end of the armature, if not the back end of the armature will slide out of its' bearing and the fans and armature will come out together.

One of the two bearings just slides on to the armature but I can't remember which one.

Once you get the two haves apart you can unscrew the cover over the bearing with the special tool (NOT a bearing puller) and the bearing should just push out.


It's kind of like a tootsie pop we can take bets on how long it will take you to get to the middle.


Post# 440126 , Reply# 7   3/21/2021 at 17:12 (1,131 days old) by jrdavis (oklahoma)        
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where would i get a 120v motor?

Post# 440127 , Reply# 8   3/21/2021 at 18:10 (1,131 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
What

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Is the name of the special tool. There is alot of different bearing pullers. Get a tool that nobody knows what it's name is but they know what it's not.
I'm just trying to help. The majority of the time nobody responds. There quick to tell others they're wrong but if they'd actually reply to the thread in the first place it would help members.


Post# 440135 , Reply# 9   3/21/2021 at 19:44 (1,131 days old) by jrdavis (oklahoma)        
i did it!

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i got it apart but it wasnt easy. this might not work every time but the bearing caps with the 2 holes i found a little flat bladed screwdriver that the tip would fit in 1 of them and carefully tapped with a hammer(very gently)unscrewing the fan chamber part was a real challenge but i got it. i couldnt believe the nut holding the fans on didnt give me any trouble-however the 3rd fan gave me quite a bit of grief. i couldnt believe how clean it was inside. funny thing one of the carbon brushes was worn more than the other

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