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Post# 436836   12/29/2020 at 11:06 (1,213 days old) by aprules2 (New Jersey)        

Hi guys I haven't used my B8 in a long time, so I don't know if it's user error or what. But I went to repolish my floor and the floor is all buffed out and shiny, but I am still getting these little swirl marks that imbedded in the finish.It almost looks like the brushes are leaving circles. I'll take you through all the steps. I mist the floor with a spray bottle using the electrolux's wax, then using the hard floor brushes I go over the wax and spread it evenly, I try to work it in there fairly well. Then I wait for it to turn white and haze up. I wait about a 1/2 hour. Then I go back over it using the same hard floor brushes, then I put the lambs wool pads on and buff it up to a shine. Am I doing anything wrong? The floors are just regular polyurethane hardwood floors there in decent shape not perfect. Thanks in advance for any help.

Post# 436839 , Reply# 1   12/29/2020 at 11:13 (1,213 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
I don’t think you are suppossed to wax floors with poly

 I could be wrong but I’ve heard you aren’t suppossed to wax floors that have a polyurethane finish. The waxing is for floors with no protective coating and that’s what the wax does. So it may just be sitting on top of the poly finish and as a result you are getting g swirl marks rather than it bonding with the wood.

Again, I could be wrong here but my Sister and Brother told me this as they have both types of floors in their homes.

My Brother uses a burnishing technique that uses steel wool pads on his and my Sister did the traditional wax over stain on hers. They both have had homes over 200 years old with very old wide plank wood floors..often around 10 to 12 inches wide.

Jon

Post# 436843 , Reply# 2   12/29/2020 at 11:38 (1,213 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I refinished most of my floors,

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with polyurethane. I was told to never apply wax, for that very reason. I was told it was not necessary.


Post# 436846 , Reply# 3   12/29/2020 at 14:05 (1,213 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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Jo is correct. You can't apply floor wax onto polyurethane floors. The polyurethane seals the wood and prevents the wax from getting down into it.

 
Post# 436847 , Reply# 4   12/29/2020 at 14:53 (1,213 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Thanks, Charles

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You've always been great for polishing wood floors.


Post# 436850 , Reply# 5   12/29/2020 at 15:35 (1,213 days old) by aprules2 (New Jersey)        

It says on the wax thats its good for all wood surfaces and even composite floors. If we couldn't wax would floors everyone would have to refinish them every couple years. The gloss always fades from wear. Even when I was in high-school they polished the gym floors several times a year.

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Post# 436853 , Reply# 6   12/29/2020 at 16:28 (1,213 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC)        

Hello? Please listen! You cannot wax floors that have a Polyurethane finish! They are NOT compatible with wax! You can however, buff your floors using just the brushes, which might brighter then floors a bit, but isn't going to given them a bright waxed finish! It does NOT matter what the can says! Your floors are not waxable because they already are finished!

Post# 436858 , Reply# 7   12/29/2020 at 17:14 (1,213 days old) by Electroluxxxx (……)        

as people have stated above, Wax is not intended for use on wood floors with Poly on them, I used to fix peoples mistakes when I worked in commercial cleaning and trust me it wasn't fun. The custodians at your school were actually burnishing (buffing) the floors they weren't waxing them. reading the can means nothing if you don't know what you're doing. So please listen to the people here before you make a costly mistake.

Post# 436863 , Reply# 8   12/29/2020 at 18:12 (1,213 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
Yes but

 While the label says it’s good for all wood...it does not indicate that it is good for pre finished wood. I would call Aerus and also a reputable hardwood company. You could actually be wearing down the polyurethane finish with those brushes! Polyurethane should last many many years. My parents put it in their hardwoods in 1966 and it stayed nice for 20 years in the high traffic areas and in the less high traffic areas it still looks good today. Personally I think Aerus Electrolux should be more specific when they say “All wood”. Yes all wood that has not had polyurethane on it will accept the product so they are correct in saying it that way. Usually most people know that polyurethane floors never should be waxed. It also could become a slip hazard should you wax them.

If you really want to wax your floors then you should have the floors sanded and restained then wax and polish them. Basically polyurethane is a plastic finish so you are not applying the wax to the wood, but rather to the plastic coating. There are unfinished composite products that can be waxed and stone as well can be waxed because these products do t have a “finish” applied. The reason this is called a “finish” is because it is the final coat to finish or complete the process of protecting your floors from wear.

If your polyurethane has worn in some areas really the floors should be stripped or sanded and restained and refinished. A proper polyurethane product for hardwoods will last many years before the floors would need to be refinished.

Jon


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