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Post# 429851   8/12/2020 at 10:27 (1,353 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The new Perfect copy of the Electrolux Commercial upright has hit the market. I got serial number 67. I plan to sell a ton of these. The machine comes packed with the attachments in the box, but NOT onboard the machine (which would make it heavy). The belt is the silent serpentine belt so the cleaner is much quieter than the Aerus model. Best of all is the price point we can sell it for. There are many Dyson stick vacs that sell for more than this wonderful machine. The HEPA filter is very reasonable in price and simple to replace. I just love it. We will be showing it to everyone who attends The Vacuum Cleaner Collectors Convention next month. So all stay safe, we have limited it to 20 invitations. Every attendee gets a custom made mask (by Chicago Mike). All social distancing will be in place - but with 3500 square feet of Vac Shop/Vacuum Museum it shouldn't be a problem. Stay tuned for pics - it's an annual pilgrimage for many. With absolutely NO pretentiousness at all.


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Post# 429854 , Reply# 1   8/12/2020 at 11:26 (1,353 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Cool

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I really like the red color on these. Although I would prefer to have one with tools on-board (That's just me). Proteam also made a few before without any on-board tools but they don't sell those anymore, I liked how they had a power switch on the handle.

Post# 429855 , Reply# 2   8/12/2020 at 11:54 (1,352 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Onboard tools...

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Good move on Perfect's part leaving the tools 'off-board'. That's the major reason my Discovery Plus has been sitting in my barn since 2016. It's heavy and awkward with all those tools loaded onto it. I haven't seen—much less handled—Perfect's tools onboard upright so maybe they had a better execution but what Electrolux did back in the '80s, which made the machine very awkward and unbalanced to use when fully packed. It was great for storage, very space efficient, but I always felt the need to unpack most of the tools, at least the hose and wands, to create some semblance of usability. It was only after I rescued my Discovery II by from the curb some time later that I realized hey, this isn't such a bad vacuum after all.

Post# 429861 , Reply# 3   8/12/2020 at 13:49 (1,352 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The Perfect can be had without the on-board tools (which is the one I showed) as well as the model With the On-Board tools. I always felt that one was very heavy so I was pleased as punch that they brought out a lighter one without the tools on-board. Because there's a seal all around the nozzle between the cover and the nozzle base, there's no loss of airflow. Such a great design. It feels like Kirby suction while easy to push.

Post# 429862 , Reply# 4   8/12/2020 at 14:02 (1,352 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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You have no idea how glad I am that you got the opportunity to move the museum to such a big new space! So good to know that the reports if the museum’s demise have been grossly exaggerated!

Looking forward to seeing everyone next month!


Post# 429863 , Reply# 5   8/12/2020 at 14:30 (1,352 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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So it has a serpentine belt instead of the previous geared belt?
What kind of adjustments does it have for soft carpet?

Is Aerus still making a version of this?

I don't know if you remember the sanitaire rebranding of these that existed in the early 2000s briefly.
I've always liked the Electrolux Discovery series.



Post# 429869 , Reply# 6   8/12/2020 at 14:55 (1,352 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
UltraLux88

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I spend a lot of money each month on having the Museum (which is open and free tours) to be able to share ALL brands of vacuums with people. They all have such a rich history, I couldn't imagine being a 'vacuum snob' and only liking 1 brand. Can you imagine? How boring that would be. I enjoy being able to show people the very oldest of cleaners, and taking them through history. The GE's, the Electrolux, the Rexairs, and of course, the Air-Way's (so many firsts). Not to mention Lewyt and Compact and Kirby and all the others.

Post# 429896 , Reply# 7   8/12/2020 at 21:55 (1,352 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
I am so sorry

That you have such an unhappy, tortured soul that you always try to feel better by hurting others. May the Lord heal the hatred in your cold, empty heart.

Post# 429901 , Reply# 8   8/12/2020 at 23:00 (1,352 days old) by Air-WayCharlie (USA)        

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Is that last post for real, or some kind of joke? I don't post here very often and have not been aware of the "politics", of this site for some time. I do know former Presidents of the VCCC are mostly thrown under the bus ie: myself, Tom Gasko, R.J. Vanik, Richard Klein, etc., for reasons unknown.

The Tom I know does not have a "cold, empty heart". The Tom Gasko I know has been generous to this site, the VCCC and mostly to his friends. I have been the recipient of his generosity. During a visit to the old museum two years ago, I cam home with a Kenmore "Bugeye" Imperial, an unusual Electrolux stick vac with a power head, a General Electric 1940s upright, an early 1960s Kenmore upright and a wonderful Apex upright. Longtime members Tania Voigt and Duane Taylor, who were with me, were also recipients of sought after vacuums.

Last year, when I visited the new museum, Tom sold me a SEBO Felix for a great price and it is one of my favorite vacuums. Tom also sent me last year several genuine Lux brush rolls with the chevron style bristling that he knows I prefer--gratis! He has also given me literature, attachments and vintage bags for my Air-Way twin motored uprights. Those are like hen's teeth!

And this man is cold hearted? In gratitude, I sent him a newer Kirby that was rebuilt by the factory for the museum and he was very appreciative.

We have all said and done things we regret but with personal growth you learn, (hopefully), to forgive and more on. Tom and I have had our disagreements in the past but that is where they are......in the past. Our appreciation for each other and our mutual affection for the vacuum collecting hobby elevated us above and forward of the petty past. It would be nice if more could do the same.

If Tom is accused of "hurting others", maybe it is because someone else started something and was looking for provocation. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.


Post# 429919 , Reply# 9   8/13/2020 at 10:00 (1,352 days old) by Electroluxxxx (……)        

Apparently it was a joke Charlie!
Tom has been very generous since I first met him. We would hold wonderful conversations for hours on end and he has always been rather warm and inviting. He has a vast amount of knowledge that he loves to share with the class, and a copious amount of paperwork to back it up. When I first went out to the museum I went looking for a hotel, his response was “why do that?! You can come stay with us!” That was a very generous offer, he was kind enough to treat me to lunch and dinner and also a couple of machines to take home with me. He even offered to send me home with a machine for a friend of mine, a machine that was quite rare. He wanted it to go to a good home and that person couldn’t be happier with it. Tom isn’t about competition, and hosting glamorous fru fru events, he’s about the friends and the hobby that we all share in common, he could care less about banquets, someone’s financial status, and what they have, he cares about the friends the good times that can be had and also the things that he can teach people. Education can be a good thing when it comes to the history of what we collect.
Before you go spilling about how cold hearted someone is Harley, the least you could do is get your facts straight. All you know is what one side tells you and that side can’t seem to let go of the past, the past that should BE LEFT IN 2007-2008!!!! Not brought into 2020. Remember there is ALWAYS 2 sides to a story.


Post# 429920 , Reply# 10   8/13/2020 at 10:22 (1,352 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
Well Mike

I don't talk to anyone. I know what I read. I read vindictiveness. I read put downs. I read about sour grapes. Not just towards clubs but former employers, and others.

I have no doubt that he possesses knowledge, I have no doubt that he is generous to people he is buying I just see his remarks as beneath him and that is why I blessed his little heart. The only one that I have ever heard of that rejected blessings was Satan himself.

Thank you for your input.



Post# 429923 , Reply# 11   8/13/2020 at 10:48 (1,352 days old) by Electroluxxxx (……)        

Seems like you arrived to the party late too then! Know the facts before passing judgement.

Post# 429931 , Reply# 12   8/13/2020 at 11:36 (1,351 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
Yes I am late to the orgy

and have missed all the messy aftermath, however, now that the dirty laundry is being aired in a public forum it only serves to make the ones sucking sour grapes look very vindictive and petty.

I don't have a monkey in either zoo, it just tends to make the entire site very toxic and unpleasant for everyone. Just do the name calling at your private parties and don't involve the rest of us, then we won't have to listen to or respond.

It was stated that this site is for collectors to enjoy their hobby and share with other collectors. Let's do that.


Post# 429933 , Reply# 13   8/13/2020 at 11:44 (1,351 days old) by Electroluxxxx (……)        
Harley, May I call you Harley?

If we were supposed to stay on subject in this thread then why veer it off to a different path of people being cold hearted?

Orgy? Where? Is somebody sitting in the middle? I don’t think that an orgy is a topic for a public vacuumland forum as sucking sour grapes can be misconstrued for something else. Is the monkeys remark supposed to be a racial slur? Please inform as inquiring minds want to know.......................


Post# 429936 , Reply# 14   8/13/2020 at 12:29 (1,351 days old) by Justinajax (Georgia)        

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I haven’t posted on here in more than a month and come back to talks of an orgy! Nice


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Post# 429940 , Reply# 15   8/13/2020 at 13:11 (1,351 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The Perfect Commercial models are a wonderful lineup to any vac shop. And in my favorite color of bloody red.

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Post# 429943 , Reply# 16   8/13/2020 at 14:35 (1,351 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
What on earth is happening here??

I keep seeing these wars of words in several threads. I have NO idea what is happening. I haven't seen anything that would warrant or start any of this.

Some of us must've missed the party big time. I've seen a lot hate but no clue as to why. LOL

Maybe it's best to not know... hehe


Post# 429946 , Reply# 17   8/13/2020 at 15:03 (1,351 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I agree.

My thread was about the Perfect upright. And how great it is to be able to sell an upright with that kind of quality.



Post# 429950 , Reply# 18   8/13/2020 at 15:16 (1,351 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
Whomever were you indicating with this statement?

"I couldn't imagine being a 'vacuum snob' and only liking 1 brand"

Post# 429955 , Reply# 19   8/13/2020 at 15:40 (1,351 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        
back on topic...

yes, Tom I do agree that it nice to sell such a quality cleaner. at least parts are easy to obtain and they are interchangeable with lux parts. The quality is also about as good as Aerus quality!


Post# 430005 , Reply# 20   8/14/2020 at 11:05 (1,351 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
Harley is a huge old pussy

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Fat and furry and mean to everyone. Maybe it's because his balls were cut off early on. He's 17 years old now, so I figured this was the time to put him to use.

I brought him to work today so he could roll all over my black walk-off mats. The new Perfect Upright, with it's serpentine belt and auger-type brush bristle pattern pulls every one of his little hairs right up into the HEPA bag.

I'm keeping the mats with the hair on them for demonstration purposes. I know I could use Kapok, but the hair of a real pussy is always best. It lets people know what to expect when they get it home.


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Post# 430006 , Reply# 21   8/14/2020 at 11:14 (1,351 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
I think the correct term for a male cat is Tom

Yet it still didn't stop him from peeing up the wall.

Bless his little heart.





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Post# 430015 , Reply# 22   8/14/2020 at 13:58 (1,350 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        
I for one...

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Have stroked that pussy many a time! I’ve never felt a bigger, softer, hairier pussy than Harley!

Post# 430032 , Reply# 23   8/15/2020 at 00:53 (1,350 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

On board tools on commercial vacuums-no point in those-the uprights are used for floor cleaning ONLY by commercial users.The tools are used by the backpack and other commercial canister vacuum users.

Post# 430041 , Reply# 24   8/15/2020 at 02:36 (1,350 days old) by RegularRett69 (San Clemente California, USA)        
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I was just at my local shop the other day, and found out they are carrying Perfect cleaners now! The time I saw it, the shop owner hadn't even turned the machine on yet. I am talking about the lightweight upright. Once the shop gets to be a real showroom, I'll be able to test it out. I'll ask if he's thinking about ordering one of these Lux style uprights anytime soon. It's great to see Tom walking through the vines of this forest of argument, and stick to what his original post was for. I've never met Tom, nor spoke to him, but one day I will, and it'll be lovely.

Thanks, Garrett T.


Post# 430050 , Reply# 25   8/15/2020 at 10:31 (1,350 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
Hey Garrett

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I love all the Perfect brand machines. The company is so easy to deal with.

The light weight model sells really well, it's not too expensive for folks to buy. It's a good machine.

I love the blue and chrome upright. Every thing anyone could want in a wonderful carpet cleaning machine.


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Post# 430051 , Reply# 26   8/15/2020 at 10:32 (1,350 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Who knew the Perfect light weight upright also is labeled as a Clean Obsessed. I sell this model to the college here in town.

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Post# 430054 , Reply# 27   8/15/2020 at 10:52 (1,350 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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Tom, that's a great looking vacuum. I can't wait to hear one in person someday and notice the sound tone difference of it versus a cogged belt one. The airflow sounds great. I hope they sell like hot cakes for you and other vac shops who get them.

Kirbysthebest.... I don't know you and have no idea who you are, but I hope you sleep well with your cruelness. I find it extremely unprofessional how you just waltzed on here unloading a garbage heap and spreading it.
Shame on you sir, shame!!


Post# 430055 , Reply# 28   8/15/2020 at 11:03 (1,350 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
I'll comment on Tom's generosity too...

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I've met Tom a few times and he is a generous, kind soul filled with knowledge and has been a great friend. Ever since meeting him a few years ago at a convention, I've tried to make annual trips around my work and of course 2020 has been hard with Covid.

Last year when I saw him, I was surprised by the gift of a brand new old stock Hoover Quadraflex PowerMatic. He knows my heart is in power nozzle canisters, especially Hoovers. It was extremely kind and unexpected.

On prior occasions, I've received other freebies in form parts, machines and labor. He fixed a Simplicity Verve canister vac of mine and all I had to pay was one way shipping. He covered the return ship. I received a free Royal Lexon canister vac, bare floor tools for Riccar, vacuum bags, brush rolls. All sorts of oddities. He's also a wonderful cook. He has sent me home with jars of Marinara Sauce and other goodies knowing that I love Italian food very much!

Throughout our lives we encounter people of all sorts. Some we get along with quite well, some we don't get along with at all. I don't know what part of you read him wrong and I'm sorry you guys didn't get along but don't come in here, ruin the party and make things up with this orgy talk. Move on...


Post# 430063 , Reply# 29   8/15/2020 at 12:05 (1,349 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
Perfect vacuums

Before I talk about vacuums, I want to also say that Tom has been an awesome friend and he has given me lots of knowledge that I would never have had otherwise. I'm a blind person and the first time I visited the museum, he took several hours to let me feel and hear each vacuum, for someone without sight, obtaining as much information from your other senses is important. I am looking forward to seeing him and everyone else next month at the convention.
Ok, on to the original topic of this thread. I have a few different Perfect vacuums and they are all very good. I have the C101 which I don't think is made anymore, it's a metal canister which looks very much like an Electrolux metal canister, it uses a two stage motor and it's very powerful. I also have the 103 which Tom sold me which looks similar to a plastic Electrolux canister. Interestingly, it still uses the metal Electrolux hose. I also have the Perfect 10 quart backpack, it's very nice and one of the only backpacks with a hook up for a power nozzle. I'm looking forward to getting their commercial canister, that also sounds like a great cleaner.
I wonder how the new Perfect upright compares to the Sebo Felix, I'm much more of a canister person but I absolutely love the Felix. For those who prefer uprights, it sounds like Perfect has developed a really nice one.
Mike


Post# 430080 , Reply# 30   8/15/2020 at 13:29 (1,349 days old) by Electroluxxxx (……)        
Rob:

AMEN!!!

Post# 430084 , Reply# 31   8/15/2020 at 13:48 (1,349 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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Is the Perfect-Lux made in America or China? Looks like a great clone but I'd probably be willing to pay a little more to surport Aerus if those are still made here.

Post# 430090 , Reply# 32   8/15/2020 at 13:58 (1,349 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The Perfect machines are made in China, but Perfect (an American Company) owns their own factory in China. So they control the quality. The Aerus Commercial, at this moment, is made in the USA. Interestingly, the Perfect has more suction (almost 100 inches of lift).

Post# 430093 , Reply# 33   8/15/2020 at 14:04 (1,349 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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They are virtually the same, Aerus on left and Perfect in the middle. Also the new Perfect on-board tool upright.

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Post# 430102 , Reply# 34   8/15/2020 at 16:28 (1,349 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

We tried the Sanitaire style upright at work and didn't like it. Same motor and agitator.

For what ever reason just didn't seem to perform or handle the same. I noticed the arc on the handle was different. We were using the dust cup model.

Which in some ways is sad as they are cost competitive in the market.

The electrolux style one I'm not to sure about. I used the Discovery equivalent and just wasn't impressed with that one for sure. It doesn't help that I prefer a direct air machine.


Post# 430112 , Reply# 35   8/15/2020 at 17:53 (1,349 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

We also have had 2 of the Bissell versions.

Problem children with clogging up easy. You have to take the brush housing apart to unclog the machine. Then putting the clam shell brush housing back together and getting the seals to stay in place long enough to do it.

The brush housing and all around the motor were always full of dirt and lint.

Made me appreciate just about any other vacuum but that one.



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