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Post# 429850   8/12/2020 at 10:13 (1,358 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        

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First, I don't want to ruing my threads about my trip to North Canton or the newsletter.
I've requested a private message to discuss a few topics that have rattled another member. Airing dirty laundry in here isn't the place. It involves slams about silly things like cookies (dry) tea, glass houses, mental asylums.. ovens and Germany
I'm sorry anyone had to see any of that. It's distasteful, mean, and nasty.
I try to stay on topic.
Thanks,


Post# 429853 , Reply# 1   8/12/2020 at 11:20 (1,358 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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Post# 429860 , Reply# 2   8/12/2020 at 13:02 (1,358 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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For the record, here is the dull axe I’ve been holding onto for two years, and now grinding. I could continue going back before this, and going since this post, and I could dredge of a full blown menagerie of examples to prove my point. You think it’s real cute going around making these comments and pretending they’re completely innocent and never said a word to be taken in such a manner. I don’t know how you think it looks, I’m sure someone who regularly concurs finds it cute and clever, but really it just makes you look like the giant F. C. that we said you are!


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Post# 429871 , Reply# 3   8/12/2020 at 15:51 (1,358 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Reggie,

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I don't know you, never met you, never spoke to you. I hope you feel better now, getting all of that off your chest.
Now, you must leave me alone, and save your comments for when you and your friends all convene next month.
Best to you.


Post# 429873 , Reply# 4   8/12/2020 at 16:09 (1,358 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        
Leave you alone...

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Until the next time you pull this stuff again. Wherever you make one of your smarmy, snarky jabs, that’s where my comments to you will be found...

Post# 429875 , Reply# 5   8/12/2020 at 16:10 (1,358 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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P.S. your three friends won’t be in attendance!

Post# 429908 , Reply# 6   8/13/2020 at 08:28 (1,357 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
A private email might be better for this barrage

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And, for your records, there are 4 people of interest.
That post was removed before I could see it. But,I'm told it was quite something.A 33 year old man should maybe know not to post something like that in a public forum.But, there will be no contest with me.


Post# 429921 , Reply# 7   8/13/2020 at 10:33 (1,357 days old) by fairfax88 (Orlando, FL)        

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Post# 429925 , Reply# 8   8/13/2020 at 10:59 (1,357 days old) by Hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida)        

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What on earth is this even about?

Post# 429926 , Reply# 9   8/13/2020 at 10:59 (1,357 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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"And, for your records, there are 4 people of interest.
That post was removed before I could see it. But,I'm told it was quite something.A 33 year old man should maybe know not to post something like that in a public forum.But, there will be no contest with me."

Why? The things I am upset about are things you have openly done and said RIGHT HERE on THIS WEBSITE. So you can go around, digging at people, but when people get fed up with it, they aren't allowed to call you out on it??



Post# 429928 , Reply# 10   8/13/2020 at 11:04 (1,357 days old) by Electroluxxxx (……)        

Well it’s not that you can’t call someone out, said person might block you on Facebook just to unblock you and harass you just to block you again. Seems like people like to throw punches or in this case stones at glass houses, and then run away and not face the consequences! It’s a common trait of people who are narcissistic and like to cause an issue then “play the victim”.

Signed:
Santa’s little helper


Post# 429934 , Reply# 11   8/13/2020 at 12:04 (1,357 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I'm certainly not going to get in the middle of a mess,

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innuendos, double entendres, etc...
Some people are just mean. That's all.


Post# 429938 , Reply# 12   8/13/2020 at 12:53 (1,357 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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John, you ARE the middle of this mess!

Post# 429939 , Reply# 13   8/13/2020 at 12:57 (1,357 days old) by TURBO_360 (North Texas)        
ok

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can we possibly cool things down a bit? this site is for vacuums not ranting about what happend 2 years ago.

Post# 429944 , Reply# 14   8/13/2020 at 14:47 (1,357 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        
John, may I call you John?

I hate to burp your bag today, but YOU are the one who CREATED THIS MESS and NOW you want to run away!!!! Why do you feel entitled to the luxury of stoking this dumpster fire without getting burned?! If you cannot handle the heat from the "ovens" then step out of the "kitchen".

 

 

 

 


Post# 429945 , Reply# 15   8/13/2020 at 14:58 (1,357 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Michael,

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Please don't call me anything. I'm finished with you. I said what I needed to say. I will not engage in any more of this. Live your life, enjoy your vacuums, your friends, and I'll enjoy mine. I hope you remember fun times at my home. I will listen to no more about me, including likening me to a guard outside showers in Germany. quotes by you, or your associates.
Peace to you, Mr. Gravelin. And, goodbye.


Post# 429947 , Reply# 16   8/13/2020 at 15:05 (1,357 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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And this is the whole point on that ax I’m grinding, you are a prolific stoker of dumpster fires. What finished me off is the way you’ve been attacking Sam. Shockingly, the person you think is at the center of this is solely a spectator. YOU are the one who has been instigating things. YOU are the one who was at the center of the letters sent about Tom, YOU are the one who keeps putting these smarmy attacks in your posts. You post your attacks on here, and then you want me to message you privately about it?? You can say what you want on here antagonizing people you don’t like, yet it’s not to be discussed when people are tired of it? You brought this all on yourself by your behavior big in and off the forum.

Post# 429948 , Reply# 17   8/13/2020 at 15:11 (1,357 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        

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Post# 429951 , Reply# 18   8/13/2020 at 15:16 (1,357 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        
Jason Huber...

NO ONE in this thread mentioned Jason Huber, why on earth would you mention Jason in a thread having nothing to do with that manky mess. Unless there is something you know that we don't? like having your eyes on the inside of OUR PRIVATE group.


Post# 429954 , Reply# 19   8/13/2020 at 15:25 (1,357 days old) by JustinAjax (Georgia)        

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I dated a guy once who took being passive aggressive to new heights. Ever since I have zero patience with it.

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Post# 429974 , Reply# 20   8/13/2020 at 20:55 (1,356 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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I think this is properly placed.....

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Post# 429991 , Reply# 21   8/14/2020 at 00:48 (1,356 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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Post# 429997 , Reply# 22   8/14/2020 at 02:34 (1,356 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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Admins please lock the thread. Arguments and in-fighting need to be contained to PM's and emails. Arguing on a public thread in an effort to humiliate each other in front of strangers does nothing but make you look silly.

Post# 430003 , Reply# 23   8/14/2020 at 10:41 (1,356 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
This is why I stayed away so long.

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I took a chance some months ago and came back to Vacuumland, looks like it was a mistake. Things were fine till now, but the same drama is starting again. Clearly this is not where I want to be. So aside from looking at the 'Vacuum of the day,' I'm outta here.

Alex Taber.


Post# 430004 , Reply# 24   8/14/2020 at 10:54 (1,356 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Alex, That's a shame, really.

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You'd always post interesting things.
You can see the firestorm, that was not intended. But, it seems everything I say or do gets scrutinized and attacked. It's all so unfortunate. Seems I've become "Public Enemy #1" with Tom A. as #2. It's OK, though. Some just keep at it. What do they really want? Back and forth... how long do they want to do that? I've lost some friends... were they that close, really, then? So, it was 'mission accomplished' on their part. I'm not sure what they really want from me, but.. And, if they cared to take anything to private email to keep the mess out of here... I'd say. "OK, here's you r chance... get this all out of your systems,,insult, ridicule,etc, all you want".
But, Alex, you've been appreciated, etc. I hope to talk to you soon.


Post# 430011 , Reply# 25   8/14/2020 at 13:11 (1,356 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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Well that was exciting... got a call from none other than the Wichita witch last night, and WOW was that thing upset!

Post# 430012 , Reply# 26   8/14/2020 at 13:13 (1,356 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Thanks John.

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I have 141 days left before I renew. A lot can happen. But I log on to see the great things this group has to offer, not to be part of the bickering and backstabbing, that was what drove me away before. Hopefully this madness can end and people can stay on the main subject, Vacuum cleaners.

Post# 430016 , Reply# 27   8/14/2020 at 14:08 (1,356 days old) by Electroluxxxx (……)        
John:

Some of us have tried to take this to private messages, but you keep blocking when someone brings up something you don’t agree with Or like. I’m sorry but things that were in the past should stay there. I’ll continue to say that. You need to realize that you seem obsessed with trying to consistently RUIN someone who you have never even met or know. People only attack when being attacked and that has consistently been proven as it continues to happen. Only you can put the fire out by not continuing.

Post# 430021 , Reply# 28   8/14/2020 at 16:39 (1,356 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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If someone blocks you, then just drop it and move on with your life. Get over it and just leave, walk away. Forget they exist.

@Caligula

This doesn't happen all the time. Just every few months. I just bought a subscription to the site as well, and it doesn't bother me. Every club has miscreants and troublemakers no matter what it is.


Post# 430022 , Reply# 29   8/14/2020 at 16:43 (1,356 days old) by Thevacomaticiec (Bathurst New Brunswick Canada )        

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Lets just be kind agree to disagree and be kind happy vacuuming .

Post# 430023 , Reply# 30   8/14/2020 at 16:55 (1,356 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Re. Caligula.

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Hi Huskyvacs:

I'm Alex Taber, Caligula was the cat sitting on the chair in my pic. He was the only mascot the VCCC ever had.

My involvement with the VCCC goes back to day one.


Post# 430024 , Reply# 31   8/14/2020 at 17:29 (1,355 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Huskyvacs.

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I see you are new to Vacuumland, welcome.

Alex.


Post# 430025 , Reply# 32   8/14/2020 at 18:07 (1,355 days old) by Turbo360 (North TX)        

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Lets take a look and see what it says inside the red box

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Post# 430026 , Reply# 33   8/14/2020 at 18:18 (1,355 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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Can someone just delete this entire thread?? It's entirely inappropriate language and has nothing to do with vacuums. There's no reason for it to even be on the forum. If people insist on having childish arguments with each other, do it by email or private message.

Post# 430027 , Reply# 34   8/14/2020 at 18:30 (1,355 days old) by Opelgtkarl (Puyallup, Washington)        
Dear Webmaster....

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Please take this thread down. If you don’t, it will only get worse. It literally has nothing to do with “vintage vacuums” and has this cause enough issues between other members. Instead of looking on to other new posts, this thread keeps getting more and more attention from rubberneckers instead of paying attention to relative posts in the forum. I realize that I am no better, but for the love of vacuum collecting, please delete this from our website’s history.

I would hope the the webmaster reads this and responds in a timely matter as this has gone way too far.


Post# 430028 , Reply# 35   8/14/2020 at 18:39 (1,355 days old) by Thevacomaticiec (Bathurst New Brunswick Canada )        

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Yes lets take this tread down take the drama else were plz

Post# 430033 , Reply# 36   8/15/2020 at 00:54 (1,355 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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I think the admins take a laissez-faire approach to moderation around these parts.

Post# 430034 , Reply# 37   8/15/2020 at 00:57 (1,355 days old) by Thevacomaticiec (Bathurst New Brunswick Canada )        

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So far it seems like it

Post# 430042 , Reply# 38   8/15/2020 at 02:58 (1,355 days old) by RegularRett69 (San Clemente California, USA)        
Disappointed

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I'm just a bit disappointed that we aren't really getting quality threads around here too much. When I first started on this site, which was pretty recent, I was seeing threads on this type of vacuum and that, and many replies. I also saw threads that started with a question or excitement, and answered the title when you would go into the thread. Those were fun to read, I miss them. I can try to start doing that type of thing, but I can't guarantee the quality of the post. I've been focusing on exploring new vacuums recently, and have wanted to make threads on it, but I fear that everybody will be bantering on these types of threads and my thread won't get any replies, or anybody seeing them.

I've started to make videos to go along with future VL posts, so that'll be interesting. I feel that I shouldn't post more than once a week, but I think that more posts would be better for everybody to participate. All of this is just making me sad now. Anybody reading this, when I post, even if you don't like the cleaner or subject, could you just be fake for me and say "that's cool!" or maybe "hope you enjoyed that" for me? It'd make me much happier. I get quite excited when people reply to my threads and I love to see what people think.

When it comes to the point of this post, I really don't appreciate the general hate going on in the world. It seems that the last time the world was happy was in the 70's! and I wasn't even born close to then. I just really hope that this type of argument doesn't become verbal during the nearest V.C.C.C.

Regards, Garrett Thompson


Post# 430052 , Reply# 39   8/15/2020 at 10:33 (1,355 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
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Welcome to Vacuumland and I hope you are taking full advantage of Archive Searches and the various forums. There is a lot to offer here.

This thread is a rarity and not a commonality here. Hundreds if not thousands of collectors over time have posted in this forum over the years spreading their knowledge and sharing their vacuum collection passion with all. This thread is rare and not what VacuumLand should be taken for.

I feel you should post as much as frequently as you like to the appropriate topic area based on the kind of vacuum you have. We look forward to it.

I haven't been on this near as much as I was in the beginning when I first realized that vacuum collecting was "A Thing" and that was back around 2012. My aggressive work schedule and managing some Facebook vac groups make it hard for me to get over here but I still pop in on occasion. I like the FaceBook arena a lot as it is people posting daily with what they used that day and I watch their videos.

Alex Taber, I wish the same for you. Stay with the group and continue to post and share your vacuum collecting passion. The viciousness should vanish.

Have a great weekend everyone!


Post# 430058 , Reply# 40   8/15/2020 at 11:14 (1,355 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        
@RegularRett69

Welcome to the group. Please don't be put off by a what has been going on in this post.

Also don't be reluctant to post your interest in any vacuum of your liking. It is true that we all have our vacuum of choice, It is not uncommon to agree to disagree on the value of any particular make or model.

The only way we can keep this site fun, inviting and informative is to just keep posting and keep in mind how we would like to be treated over our own thoughts and treat others here the same.

Think in terms of a carpenter. Measure twice and cut once. IE think twice about what you are about to post. In the end you will have a good chance of keeping a thread going with out all the drama.


Post# 430068 , Reply# 41   8/15/2020 at 12:20 (1,355 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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Nah don't worry about it Rett. People's vacuum posts usually are always positive. Whatever is happening in this thread is personal between 2 or 3 members from something that happened off the website in their own homes and has nothing to do with Vacuumland as a whole.

There is a lot of members on this site, and there has been a lot of new members born in the late 90s and early 2000's joining which is a great sign for the website, and it gives diversity in interest topics as well. So for every someone that doesn't like that particular vacuum there might be a handful of other people that do.


Post# 430069 , Reply# 42   8/15/2020 at 12:22 (1,355 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Durango.159.

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Rest assured I'm not going anywhere, but if I renew next year is still a guess. I've seen more drama with both the VCCC and Vacuumland than you can shake a stick at. I go with the username Caligula because he was the mascot for the VCCC. Caligula in Latin means little boots, I named him that for the gold fur on his paws.

While there have always been hissy fits, name calling, insults, and so on, it should NOT be a part of this group. It saddens me when I see my friend John Long treated with this type of disrespect. The work he has done over the years is truly amazing. He has done an outstanding job resurrecting the Newsletter, and I know the work involved. So I hope we can get this derailed train back on track and stop this madness. The focal point should be our love of the vacuum cleaner, not the bickering and backstabbing.


Post# 430074 , Reply# 43   8/15/2020 at 13:00 (1,355 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
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This thread is on the main forum of this website. It's not what I want to read or see when I log on.
There is substance behind everything but this thread is not about vintage vacuums. If you wonder why quality and content have declined this thread is a great example.
I want to talk about vacuums.
If the moderators read this (my posts are probably the most "moderated" person on the forum) this is not what people want to see on this website period.
Les


Post# 430078 , Reply# 44   8/15/2020 at 13:26 (1,355 days old) by Electroluxxxx (……)        
RegularRett69

Yes welcome, this is definitely not a common thing to happen here and please enjoy all you can learn

@huskyvacs- this is not something that is personal, this is something that happened between 2 groups of collectors and how some can’t let go of the past when the past should be left in the past. please know and understand the facts before making your statements so that they don’t cause more arguments.

Alex- it’s so good to see you posting as we don’t see a lot from you. You have so much to offer in the way of knowledge of the original VCCC and numerous brands of cleaners. It’s always good to see things from you.

Les- this thread shouldn’t have even been created but apparently this was someone’s intent.


Post# 430092 , Reply# 45   8/15/2020 at 14:00 (1,355 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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What has me calling John out on here is the fact that ON THIS FORUM, he CONSTANTLY puts narcissistic digs in nearly all of his posts. It gets old, and when combined with other things he’s been up to, a lot of us are tired of ALL OF IT!!!

Post# 430094 , Reply# 46   8/15/2020 at 14:50 (1,355 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Ultralux88.

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Will you please give this a rest? We're tired of hearing this rant. Enough already.

Post# 430095 , Reply# 47   8/15/2020 at 15:04 (1,355 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        
@Ultralux88

Many of us would like it to end here and NOW !!!!!

The only way to put and end to this on going argument is for ALL parties directly concerned to STOP the the argument.

Or take it up in private messages to one another as suggested.

Lets start acting like adults and not two year old's over something most of us know very little about or even care.

As several stated they left for a while only to find the soap opera continues and the drama over it is anything but entertaining much less fun.

Let's get back to talking about what it is we are here to discuss. OUR VACUUM CLEANERS!


Post# 430099 , Reply# 48   8/15/2020 at 15:46 (1,355 days old) by Thevacomaticiec (Bathurst New Brunswick Canada )        

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Finally some one said it !!

Here to talk about vacuum take the drama some were private or leave this page period admin neeed to take this post down end it once and for all period be adults or leave simple yes your right above .


Post# 430101 , Reply# 49   8/15/2020 at 16:00 (1,355 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

Thank you.

Maybe it should be locked and left as a reminder to all. To learn to play nice together.



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