Thread Number: 40415  /  Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
Retrofitting a Power Nozzle?
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Post# 429096   7/27/2020 at 06:24 (1,369 days old) by fantomfan57 (Central Texas)        

Has anyone successfully added a Power Nozzle to a canister vacuum cleaner that originally was designed to be Straight Suction?

I have been considering doing this. I have a few extra PN's and can see using a a Dremel cutting wheel to cut a hole in the canister body, snap in a outlet and go from there.




Post# 429099 , Reply# 1   7/27/2020 at 08:44 (1,369 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        
Yeah......

it's not only been done, but have seen pics here. One was for an older Connie.

Kevin


Post# 429105 , Reply# 2   7/27/2020 at 11:07 (1,369 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
I’ve done it.

I did it long long ago, back in 1990 to a small Hoover port a power canister. Having had mostly Electrolux and extra Electrolux parts, I did the following...opened up the porta power canister and wired in at the power switch an Electrolux power nozzle sheath cord...I cut off the male end and stripped back the wires to wire into the ports a power is switch. I drilled a hole in the plastic of the porta power’s handle area somewhere close to the switch the right size to have the sheath cord thread through. The end result was a short cord hanging with the female end of It there for plugging in the power nozzle wiring. I then used a wrap around the hose power nozzle wing set that I had retrieved from some other vacuum, then I think I used a second unaltered Electrolux pn-1 blue sheath sheath cord, (the longer one) To go between the power nozzles cord and the wrap around hose wiring. I used a blue Electrolux pn-1 for the power nozzle as it fit the Hoover wand. I used the vacuum for my college dorm room as I had yellow shag carpet I had recovered from somewhere as my dorm room carpet. I gave the vacuum away to a friend when I graduated.

Doing this this way was pretty simple because I only had to drill a small round hole to thread the cord through to equip the unit with the power nozzle outlet. It was very inexpensive I would advise though if drilling through a metal body to fit the hole with some sort of bushing so as to avoid the possibility of the sharp metal edges from cutting the cord which could cause the metal body to become electrified. If you can do it at a plastic spot that’s definitely better too.

I’ve also kept the wiring set up from an old Electrolux model G that I had stripped one time. All the parts easily come off the body for the port. It was the setup where the outlet is located down by the front bottom wheel. It included the outlet itself, the full wiring that runs to the switch, the surface mount metal box the outlet mounts to And the metal cord cover that runs along the bottom of the body of the vacuum. Also included was the rubber bushing where the wire entered through the metal of the body of the vacuum. Some people part out the old model L’s (And these parts were also used on some model G’s, AF’s and R’s) on eBay and you might be able to buy all these parts to use on another vacuum. Electrolux also sometimes put the port on the top metal trim on some AF’s and G’s and most rebuilt Gks and this one doesn’t have the cover for the port or the wire or the bushing, because it is configured differently as it is mounted directly into an existing top trim piece and the wire runs under it back to the switch which Is on top of the unit but just further back.

Jon



Post# 429106 , Reply# 3   7/27/2020 at 11:12 (1,369 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
very clever

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That could be entered in the Monster Vac contest at The V.C.C.C. convention. Dave Kerr did a wild and crazy thing at one of our events using shop vacs. Great minds.

Post# 429133 , Reply# 4   7/27/2020 at 23:27 (1,369 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        
Yes!

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I did this with an H20 Vac Turbo back when they were being sold through infomercials. My curiosity of it got the best of me so I bought it and was quickly disappointed with the lack of a power nozzle so I cracked it open and wired a short cable into the power for the machine. If I remember correctly, I believe I drilled a hole in either end of the hose to run a power cable through it for the nozzle rather than just strapping it to the outside of the hose. I wish I had taken pictures of it.

If it were a vintage machine that I actually cared about then it could have been done a bit prettier, and I wouldn't have chopped into the hose. If you feel comfortable with the electrical work then go for it!


Post# 429145 , Reply# 5   7/28/2020 at 04:20 (1,368 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Oh yeah!

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I've done it a few times now but here's the latest modification. I put a PN port on my Henry, I used the port from an older tristar, then found a space within the "head" that had enough room for it, with the cord winder taking up much of the internal space I had few options.
I drilled a hole into it then proceeded to expand and shape it until the PN port fit then applied a sealant, since the port is flexible, i didn't want it being pushed into the machine since the hole ended up slightly larger than it needed to be.
From there i cut the wires running to the motor and just spliced in the wires from this capped them off and closed it up.
You can use a few different methods to run the power to the nozzle. Whether that's adapting an electric hose like this, it's often referred to as a wessel werk retrofit. Just based off the picture I thought I needed to buy a separate fitting so i had something to screw the 1.25" machine end to but I found when it arrived that it came with a short stub hose attached to it. The other option is to run an external cord. I know there's a 8' pigtail made for rainbows that works rather well for this. just use something whether rubber bands or wire ties to secure it to the hose. Definitely not as neat and clean but it's a lot cheaper than buying a hose.

Mikko's done quite a few PN mods too


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Post# 429224 , Reply# 6   7/29/2020 at 14:47 (1,367 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
I remember those H20 vacs

They were made by Thane,...I almost bought one, but it was a get 2 for 1 price deal and I didn’t want 2.

They didn’t have a power nozzle because they could suck up wet stuff and likely from a liability standpoint equipping it with a power nozzle would have led to someone electrocuting themselves by using the power nozzle on wet carpet.

It was around the time I was sick of my shop vac and wanting an alternative that would filter better and be easy to deal with nasty construction dirt as I hated cleaning the shop vacs filter of really nasty dirt as I was working on a down to the studs remodel of a 1953 house and who knows what was put in the walls and used for flooring, etc back then creating possibly toxic dust. I was wary it would not have good suction and if a part wore out or broke I was wary about ease of repair, also I felt it would not have the capacity to suck up a lot without frequently emptying, and also was nervous if it was tipped it might spill or send water into the motor.. So instead I bought a used Electrolux canister Model E off eBay for the shop vac replacement to make emptying easy with the always available and inexpensive style C self sealing sealed bags and never looked back as parts and bags are readily available. After a while I gave away the E and bought a used AF to replace it as it has a sturdier handle and the one on the E was beginning to tear and I also wanted the option to use a power nozzle and the AF came equipped with a power nozzle port whereas the E did not.

Sorry a bit off track but I haven’t seen much of any discussion of those H20 vacs so when I saw it brought up I thought I’d chime in,

Jon



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