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Rexair Rainbow trademarks SRX name - could new machine be coming very soon?
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Post# 411905   7/22/2019 at 19:05 by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

So the rumor is that there is a new Rainbow coming soon. It is public knowledge that Rainbow has trademarked the name SRX. Perhaps we can have some fun and guess what SRX stands for. SRX = sucks rexair? Perhaps we can speculate what might be coming. I certainly hope that they will have a better power nozzle. I haven't been impressed with the power nozzle designs. I can remember the last time I had a demonstration. The salesperson made many health claims, but I've never seen any proof that the Rainbow has any health benefits. Normally when someone makes a health claim, it is regulated by the FDA or some other organization that requires substantial proof in the form clinical trials. Has Rexair ever collected data on customers to show any long term health benefits? The salesperson claimed that Rainbows are the only vacuums that can be used in hospitals, but he didn't realize I work in a hospital, and there have never been Rainbows used in the large pediatric hospital where I worked. I think he actually believed it was the truth. They also claimed that the Rainbow is the only vacuum that can remove all the dirt from a rug. Of course that was another blatant lie. When the demo started, the salesperson said that the machine being demoed was new in the box. However, it was clear that the same machine had been used previously in countless demonstrations.

Do any Rainbow owners convert their machines to run on alternative power nozzles?


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Post# 411907 , Reply# 1   7/22/2019 at 19:34 by Juju93 (florida)        

Yes thereís a new model coming out soon. It has already been launch Bach in May at some event called the San Diego world trade event. In fact there was another thread on this model but it got deleted the other day (sadly). Iím just waiting for it to become available in the Florida region so I can get my hands on one (itíll be my first rainbow machine). I just wanna see more pics and more info on it as well as the optional accessories. Iím curious to see if any of them have changed. I wouldnít count the rainbowmate as a potential change since they just changed it not even 2 years ago. As for the other accessories I hope they got some sort of updating, even if itís just the packaging.

Post# 411925 , Reply# 2   7/23/2019 at 07:40 by tekjunkie28 (Roanoke Va)        

SRX is Super Rainbow Xtreme

Post# 411972 , Reply# 3   7/24/2019 at 09:12 by Dysonman1 (Missouri Ozarks)        

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I am not looking forward to fixing that new machine. Sure, itís nice to have a steel brush roller with replaceable bristles. The whole 4 Speed motor, And the mechanism that lifts the machine up and down off of the water basin is not something Iím looking forward to repairing.

Post# 411976 , Reply# 4   7/24/2019 at 11:16 by juju93 (florida)        

wait the new brushroll has replacable bristles? I'm curious to if this one has the 4qt water basin and also 14ft hose. I'm also curious to the acoustics of it. Like whats the sound of it on speed 4 compare to what the current e2 back sounds like. In other words is it quieter on speed 4 (which is the highest speed) than what the E2black sounds like on tradional high speed. Also can someone explain to me how the groomer tool works, as well as the timer mode thing and also the other pet tool that was release along the groomer tool. Also does anybody know if the sprayer/rexafoamer will work with this new model?

Post# 411995 , Reply# 5   7/24/2019 at 22:58 by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Seems we have a new anti-Rainbow thread already. Before anyone (other than Rexair people) has seen it they know all about it! Amazing!

Be that as it may, there are some flaws is your post...

1) There is nothing wrong with Rexair's power nozzles. The human eye cannot judge cleaning performance of dirt particles effectively. It takes science to do that. The current nozzles have been tested under the ONLY scientifically rigorous testing regimen available at the CRI's test facilities and found to be very effective. It was awarded a Silver (the second highest) grade for soil removal in 4 passes-one of the very best for a canister machine. It was quieter than Aerus' or Riccar's to boot.

2) There are no regulations (FDA or otherwise) for the making of health claims in the U.S.A. Companies do it all the time from toothpaste makers to humidifiers to cleaning agents.

3) Rexair is certainly not alone in making shaky claims about the cleaners performance or abilities. They all do that whether door-to-door, outlet, or mass market.

I hope we don't allow the Rainbow bashers to cloud our views.


Post# 411998 , Reply# 6   7/24/2019 at 23:19 by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

It's curious that you bring up the Carpet and Rug Institute (cRI). Yes, the Rainbow meets the Silver criteria. The Sirena meets the criteria to be gold rated. Most Riccars meet the Gold criteria. With the belt running down the middle of the power nozzle, there is huge dead space. Am I wrong to expect excellence from a vacuum that sells for nearly $3000?



Post# 412007 , Reply# 7   7/25/2019 at 09:45 by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
Belt in the middle?

Ralph123, are you referring to the video that was found on Facebook? In my opinion, it's hard to guess what to expect when all we have to look at is an animated video rendering. This could just be what they used for the cut-away image of the power nozzle just for the video production. It could be very different when it's actually available for sale.

Also, I have to wonder exactly how far along they really are in the development process, especially considering that they only filed for the SRX name in February 2019.

I think Rainbow is accomplishing exactly what so man other companies tend to do: generating interest by getting the public whipped into a frenzy and releasing sneak peeks on the internet. I mean, did you see that crowd? They were jumping up an down and screaming like they had the Holy Ghost in them at some "mega-church"! LOL

I'm hoping for the best in their power nozzle design. Regardless, there's still plenty to look forward to with their other improvements. I just hope it's not an anti-climactic vacuum release, like the Avalir was.


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Post# 412008 , Reply# 8   7/25/2019 at 10:25 by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

Iím referring to the current model. I have no knowledge of the future model.

Post# 412012 , Reply# 9   7/25/2019 at 14:24 by Juju93 (florida)        

I canít wait to get my hands on one of these things. Iím curious to when itíll become available in the central Floria area. As for the belt being put on the center of the nozzle, they did that with the E2 Black model. When the E2 Black came out in 2011 they had the belt on the side of the nozzle and within the past few years they changed that to put it on the center of the nozzle. So Iím assuming they decided to keep it on the center of the nozzle. Iím also curious to see what the owners manual will look like, as well as the optional accessories.

Post# 412015 , Reply# 10   7/25/2019 at 16:34 by Dysonman1 (Missouri Ozarks)        

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Rexair makes only one model at a time. Every single one of the machines in their current main warehouse must be sold before a single new one will be released. Thatís just business. There might be thousands of the current one that have to be sold first. Or, for all we know, they might only have two or three left of the current style. I was at the rainbow world conference when they debuted the E-series. We had to sell all of the D4 performance edition models before the salesman could get their hands on the new model.

Post# 412017 , Reply# 11   7/25/2019 at 19:34 by Juju93 (florida)        

Well hopefully they donít have many E2 Black machines left in there warehouse and that theyíve already started production of the new model.

Post# 412019 , Reply# 12   7/25/2019 at 20:24 by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )        

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Why did the other thread get deleted.

Post# 412026 , Reply# 13   7/25/2019 at 23:43 by beagledad (Florida)        

The current power nozzle has the belt on the side where it should be. The first version of the power nozzle for the current rainbow had it in the center. Moving it to the side was a big improvement. I'm hoping the new power nozzle keeps the belt on the side. Otherwise I will pass. They should add height adjustment too. Or better yet, outsource it to Wessel Werk and equip the new Rainbow with the EBK360.

Post# 412247 , Reply# 14   7/31/2019 at 10:49 by juju93 (florida)        

any news on the new model?

Post# 412250 , Reply# 15   7/31/2019 at 15:44 by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

Itís too bad that they donít unload the old models at Costco. rexair would never agree to more reasonable prices or returns.

Post# 412324 , Reply# 16   8/3/2019 at 08:56 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
why

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was the other thread deleted? I never saw it.

Post# 412326 , Reply# 17   8/3/2019 at 09:53 by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
speculation

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I'm guessing the old thread was deleted due to a complaint from Rexair, since the information about the SRX is not yet public and it being posted on a public forum they probably threatened to sue the webmaster for it. Most likely because it may effect the sales of the Current E2 black, if people know a new model is just around the corner. But again just speculation.

Post# 412327 , Reply# 18   8/3/2019 at 10:28 by Juju93 (florida)        

Yeah but people are going to post it on really any type of online stuff, especially on Facebook. Speaking of Facebook does anyone know what Facebook group the new model is mentioned in, such as videos, photos, etc? Also does anyone know when this new model is suppose to be available for purchase? If you look on google images thereís a few (not many) of the new SRX model.

Post# 412328 , Reply# 19   8/3/2019 at 10:53 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
OH MY G

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I google image searched and I found the picture that must have been linked to the thread that was deleted. Anyway, from what I can see, it looks like the E3 Black only silver in color. That hose looks different. Can you imagine buying a new Black rainbow, then the next day they came out with a new model? I'd be MAD LOL

Post# 412333 , Reply# 20   8/3/2019 at 12:28 by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
group

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As far as I know there isn't a group for it and if there is it's probably closed to all but rainbow dealers. I found what I could find by searching Rainbow SRX on facebook. There (to my knowledge) isn't a public group for it. You may see posts from people if you're lucky.

Post# 412342 , Reply# 21   8/3/2019 at 15:30 by Juju93 (florida)        

I just want to know a few things about the new model and hopefully someone (rather it be here or not) can help answer some of my questions.
1. Will there be a 4qt water basin option for this model?
2. Will there also be a 14ft hose option available too?
4. How quiet is it on the highest 4 setting? Like is it louder than a Dyson cordless, or quieter?
5. How much will it cost to get one with all of the optional accessories (AquaMate, RainJet complete, rainbowmate, MiniJet and whatever else is new with it)...... in the central Florida region that is.
6. Speaking of the MIniJet did it get redesign since the hose connections on the new model got redesigned?

Also this is an off topic question but it can apply to any rainbow machine. Why is it that the sprayer isnít sold with the machine? And why is it not frequently mentioned as an optional attachment? Also is the rexafoamer basically a shampoo cap that you attach to the sprayer, if so why is it sold separately?


Post# 412343 , Reply# 22   8/3/2019 at 15:58 by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I'm guessing the old thread was deleted due to a complaint from Rexair, since the information about the SRX is not yet public and it being posted on a public forum they probably threatened to sue the webmaster for it.

No that isn't the reason at all. A few members had posted things in it that they regretted posting and asked me to delete that thread. If I was contacted by Rexair and they asked me to delete it I certainly would have out of respect for the company's private information, however this wasn't the case. That actually happened once on automaticwasher by Speed Queen and once they contacted me I immediately deleted the thread as it had pictures of a charts that were confidential that someone had got from an employee at SQ. There wasn't a threat of a law suit by SQ, they simply asked out of respect of their privacy that I remove that information. I was happy to oblige.

I felt really torn as to what to do about that previous thread, and I felt bad about having to delete it for reasons that shouldn't have happened in the first place. So feel free to re-create it here, I've already asked those involved that if they aren't comfortable with the thread to not post in it.


Post# 412348 , Reply# 23   8/3/2019 at 17:47 by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
oh! oops!

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😓 I guess that's where speculation gets me. Thank you for clarifying that.

But knowing that I'll re-post the image of it. Now that I see it again i'm sort of reminded of ritello


Post# 412350 , Reply# 24   8/3/2019 at 18:55 by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi Devin, I still don't think it's wise to be re-posting pictures that you didn't take when it's clear that the picture was probably taken without permission by the manufacturer, so to prevent this thread from having to be deleted as well I made the decision to delete the picture. If you took the picture yourself that would be a completely different situation.

Hope you guys understand.


Post# 412351 , Reply# 25   8/3/2019 at 19:35 by Juju93 (florida)        

When they launched this new machine did they discuss just the machine and everything that it does, or did they also discuss the optional tools for it too?

Post# 412353 , Reply# 26   8/3/2019 at 21:01 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I think they discussed everything

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It sounds like it's OKAY to post pics so I will post what I found. But if it's NOT ok. Feel free to delete this.


Post# 412358 , Reply# 27   8/3/2019 at 23:22 by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I think if you took the picture yourself than it's fine to post or if it's from an official release I think that would be okay. That's at least just for now.

Post# 412445 , Reply# 28   8/6/2019 at 10:19 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        
lets consider....

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car manufacturers don't desire that spy photographers take pictures of the new upcoming cars in developmental stage....yet people do it b/c the buying public WANT to know...a glimpse. Those big car companies don't/can't SUE someone..aka news shows or print magazines for posting photos they have of the 'mystery' car. So, why do we think a vacuum maker has different wants/legal standing? Anyone should be able to post info/photos of anything that's for sale or will be for sale or in development. perplexing......to realistically think otherwise....no?

Post# 412449 , Reply# 29   8/6/2019 at 11:32 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Good Point

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LOL, maybe it's a different animal with something sold door to door? LOL Not that that makes a difference. Anyway, I was thinking about when I was reading about the many new features of the new rainbow and it kind of surprised me that one of the features was NOT a self-cleaning separator. Not that I mind cleaning it but it would be kind of cool not to have to do that. Of course, I'm just basing that off the pic I saw of the new features and there were a LOT of new features. Wouldn't that be like a huge selling point especially since Hyla has had one forever.....I've never seen a video of someone taking a Hyla apart to see if they really can get dirty inside so I don't know.

Post# 412451 , Reply# 30   8/6/2019 at 13:01 by juju93 (florida)        

i just wish there was more videos of it, like a launch video. I aslo wished they discuessed if they did any updating to any of the optional accessories, or if they're lauching any new accessories.

Post# 412455 , Reply# 31   8/6/2019 at 16:58 by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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When the new Rainbow is officially launched for sale I am sure there will be lots of promotional material outlining all the new features. Be Patient!

Gary


Post# 412464 , Reply# 32   8/6/2019 at 21:47 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        
its coming.......

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its hard to have patience when you're so anxious for something!! haha. eh juju93?? heck, YOU'VE got ME excited for the official announcement/release now!! thanks a lot!

Post# 412465 , Reply# 33   8/6/2019 at 22:07 by juju93 (florida)        

look, the way i see it is like this. Yall know how ever September apple launches new products and then within a few WEEKS they're available in stores across the nation. I feel like rexair should've done that. When they launched the new SRX model they should've started shipment within that month and not decided to wait several months for shipment to start. I mean even kirby didn't do that when they launched the avalir 5 (can't believe its been that long) years ago. When they launch the avalir they started shipment within 2-3 months and so on. What I'm basically saying don't launch something if your going to wait to distribute it to the public several months later. I say several months later because according to others it won't be available till towards the end of the year. Do keep in mind that this got launch back in late may. Because of this you'll have potential customers holding out and not getting the current E2 Black for they may know about the new SRX and would prefer that. I know I would and I don't even own a rainbow, let alone used one. But when this new SRX comes out, I'll be getting one.

Post# 412512 , Reply# 34   8/8/2019 at 08:57 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
OK

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After digging I was able to find the facebook video. The crowd was going NUTS. It's so hard to tell but it looks redesigned COMPLETELY....I mean EVERYTHING! Again, hard to tell but I'm not sure I'm loving the graphics and the PN looks weird (again, hard to make a judgment yet) The water bath looked like it was going crazy with turbulence. The machine didn't look quite as large. The basin looked larger and almost a blue tint to it. The rainbow looks like it could lean back on the dolly without having to take the dolly off to remove the basin. The hose handle looked larger.

Post# 412519 , Reply# 35   8/8/2019 at 21:46 by cbimmer (USA)        

My parents still have the E Series they bought around 1999. I don't think it's been used since 2001 when they moved into their new house with a central vacuum. I remember what a chore it was to fill, empty, and clean the thing. I can't imagine using one with dogs that shed like mine do.

Post# 412630 , Reply# 36   8/12/2019 at 08:41 by juju93 (florida)        

so looking through the facebook search thing, it looks like the new SRX is available in the Asian markets. Why do we have to wait till the end of the year, if they already start selling it. I love the black and blue color combo with the new model.

Post# 412643 , Reply# 37   8/12/2019 at 20:53 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Maybe

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they sold out of the black models in Asia faster than the USA?

Anyway, I was wondering......when does Rexair cease making parts for any of their past model Rainbows? I'm not 100% sure, but I think someone who owns an SE can still get "genuine" parts... I guess my question is at what point does Rexair completely stop making parts for a past model? Kind of off topic, sorry. Just a random though I had.


Post# 412658 , Reply# 38   8/13/2019 at 08:16 by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        

I would imagine that some of those replacement parts are outsourced to third party manufacturers after a certain point. There are plenty of Rainbow-identical replacement tools out there, with the only difference being that they don't have the letter "R" marked on them. The last few times I tried to find a brand new genuine Rainbow straight suction rug nozzle, I could only find one that was off brand, but it was well made and looked like the original. This was even from a Rainbow dealer in the Houston TX area. 

Also, don't apologize for going "kind of off topic".  It gave us a well needed distraction. I welcome such distractions because we're obviously going to be waiting a while for Rainbow's new model. wink


Post# 412662 , Reply# 39   8/13/2019 at 09:15 by Dysonman1 (Missouri Ozarks)        

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I hope you guys who are chomping at the bit over this have been saving your pennies. Actually, saving your dollars is more like it. 3300 of them. Could be more depending upon where you live. The independent distributors are allowed to set their own pricing. I plan on waiting two years. They will be at the pawnshop for 200 bucks. Just like those Avalir 2ís. I bought an avalir 1 from Facebook marketplace for $85. The people hated it.

Post# 412663 , Reply# 40   8/13/2019 at 09:26 by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
Youíve got the right idea!

My e2 black that I bought in 2012 was a 1 year old bank repossession that I sniped on eBay for $600. Luckily, it had been well cared for and everything was with it including the RainJet and AquaMate. Some of those bank repos are not too pretty!

Post# 412666 , Reply# 41   8/13/2019 at 10:38 by juju93 (florida)        
kind of off topic

I can't wait to see what the website will look like with this new model as well as the "how to" videos. I'm curious to what optional attachments got changed/updated. I would assume the MiniJet would change due to the fact that the new SRX has a new hose connect function. As for the rainbowmate, I don't think that would get updated and I say this because it just got updated like not even 2 years ago.

Post# 412688 , Reply# 42   8/13/2019 at 17:28 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I've already been through this with the black model

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Since I bought my gold 2 speed in 2006....I was drooling over the black model, but even though I've used my Gold 2 speed a lot over the years, it still shines like new and there is no way I'm getting rid of it for a new model.......still, the new ones I can dream about. Rainbows are definitely my most favorite vacuum of all time.




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