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Post# 411410   7/11/2019 at 16:17 by cbimmer (USA)        

I'll be starting construction on a new home in about two years. It will have a central vacuum like my current house but I was wondering if it would be possible to install a truck mount type carpet extractor in a utility room. I would assume they could be connected or hardwired into a 220v outlet. And of course have a drain and water supply installed for it. This would seem like a very good way to clean large amounts of tile. Also good for cleaning carpeted room and car detaing.

Is such a thing feasible?





Post# 411412 , Reply# 1   7/11/2019 at 16:35 by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)        

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Never heard any one doing it but same system as a central vac maybe if its electric?

Post# 411414 , Reply# 2   7/11/2019 at 16:51 by cbimmer (USA)        

Yeah from what I understand the system is plugged into a separate generator when mounted in a van. I obviously wouldn't need the generator running it off of the household current. And if I put it in a place like the laundry room I was thinking I could run a small access shaft to the second floor so I could feed the hose and solution line up there. I realize those hoses are very long but would prefer not to drag them up the stairs.

Post# 411415 , Reply# 3   7/11/2019 at 17:19 by huskyvacs (Upper Midwest)        

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Those units are built to clean 100 homes or more a week, it would be way overkill for home use and be very noisy and take up extreme amounts of room and be very cumbersome just for a twice a year cleaning. You would be better off using just a normal off the shelf multi-surface shampooer.

Post# 411416 , Reply# 4   7/11/2019 at 17:20 by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)        

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They were Never design to be put in homes theres a reason they only fit in a van ITS not meant for house use pal.

Post# 411417 , Reply# 5   7/11/2019 at 17:27 by cbimmer (USA)        

There is no reason to be condescending. I'm not your "pal". There is obviously a market (however small it may be) for people like me since you see central vacuum systems like Aqua Air that can pick up water and have a hot water source. But I'm not convinced that sucking up water through the central vac pipes is a good idea. I'd be worried about sludge building up, odors, leaks... I would use the system to regularly clean the tiled surfaces every week. The units don't look to be any larger than a washer or dryer so space isn't that big of an issue.

Post# 411420 , Reply# 6   7/11/2019 at 18:22 by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        

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Look into the Aqua Air system if a central vacuum that can extraction clean carpeting is something you want.

Post# 411429 , Reply# 7   7/11/2019 at 23:07 by panasonicvac (Northern Arizona)        

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Maybe the Truck Mount Forums website would give you some ideas since they would know more about those extractors. If that wouldn't work out then maybe like the Drainvac Interceptor with the shampoo kit would be an alternative option since the water wouldn't go through the piping. Out of curiosity, what brand or type of central vacuum do you have in your current home and what you're planning on installing in your new home?

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Post# 411430 , Reply# 8   7/12/2019 at 01:01 by cbimmer (USA)        

Thanks for the link to that forum. I'll definitely take a look around there. I currently have a Vacuflo model 760. I'm happy with it but I've heard a lot of good things about MD central vacuums. Having a bagged system might be a nice change.

Post# 411432 , Reply# 9   7/12/2019 at 01:40 by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Hold up

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Let's not get testy. If you can afford it indulge. I'd say a mini version like a 10th the size.
I just had an idea on the machine for a business owner. The first vacuums I mean 1880 vacuums were huge. I haven't looked into it. I did watch American restoration on discovery channel. They have a shop on outskirts of Vegas. The cureator for Nevada museum had them build a vacuum for the train. It literally was a train car that was made into a vacuum.
I mean you could get rid of animals, people, anything you desire with it.
If you have a tool box it would swallow your tool set.
I'm not being mean. People buy things they don't need and never use. If you buy and use it more power to you. People have museums of cars they never drive. I see no problem with a big vacuum you use. I will never be in same earning bracket as you.
I have a few neighbors who are loaded. My next door neighbor has a room in their house that's a safe. They have people doing yard work 20 hours a week.
My other neighbor made a 30 foot high tower. It has 3 landings. (My backyard is the river). He put a tower on the other side of the river. It's a zip line. A $30k zip line.
So when I think of frivolous spending a large vacuum is something I'd do. Spend 30k on a freaking zip line never.
Buy it post video.
You could make a Zipline after a week no one uses.
Les


Post# 411437 , Reply# 10   7/12/2019 at 07:31 by Dysonman1 (Missouri Ozarks)        

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My husband‘s brother-in-law owns a truck mount cleaning the system. That’s how he makes his money. The engine of the truck idles constantly since it turns the suction pump. The clean water is pumped through a separate radiator where it is heated to near boiling. You probably do you not want a gasoline engine turning over in the garage while you clean. Since I am very interested in how these things are made, I have actually watched him and my father-in-law pull all the stuff out of one van and put it into another because the engine in the first van was going out from so much use. The suction pump, which uses a roots blower system consisting of two star shaped fans back to back one pulling and one pushing, produces a lot of pressure but minimal airflow. Perfect for shampooing carpets.

Post# 411441 , Reply# 11   7/12/2019 at 09:01 by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
I dont see why

It couldn't be done, Its not something I would want But I bet you don't want 500 mixers and a thousand vacuums LOL If you want it and can do it Go for it!


Post# 411443 , Reply# 12   7/12/2019 at 10:58 by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Well, just my $.02

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Although intended for commercial use, IF you're building a home, and, have the funds, and the desire................this IS America. Go ahead. Perhaps you have a need for that much power. It would certainly be considered a 'monster vac'. I'd imagine, if you had several dogs, etc.
People retrofit homes, appliances, and the like. I'd never do it. But, then, that's ME. MOST people wouldn't want MY home , either. But, I do. I know Greg Palmer was 'dreaming' about installing a Central vac system in my old place. It's a 12 room, 140 year old home. Imagine a central vac in here! It would be 'novel'. But, with over 400 Hoovers, it kind of IS central vac already.
It's not my place to judge.
Keep us 'abreast'.


Post# 411450 , Reply# 13   7/12/2019 at 14:00 by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

Here is a system that does it all.

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Post# 411455 , Reply# 14   7/12/2019 at 16:49 by cbimmer (USA)        

Thanks gottahaveahoove. Your house sounds really nice. And I'm sure a lot of character at 100+ years old. I love to to go explore old homes and buildings. That's how I met my former wife a few years ago. She was part of a team working to save an old department store and renovate it into apartments. She knows how to get things done but that also came with being very controlling. And I didn't take well to being "managed". So for my 30th birthday I got myself the gift of a divorce. Now it's me and my two dogs. And I'm happy with that. I have bought, renovated, and sold a lot of homes and so I'm looking forward to actually designing one for myself. I don't collect anything but I can appreciate the amount of care that you all put into it. The only thing I really have my heart set on for the new place is a Bosendorfer grand piano. Most are impeccably kept but I will still find an expert to go along with me to inspect them and make sure they have all of their genuine parts or were rebuilt per Bosendorfer's specs. Unfortunately there are some less than ethical piano dealers in the world.

Post# 411467 , Reply# 15   7/12/2019 at 22:29 by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        

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Chris - First of all, let me say welcome to Vacuumland. Nice to see a new poster with a very novel idea! :-) It's also nice to see that although you aren't a vacuum collector, you have respect for & understand why we do collect them. I personally got into vacuum collecting because my Mom was a professional housekeeper & was fixing her vacuums for her all the time, & 1 reason in particular was I was sick & tired of seeing all the cheaply made, poor quality garbage on the market that doesn't last & more importantly, doesn't even clean well! Not only was I interested in collecting them, but studying the different designs to find which designs actually work well.

However, I agree with some of the other posters here that, for your uses in a single family home, installing a truck mount extractor might be a bit overkill & could possibly be dangerous.

There is an alternative product, though, that I'm sure you hadn't considered. How about using a central vac wet/dry interceptor? Aqua Air makes one, & what it essentially is is a bucket with a hose on top to hook up to the central vac, & you hook up a long wet/dry hose to the front. It uses the suction & airflow from the central vac to pick up & separate the water, so you could use it for carpet extraction cleaning or floor cleaning like what you want to do with the truck mount installed in your house. You would use a faucet connector or have a connection installed on the water pipes under the sink to supply hot water.

The best part about going with the wet/dry interceptor is you can use it now, not wait until your new house gets built, it makes the best use of the central vac investment you already have, & no having to deal with electrical connections. When you build your new house, you could also justify using the wet/dry interceptor for getting a much more powerful central vac unit than your house would normally require, so when you do use the interceptor for carpet extraction cleaning it performs the best you can get out of it. If you dislike the thought of lugging up the interceptor & the equipment up a flight of stairs, you could always keep a set on each floor.

I also would consider going with a water filtration central vac system like Drainvac or Aqua Air when you build your house. Yes, I understand your concerns you expressed above about sludge buildup in the pipes & possible leaks. But I'm willing to bet that these systems don't use the standard central vac pipes - they likely use something that resists these problems - and also the installer the central vac dealer will refer you to will ensure these problems DO NOT happen after the central vac system is installed. I think the fact these systems have been around with these companies for decades now should say something about their quality, safety & effectiveness.

Best of luck in finding a solution that works for you & does what you need it to do.

Rob

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Post# 411469 , Reply# 16   7/13/2019 at 01:00 by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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Is it feasible? Oh please, ANYTHING is possible!

I suppose the real question is, do you HAVE a truck mount system to install? Because if you want to buy one new... Likely most of them are totally custom made for the vehicle, and if not, they'd be insanely high priced. We're talking like 20 or 30 grand.

If you DO have one, however, the only thing you'd need to worry about is how you'd make it work. Cuz a lot of those things will not just run on 220v, they will likely have a small gas engine running the pump and other things directly (sometimes running off of an extra accessory belt on the vehicle engine, or off of a PTO on the transmission), with perhaps a small generator to run a motor or something. Me, I'm not personally familiar with that kind of thing, but as a mechanic, I can tell you that things like that are almost always designed from the ground up to be installed on a motor vehicle. Now, none of that is a problem if you have the mechanical aptitude to MAKE it work.

That having been said, if you have the equipment and the know-how, go ahead. That'd be awesome, actually.


Post# 411471 , Reply# 17   7/13/2019 at 02:12 by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Most of the truckmount units have their own gas or diesel motor to power the suction hose,the solution pump and the motor heats the water from the engine coolant,exhaust manifold,and vacuum extraction pump.The unit is selected based upon the fuel the host truck uses.Really NOT practical to install in a home.I don't know of electric units-have heard of units that run from the trucks PTO-they don't have their own engine.And you need a truck that has the PTO.This is usually special or optional equipment.

Post# 411472 , Reply# 18   7/13/2019 at 03:32 by cbimmer (USA)        

Hmm, thanks for the information. I just assumed there was a separate generator on the van and the unit just plugged into it. It would be an interesting dilemma for a cleaning company that wanted to use electric vehicles.

It does look like MYTEE offers an electric quasi-truck mount. It can be moved but I would look at securing it in a garage or utility room. It runs off of two 230v outlets.



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Post# 411477 , Reply# 19   7/13/2019 at 13:06 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
I would suggest this Drainvac unit

Here is the unit I would suggest for your new home. You actually use the same pipe as other central vacuums. If you're worried about sludge building up, just vacuum some clean water through the pipes, that should clean them out.
Mike


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Post# 411498 , Reply# 20   7/14/2019 at 01:18 by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Thank YOU, Chris!

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I was the house manager of an art deco movie theatre turned into a civic center. WE had to get a Bosendorfer.WOW! TherehIS a dealer near Philadelphia. That odd 89th key!




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