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Post# 408923   4/30/2019 at 21:40 (1,822 days old) by Luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

I found this Electrolux Regency Series upright vacuum, model 1572E at a thrift store this week. I tested it in the store and the carpet setting on the switch wouldn’t engage the brush roller. Probably the reason it was taken to the thrift store in the first place. But, I figured for the $6.98 price tag, I could tinker with it. Turns out, just the switch had some slight corrosion or dirt on it and some Deoxit spray sorted it out. The vacuum was a bit scuffed up but I was able to remove a lot of them with a magic eraser.

The brushroll was in pretty good shape and it seems to pick up as well as my Epic upright. Overall, I think it was a pretty good deal! It even came with 6 generic bags.
Can anyone tell me when this cleaner was made?


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Post# 408924 , Reply# 1   4/30/2019 at 21:58 (1,822 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada)        

I'd like to learn more about ELectrolux upright, I haven't own any. I wonder if they do a decent cleaning job.

Post# 408933 , Reply# 2   5/1/2019 at 07:24 (1,822 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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Very good machines. I always found them a bit too cumbersome for daily use, but I enjoy mine nonetheless.

Post# 408934 , Reply# 3   5/1/2019 at 07:32 (1,822 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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Since the cord plugs in to the bulkhead it's 1989 or 1990
In 1991 they went to the cord coming out of the handle.


Post# 408935 , Reply# 4   5/1/2019 at 07:57 (1,822 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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But, wasn't there a recall to change that somehow?

Post# 408936 , Reply# 5   5/1/2019 at 08:08 (1,822 days old) by Paul (USA)        

Congratulations.

To add to the info. above, the RS was Electrolux Corporation's premium store line, sold from c.1987 to c.1992. It included 9 amp. economy (RS 1000) and automatic (RS 2000) tanks and a shampooer/polisher along with the upright. Around 1989 they put a HP 10-amp. motor in the automatic model & named it RS 1500 (discontinuing the 2000).

Along with the changes in cord attachments I've seen RS uprights with 8.1 amp and 8.5 motors (probably upgraded around 1989 with the 10 amp. ones). You can see which yours has by looking at the specs on the hood. The nozzle was also changed when new models of the tank power nozzles were introduced. Earlier ones were similar to PN6As and later ones were like 6Bs or 7Bs). Some customers also opted to purchase the onboard tool caddy set shown in the users manual.


Post# 408937 , Reply# 6   5/1/2019 at 08:16 (1,822 days old) by Paul (USA)        
Re: Reply 4

David,

You're correct. The top-corded style was named "ponytail". See the November 10, 1998 article below from www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/1998...

WASHINGTON, D.C. - In cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), Electrolux, L.L.C., of Atlanta, Ga., is recalling about 226,000 Ponytail Top-Corded Handle Upright Vacuum Cleaners. The power cords on these vacuums extend out of the very top of the handle, and the cord is often used as an extension of the handle. The power cord can break inside the handle or the casing around the cord can break, and cause shocks or burns to the user's hand. Even when there is no apparent breaking of the casing around the cord, these vacuums can still cause injuries.

Electrolux is aware of at least 75 reports of the cords on these vacuums breaking or the casing around the cord exposing wires. About half of these incidents reportedly resulted in burns or shocks to users. Of these reports, there were 11 serious injuries which included consumers suffering second or third degree burns, shocks, or a combination of these injuries.

The Ponytail vacuums were sold under the following names:

Genesis
Prolux S/R
Genesis LX
Prolux Warehouse
Genesis LXE
Regency
Prolux
Special Edition
Prolux Plus

Only Electrolux upright vacuums with the cord coming out of the very top of the handle are included in this recall. "Electrolux" and the model name are written on each vacuum.

Most of these vacuums were sold through direct sales and retail stores, including Sam's Club, Service Merchandise and Macy's, between May 1991 and September 1993 for between $150 and $550, depending on the model and accessories. Some vacuums were sold directly to corporate customers.

Consumers should immediately stop using these vacuums, and return them to an Electrolux store for a free repair. The handle on the vacuum will be replaced with a new model handle. For more information and to find the Electrolux store nearest to you, call Electrolux at (800) 896-9756 between 8 a.m. and 6 p.m. EST Monday through Friday.

Picture of Ponytail Top-Corded Handle Upright Vacuum Cleaner



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Post# 408938 , Reply# 7   5/1/2019 at 08:45 (1,822 days old) by luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

Thanks for all the great information. Luckily, I have never come across any of the uprights with the ponytail cord connection. I recall reading a bad experience by someone on this forum with an Electrolux store regarding the recall and their refusal to honor the free repair.

Anyways, as Andy mentioned, these uprights are a bit cumbersome for daily use. The Epic series upright I have seems to weigh just as much. Overall, I think they clean well, but probably not as well on thicker carpet as say a Kirby. However, if one was using this on short pile carpet at home or in an office, it would be great.

Mine seems to be missing the cord wrap on the top of the handle. I only see one hole on the back of the handle, but I thought that the cord wraps had two screws on them, like the one here: evacuumstore.com/p-7360-electrol.... Or, was the cord wrap different altogether on these earlier models?


Post# 408939 , Reply# 8   5/1/2019 at 09:16 (1,822 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Has this machine been modified?

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I'm wondering if this machine might have originally had the 'ponytail' cord and was modified. Looking at the back of the handle in photo 7, there is a hole at the bottom of the handle where the cord now goes on my Genesis LXe. It originally had the 'ponytail', which was replaced by an Aerus dealer shortly after I acquired it. The machine in the photo has the cord connecting below the handle where my Genesis' accessory power port is located.

I also see that the upper cord hook is missing from the back of the handle. A screw hole is visible just below the hand grip where it should go. Interestingly, that hook is tack welded in place on my three uprights. While wrapping the cord around the handle itself as it is in the photo works reasonably well, care should be taken not to put too much tension on the cord as it could bend the handle back slightly, causing the bag door not to latch properly. I have this issue with my Discovery Plus but that is more an issue with the weight of the hose. On-board tool storage wasn't very well thought out on that machine.

All that said, I like the Electrolux uprights. I own three of them--a Discovery II that I rescued from the curb, a Discovery Plus with onboard tool storage and the aforementioned Genesis LXe. The only one I'm not all that fond of is the Discovery Plus because the onboard tools make it very ungainly. It's a cool concept but poorly executed. They're powerful cleaning machines, integrating the classic Electrolux tank and the Omniflow power nozzle into a single unit. If I had bought the OP's machine for $6.98, I would have been watching for the security guards on my way out the door because that was an absolute steal.


Post# 408940 , Reply# 9   5/1/2019 at 09:30 (1,822 days old) by Paul (USA)        
Re: Reply 1

Francois,

Aerus (Electrolux Corporation)'s L-shaped twin motor uprights were introduced in April 1986 and encompass many model numbers and model names. There have also been privately-labeled ones such as Veridian, ProTeam, Sanitaire, Pullman-Holt, etc.

Besides colors, differences I know of have included:

HOUSEHOLD

1) motors (original—8.1A, HP—8.5A, 9.5A , LF—10A, VM3—8.5A, JEI—8.5A 2004-present)
2) full bag indicator (earliest models don't have)
3) slider or rocker switch
4) nozzle style (air channels, metal to plastic intake crossbars)
5) reset button from back side to nozzle
6) headlight
7) single helix to double helix brush roll; the Lux 6000 also came with a extra stiff-bristled brush roll for awhile & it was an option for others
8) cord attachment (some hard-wired allowing open receptacle for Sidekick attachment and some plugged in receptacle)
9) 2-wire cord length (20', 25', 30', or 40'—Prolux industrial)
10) optional onboard tool caddy set
11) attached hose and small tool; differently-designed bag/motor housing (ProTeam? Lux 4000 & Lux 6000)
12) carrying handle

Color coordinated optional Accessory Kits may include: non-electric or electric hose, Sidekick, small combo tool, 4" crevice nozzle, 2 plastic wands


COMMERCIAL (joint production--ProTeam's power nozzle w/lighted system performance indicators (SPI) and handle grip; Electrolux's bag chamber/motor housing, handle, & carrying handle) with *50' 3-wire cord plugged in back (no Sidekick provision); no headlight

1) motors (ProTeam?—10A or current JEI—8.5A)
2) optional onboard tool caddy set (single wand holder due to switch placement)
3) attached hose and small tool; differently-designed (ProTeam?) bag/motor housing (Xtreme Plus retail model)

*I think the current iteration may only have a 35' cord.

Optional Storm Gray or black (current) Accessory Kits may include: fixed length or slinky hose; small combo tool, 4" crevice nozzle; 1 plastic wand


I've used two Lux Commercials, the Genesis LXe, and the Epic 3500SR. They perform ok, but the SPI indicator's red full bag light only flickers sometimes when the bag is full, and the 'self-adjusting' nozzle doesn't seem to clean deeply. Also, the hose ends must be frequently retightened or they'll detach, and the hose can easily get pulled out of the intake.



Post# 408941 , Reply# 10   5/1/2019 at 09:35 (1,822 days old) by Paul (USA)        
Re: Reply 8

Edgar,

You're correct, that the cord has been replaced from the original hard-wired to the plug-in type.

However, it didn't have the ponytail cord, which would have come out out the very top of the hand grip.


Post# 408943 , Reply# 11   5/1/2019 at 10:03 (1,822 days old) by Paul (USA)        
Re: Reply 7

Jason,

According to Jimmy ("rugsucker") the cord cleat on the first Discovery II, model 1500, was problematic, so the next model 1500C, corrected it. I'm not sure of the design details, but yours may have been made during the time of the 1500.


Post# 408945 , Reply# 12   5/1/2019 at 10:19 (1,822 days old) by luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

Thanks Edgar and Paul.

So, if I understand correctly, the power cord on my Regency was probably changed at some point? I didn't realize that the plug in cords were not original. I just figured this model and similar era Lux uprights came that way. I saw a few other Regency Series vacs online and they too had the same cord set up as mine, with the clear rubberized cord holder thing. There was also an odd cord wrap mechanism on the back of the handle. Perhaps this is what mine originally had?

megazakaz.com/ebay/product/19276...



Post# 408954 , Reply# 13   5/1/2019 at 14:00 (1,821 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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The original uprights (Discovery II, Plus and III) had the cord connecting where yours is and then it was later moved to the handle. On those earlier machines, there was an optional pyramid-shaped electrical adapter that went in between the power cord and the cleaner to provide a power output for an electrified cord to run a Sidekick. I lucked up on one of these to add that functionality to my Discovery II and would love to find one for my Discovery Plus. On later models like my Genesis LXe, the power cord was moved to the handle and what had previously been the power cord connector became the output for the Sidekick.

Post# 408955 , Reply# 14   5/1/2019 at 14:32 (1,821 days old) by luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

Ah, I see now. Well, I think I will gift this vacuum to my aunt who has several indoor animals. Her Oreck appears to have bit the dust and she was given a loaner Oreck from my parents. I think this Electrolux will clean the carpets better as her house basically has nothing but carpet throughout, save for a couple rooms with linoleum.

Post# 408958 , Reply# 15   5/1/2019 at 16:38 (1,821 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Regency upright

These are nice vacs,easy to use,easy to change bag,very few belt problems.Above Elux looks good with much life left.
The cord would be original but should be pushed further down as white label instructs.The rubber cord retainer should be moved up to about 2-3 inches under plastic handle.Not sure if upper plastic hand grip was changed but rotating upper hook is missing as often happens if it is turned to the left which loosens the screw.Any Elux rotating cord hook could be used to replace hook,washer,spring washer and screw on above vac.


Post# 408971 , Reply# 16   5/1/2019 at 19:58 (1,821 days old) by Luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

Thanks Jimmy. I tried pushing the plug connector down further into the bulkhead, but it will not seat any further. I did however manage to slide the rubber cord holder further up the vacuum handle. I may call the local Aerus store to see if they have a spare cord hook.

Post# 408980 , Reply# 17   5/1/2019 at 21:41 (1,821 days old) by Paul (USA)        

You're welcome, Jason.

Jimmy's information is some of the most reliable, because he has worked for so long with many of the Aerus (Electrolux) models, so I yield to him.

I also appreciate that he's always respectful and doesn't try to start or participate in arguments with others who give incorrect information or who have different opinions as he has once again proven in this thread (thanks, Jimmy).

I mistakenly took the hole of the cord 'cleat' (Aerus's term) to be the hole for the cord; so, yes, your cord is original. Sorry about that.

I think the cord was first designed to be hard-wired on the Genesis 1572F, which was introduced c.1990 and was equipped with the 9.5A motor.

In case your aunt has a need for a Sidekick for cleaning hair from the furniture, here's a link to the Discovery III Adapter Kit (service number 43542) currently listed on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Discovery-III-E...

Although its casing is taupe to match the DIII 1572E, it would still be compatible with the RS. Fyi, I have seen light sand gray ones, too, that would match the RS and others. In fact, I had an opportunity to purchase a Discovery Advantage 1572E with one attached at a thrift store, but I passed on it. I ended up getting a Genesis LXe 1717 another time, though, so I'm not disappointed.

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I neglected to mention before that my GLXe does have the 'dreaded' ponytail cord; but since someone had cable-tied the first part of it to the handle, it works just fine.

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Ideas to help make an Aerus (Electrolux) upright a top performer:

1) Remove the brush roll to clean the bristles, the roll, and the bearings. Replace if bristles are short, too soft/deformed, or bearings are gummy.
2) Clean out the inside of the nozzle and brush motor.
3) Check air duct for holes or cracks and make sure it's secure at both ends. Replace if necessary.
4) Add a foam filter (if none is present) in the bottom of the bag compartment to prevent any contaminants from a leaky or broken bag to enter the suction motor. If there is a filter, make sure it's clean.
5) Avoid using the blue Home Solutions bags due to leakage issues. I use 4-ply aftermarket ones that have better air flow and contaminant retention performance.
6) Always ensure that the bag door is closed tightly.
7) Oil the detents and wheel shaft.
8) Check/tighten nozzle, bag door hinge, and handle screws.
9) Clean and lube suction motor.


Post# 409003 , Reply# 18   5/2/2019 at 10:19 (1,821 days old) by luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

Thanks Paul! These are great tips! The wheels actually don;t turn as easily as they should so I'll be sure to oil them..what do you use.. something like 3-in-1 oil or more of a bearing grease?

The local Aerus store said they can fit me a cord holder on it, so I'll take it by sometime.


Post# 409006 , Reply# 19   5/2/2019 at 11:30 (1,821 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
--wheels--

For rear wheels you must remove them after taking off base cover and lifting lower body away from base.Then clean and lube with small amount of grease,vaseline,etc.For front rollers lift axles with side of flat screwdriver,clean possible strings/debris,clean axles and lube with small amount of oil.If metal axles have a groove worn into them turn over so rollers will have a new surface to ride on.

Post# 409012 , Reply# 20   5/2/2019 at 13:05 (1,820 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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Another maintenance tip: When I took my Genesis LXe in for its recall handle swap to get rid of the 'ponytail' cord, the Aerus tech told me to keep a dab of petroleum jelly on the two spots at the top of the base where it comes in contact with the upper tank to keep it in the upright position for storage. Those spots need a little lubrication to prevent them from binding and possibly breaking something when you pull the handle down into its operating position. We are dealing with 30-year-old plastic, after all. It doesn't have to be done very often but when it starts to get a bit stiff, it's time for some fresh lube.

FYI on the Genesis and other models with the 'ponytail' recall: Aerus is still honoring that recall at no charge but the handle they put on probably won't match your machine. Mine is dove gray and doesn't match the machine's slate blue and putty gray color scheme (see photo). Also, it has a three position rocker switch instead of the older style sliding switch and it doesn't work as well. More often than not, the machine won't turn on if I move the switch just one click from the 'off' position to the 'I' (suction only) position. I have to go another click to the 'II' (suction and brushroll) position and then back to the 'I' position if I don't want to use the brush roll. It annoys me because the original switch on the 'ponytail' handle worked perfectly. I kind of regret having the repair done as mine didn't have the damage that prompted the recall. Apparently some people would use the cord as an extension of the handle (push the machine forward, let go of the handle to allow it to roll a little farther, then pull it back by the cord). Over time, this would cause damage to the cord where it joined the handle, leaving exposed wires for a shock hazard. If I had it to do over again, I probably would have just kept the original handle, especially since it took the better part of half a day to drive the 100-mile round trip to the nearest Aerus dealer. I found it asinine that the company wouldn't just send the part directly to me. The handle and cord assembly only requires rudimentary screwdriver skills to swap.

The photo below shows the new handle on my Genesis LXe, which has the cord coming into the bottom of the hand grip and the upper cord cleat mounted about midway up the handle shaft, approximately where the little screw hole is on the original poster's handle. That's why I suggested may have been swapped out at some point, whether for the recall or some other reason.


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Post# 409025 , Reply# 21   5/2/2019 at 18:35 (1,820 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Electrolux upright

Good advice above.Handle should lock securely in storage position and pull back easily to use.
Good theory that something on the handle assembly has been changed.But the rotating cord hook in reply 20 would only have 2 small holes for fasteners that lock in place with push pins.


Post# 409035 , Reply# 22   5/3/2019 at 07:24 (1,820 days old) by luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

Edgar,

Regarding your switch, I wonder if cleaning the contacts on the switch would allow it to start working again. Than was the issue with the RS I picked up. Cleaning it with a few sprays of Deoxit fixed the switch. Although, yours could be an electrical issue. Did you try replacing the switch?

The older style cords which plug into the bulkhead seem more robust (maybe less wear and tear). I prefer that to the type that exit out of the upper handle.


Post# 409038 , Reply# 23   5/3/2019 at 08:50 (1,820 days old) by Paul (USA)        

You're welcome for the info, Jason. As before, I yield to Jimmy's experience and knowledge; but the former Aerus guy I know suggested Tri-Flow, so I've been using that along with grease and pj.


Thanks for the info & instructions for lubricating the wheel axles, Jimmy.

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Re: Reply 20

" ... the Aerus tech told me to keep a dab of petroleum jelly on the two spots at the top of the base where it comes in contact with the upper tank ... "

The metal catches are called 'detents' (see number 7 in my tips in reply 17). Keeping them greased really improves their performance!


Edgar,
It's good to know that Aerus will still honor the replacement of the ponytail handle, but I agree with you about keeping it. I think mine is pretty safe with the cable tie and don't see the need for replacement; especially since the new color wouldn't match.


Post# 409042 , Reply# 24   5/3/2019 at 12:06 (1,820 days old) by luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

So, I went by the local Aerus store today and picked up a new brushroll, belt and the cord holder. I understood they would be more expensive than online stores when it comes to parts, but I didn't realize brushrolls were $50. I would rather support a local store but that was a lot to swallow! Can franchises charge whatever they want for parts or does that seem in line with what other Aerus stores would charge?

Post# 409058 , Reply# 25   5/3/2019 at 19:28 (1,819 days old) by Paul (USA)        

That's not right. I bought a couple of the double-helix style on eBay about a year ago for under $20 apiece. The thing is, Aerus outsources all its products anyway; there is no OEM product anymore. So why the price gouging? Because many have no clue; including some who sell Aerus products.

One of Aerus's problems is the franchise system that replaced corporate-owned branch offices about 20 years ago. According to those familiar with the old arrangement, everything had a fixed price. Since the new system, though, each franchise or independent contractor can set its/their own prices. There may be guidelines but that's it.

Further, Aerus associates are not typically interested in making customers happy, but just selling new products. I get that to a point, but today's popular consumer mindset is to throw away and buy new anyway; so the small percentage of us who want to fix and keep is not going to put them out of business. But their lack of customer satisfaction will.

I've contacted more than a few franchisees who want to do all the talking and are put out if I ask for NLA new or used parts even if they're just sitting around waiting for the phone to ring (I could understand if I were interrupting sales transactions or busy schedules). They also don't like accommodating color requests; for instance seeing nothing wrong with putting a black cord cleat on a fog-colored handle.

Of course, there are some out there who price their items competitively and fair and who do their best to ensure that customers are so happy that they will come back and recommend them to friends and family.

Sorry you didn't find that type.



Post# 409070 , Reply# 26   5/3/2019 at 23:40 (1,819 days old) by Luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

Well, the folks in the Aerus store here are generally nice, but are also quick to tell you this or that about your "old" vacuum. They mostly want to sell you a new machine, and I understand that to a degree. They are in business after all to make money. They did have a genuine Aerus cord cleat, but it was white instead of the original blue, which I'm sure is no longer manufactured. What is interesting though is that they charged $10 for the cord cleat, which is much cheaper than the online stores wanted. Just the brushroll was pricey. After they realized I wasn't there to buy a new cleaner, they didn't pressure me any further and were happy to sell me the parts. They did offer to install them but I declined since it is a simple task I can do myself.

It was worth going into the store though to see a fully restored Electrolux CB vacuum sitting in the corner! And they have about every single Electrolux model ever made on display!


Post# 409074 , Reply# 27   5/4/2019 at 01:02 (1,819 days old) by Paul (USA)        

I'm glad you had a pleasant experience with the Aerus associates. Many are, indeed, nice but mercenary nonetheless. Have you thought about painting your white cleat with paint formulated for plastic?

Aerus would do well to return to a universal, standard pricing system. In addition, the company would benefit as a whole if it developed a shared database of NLA stock to which each franchise would contribute and have access, to better accommodate customers who desire them.

One of the Aerus franchisees I dealt with did go the extra mile for me, when I was looking for such a part. He bought it from another franchisee and sold it to me with the shipping charge. So two franchisees and the customer were all winners, and an item that was just sitting on a shelf collecting dust is now being put to use. Also, I've given the franchisee business since.

On the other hand, another local Aerus franchisee, who's a fast, smooth talker as well as being patronizing and obnoxious is one that I wouldn't patronize even if he had a NLA for which I was looking. It's just not worth the extra time listening to his spiel and having to endure his jabs; besides, I'm sure he'd price gouge. One time I was there he went out and yelled at a neighboring business's customer who'd parked in a stall in front of his store.

While that last one is an extreme, my overall experience with Aerus has not been positive; sorry to say.


I'm sure your local franchise's model collection was quite amazing. The franchises I've been in only have a few vintage cleaners displayed such as the Model XXX, a Model G, a Model 1205 and a Model Super J 1401. None have any vintage accessories or shampooer/polishers.

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Btw, is your RS an 8.1A or 8.5A? I just noticed a Special Edition 1572E (with ponytail) on eBay with the 8.5A. It seems the upgrade occurred around 1990 with the HP tank motors.


Post# 409097 , Reply# 28   5/4/2019 at 22:14 (1,818 days old) by Luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

Hi Paul. Yeah, sorry your overall experience wasn't positive at Aerus franchises. Actually, the white cleat didn't bother me after it was installed. I believe the RS was the 8.1A version, but it seemed to have pretty good suction nonetheless. I have heard that suction wasnt the best when the accessory hose was used, but on my Epic upright, it seems decent. Though that model had the port for the sidekick, which the RS doesnt have. I took it to my aunt and she felt like it was a better cleaner than the Oreck commercial she has. The RS seems to be more aggressive on the carpet now that I replaced the brushroll and belt. I'll see if I can find the accessory hose and other attachments for it.


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