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Thread Number: 38218
/ Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
Kirby 562 Q's |
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| Post# 406868 3/18/2019 at 15:04 (1,865 days old) by leoleonardo (Mars) | ||
I just snagged a really nice Model 562 off CL. Seems to have the original bag (circle Kirby logo, close together), a white cord, and all the accessories with the box. Manual with it is for a Sanitronic 50 which is what the add was actually for, but I think the seller just went off the manual not the data plate.
It runs, everything looks well for it's age but there's two Q's I have. The bag has a small wear area that has resulted in a tiny hole. It's right where the bag meets the emptor. If I was to carefully clean the bag by hand and patch it, would you think that would hold? What methods of cleaning would you recommend? I was just going to use warm water hand wash and then use a peel and stick type patch to the inside of the bag. The white cord is in good shape with no cuts but it's fairly dingy. What's the best/safest method of cleaning the cords? I'll post some photos of it and exactly what I'm talking about here soon. | ||
| Post# 406881 , Reply# 1 3/18/2019 at 16:27 (1,865 days old) by hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida) | ||
562 
Congratulations on your find! The white cord is a very big plus on that model!
I’ll attach a couple of pictures of mine so you can see how what I’m recommending worked for me... I soaked the cord in a purple power solution (can buy at any auto parts store and even dollar general). Wipe down with a soft sponge (warm-hot water) and of course make sure it is completely dry at the ends before reinstalling. The bag... I just spent a lot of time carefully vacuuming it, inside and out, but if you have a hole that close to the bag spring, it may be difficult to get inside - don’t t remove it, as it may tear. I have a seamstress nearby who has helped with small holes/tears on a couple of bags and the work she did come out fantastic (you couldn’t tell anything had been done) and she only charged $8. I’ve not tried inside patches, so I’m not any help with that, but that’s a good idea. Looking forward to seeing pics of your new treasure! The 562 is one of my favorite machines! The white cord really sets it off, and they aren’t too easy to come by anymore. | ||
Post# 406894 , Reply# 2 3/18/2019 at 20:56 (1,865 days old) by rivstg1  (colorado springs) |
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hmc1991: nice pics of your vac, well represented there!
leoleonardo: goo off' does the trick...so does acetone, but if you do use them, follow up with a silicone protective spray for viny/plastics. I find that aggressive cleaner does the job fast!! I haven't made the stitching repairs to know if they'll hold, b/c, I just installed a hepa cloth bag over the emptor for great filtering while keeping the stock look of the original bag. | ||
| Post# 406900 , Reply# 3 3/18/2019 at 23:23 (1,865 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
For the cord, I'd try soap and water first. Hot water and purple power sounds like a great idea. I would try alcohol before acetone - because acetone is harsh - but it may come to it, and that's fine. rivstg1 is right, aggressive cleaners do the job fast, and acetone *will* work. I would use a paper towel only just damp with acetone. Try not to soak the cord in acetone.
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Post# 406904 , Reply# 4 3/18/2019 at 23:52 (1,865 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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I agree on not soaking in acetone | ||
| Post# 406935 , Reply# 5 3/19/2019 at 12:59 (1,865 days old) by leoleonardo (Mars) | ||
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I've washed the cord in Simple green/dish soap. Dried. Then washed it in Purple Power. Rinsed and it looks 100x better now. I may do another run through before I treat it. I did have some purple power on my hands and touched the housing of the vac though, shoulda been more careful as Purple Power doesn't like Aluminum. I'm hoping some fine wet sanding then the buffing will remove the mark left by the Purple Power, it's not much though and only on the rear housing of the vac.
I've gotten most of the vac apart and wiped down, Still trying to figure out how the motor casing comes off to expose the motor. rivstg1, can you elaborate on what bag you used? Like, you used a hepa bag as a pre filter of sorts lining the inside of the original kirby bag? Any info on this? I know it can be converted to throw away bags but I'd rather keep it a shakeout. hmc1981, my 562 looks exactly like yours but the handle is a lighter brown with the faint flecks in it, and the trim where the bag meets the emptor is the same color as the other trim and bag topper. I'm picking up some polish compound today to cut the oxidation. Any suggestions? Hopefully I'll have some pics of it all shiny and back together minus the bag by today assuming I can get the motor apart and cleaned lol. | ||
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Post# 406942 , Reply# 6 3/19/2019 at 14:47 (1,864 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles) |
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| Post# 406952 , Reply# 7 3/19/2019 at 17:14 (1,864 days old) by hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida) | ||
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Purple Power
Oops. I should have mentioned that you don’t want it touching the aluminum, but you shouldn’t have to do any sanding - when it happened to me, I just used some Mother’s mag and aluminum polish and presto!
Depending on condition of the aluminum, you may get by using just 0000 steel wool and elbow grease. If that doesn’t cut it, you’ll have to use a buffing wheel likely. The trim on the 562 is unique. Share some pictures of yours. We’d all love to see it... even before polishing. | ||
| Post# 406956 , Reply# 8 3/19/2019 at 18:26 (1,864 days old) by leoleonardo (Mars) | ||
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Lol, No worries, I knew Purple power was harmful to Aluminum. I mean, it says don't use it on car rims n stuff like that. Just had some left on my hands by accident. I'm sure it will come off with buffing. I have a drill buffing kit and a wide arrangement of wet sandpaper.
here's what I'm working with. It's almost all taken apart except the motor is still in the housing, trying to get it out, and the bag is still fully assembled until I decide how to proceed with that. As you can see though, none of the trim is cracked or brittle, that surprised me as I've seen that around the light housing especially. ------------ side note - I like this forum, it's a nice resource and amazes me it's active. But I've noticed a few small issues that stem from it's older platform design. For instance, there is no difference between a .JPEG and a .JPG. They are the same image container format just using one less character for the file extension. It's odd this site restricts the file extension to .JPG only when .JPEG, .JPE, and others are the same container. In order to upload my .JPEGs I had to manually delete the E and make them .JPGs. if you wish to use Jpgs and Gifs, the site should search for all file extensions of those two file formats. The password field only allows 10 characters it seems. When typing in a password while making an account, it doesn't actually tell you that you've hit a character limit for the password, it lets you keep typing but doesn't input anything extra past the 10 characters. The "Forgot password" section of the login doesn't work either. It doesn't actually email your password or pass reset information to your email on file. There is also a few typos on that password recovery screen. | ||
| Post# 406958 , Reply# 9 3/19/2019 at 19:46 (1,864 days old) by hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida) | ||
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Some of the best places you’ll go have some fairly obvious flaws...
Anyhoo... I’d not recommend removing that bag. If you can find a good replica then go ahead, otherwise, it’ll likely tear upon reinstallation. That specific bag won’t be easy to find on its own. If you do find one, it’ll likely be attached to another machine - it’s all about how far you are willing to go. I’d take it into a seamstress and tell her what’s going on and see what can be done. I’ve had great luck myself with that. There is a product called Bish’s adhesive glue. I have a spare bag on an emtor (bag that I tore reinstalling) and tried it just to see. I’ll attach a pic. I didn’t have it in me to throw it away, so I gave this product a shot. It’s sitting in my closet, as I don’t need it just have it. Anyway, I personally wouldn’t touch that bag if what you are after is keeping it. You’ll have to find a way to have it mended with it staying on the emtor. Good looking machine by the way! Look forward to seeing it when it’s finished! Also, why do you want to remove the field and armature so bad? | ||
| Post# 406959 , Reply# 10 3/19/2019 at 20:08 (1,864 days old) by leoleonardo (Mars) | ||
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Thanks for the pics. I'll let ya guys know what I end up doing with the bag, I may even leave it as is, and just get a new bag and keep the other one to keep it original since the bag overall is in very good shape.
I want to remove the motor entirely to clean and service it. Love working on small motor machines. It's pretty nasty in there and needs a cleaning. When I picked it up, it was fairly full of cobwebs n stuff. some of the wires are pretty nasty too and I'd like to either replace with same gauge or clean the buildup off them. I have a solder station but so far everything seems to just be crimped together which is nice lol, Just gotta figure out how to get the motor out entirely. I'm assuming it pulls out from the front with the metal fan and all, but not sure how to free it. | ||
| Post# 406963 , Reply# 11 3/19/2019 at 20:49 (1,864 days old) by hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida) | ||
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With fan removed, and motor in the casing, you remove the motor from the inside (if that makes sense). Be careful about the rear bearing. It’s hard giving advice on this because I don’t really know anyone’s level of expertise aside from my own - I can only see with my eyes and no one else’s. Usually I just blow it out and replace/repack bearings and replace carbon brushes as needed - these motors rarely need work. Clean commutator. That’s just me. The way you have it apart shows you know what you are doing. Mainly, just be careful with the bag - try patching it from the inside like you mentioned. May be awkward, but when it’s said and done, you’ll have an awesome machine. The 562 was made for only one year, and though many were made, not many are left are original and polished up/clean. Keep us posted!
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Post# 406964 , Reply# 12 3/19/2019 at 22:08 (1,864 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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electrolux137: I"m appalled at my mistyping....I rarely contribute to this site via my cell phone....and it shows why dont do that....dang auto correct
"Just follow up with Mequiars vinyl & rubber or winery it similar.... that’ll put the needs Protestants back into he rubber to protect from drying out " should have stated, "...vinyl & rubber or whatever is similar ...that'll put the needed protectants back into the rubber to protect it from drying out'' correctly rebuked Kelton | ||
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Post# 406966 , Reply# 13 3/19/2019 at 22:16 (1,864 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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leoleonardo, | ||
| Post# 406984 , Reply# 14 3/20/2019 at 14:13 (1,863 days old) by Dandagreer (Nashville, TN) | ||
Bag conversion
For my 562, and all my pre-Tradition Kirby’s, I have fashioned my own bag conversion that works quite well. It involves a little sheet metal cutting with snips, but it’s pretty easy. And allows for modern Kirby HEPA bags to be used.
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| Post# 407003 , Reply# 15 3/20/2019 at 22:33 (1,863 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
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Post# 407006 , Reply# 16 3/20/2019 at 23:17 (1,863 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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love it | ||
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