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What year is this Royal Vacuum
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Post# 405638   2/18/2019 at 12:19 (1,894 days old) by lstidham18 (Michigan)        

Hello I have a Royal Commercial vacuum model #228 serial number 228-2207 it says 110 volt and 300 watts made by the P.A. Geier Co I am trying to find out what year this was made and what its value is.

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Post# 405642 , Reply# 1   2/18/2019 at 15:24 (1,894 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
lstidham

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Lisa,

This Royal appears to date from the 1920s or early 1930s... the bag I see was taken from a 1960s/'70s Royal Commercial upright cleaner.

~Ben


Post# 405656 , Reply# 2   2/18/2019 at 21:53 (1,893 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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Yeah the bag is not original. So it's not a 'Commercial' - in fact, it may not even officially be a 'Royal.' The model plate does say 'Sweep Action,' it might actually be called that. Hopefully someone else will chime in on this, but I seem to recall that PA Geier didn't use the 'Royal' name until the 40s. Not sure. Same company, anyway.

As for value, I'll just go ahead and imitate everyone else around here: it's worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

You can look on ebay and see a bunch of contemporary vacuum cleaners in similar condition, and see them priced between $100-300 (including the average $40 shipping), but - and it's a big 'but' - they stay listed for ages because nobody wants to buy them at those prices.

I think realistically you could probably get $40 - $60 for it, assuming you find someone interested. Sadly, shipping within 48 states is usually gonna be over $40, so not much profit margin there. I'm assuming you're looking to sell. If I were you, I'd wait a week to see if anyone here inquires about it, and maybe in the mean time, post an ad on craigslist, see if you get any bites.


Post# 405668 , Reply# 3   2/19/2019 at 02:40 (1,893 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
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I have a pa geier model 88 that is I believe 1923. I think yours was produced late 20s early 30s. I think the motor is either 2.5 or 3 amp. They used Watts until early to mid 40s but I believe 3 amps for vaccuums and 2 amps for hand vacs. I only say this because my geier handvac has 2 amp motor. It I believe is sister to model 88.
Les
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That is royal or pa geier the blue bag is original. The black and red bag in which I got on my 1949 royal 245. In 1962 a order catalog from blakeman appliance in California shows black and red bags were replacement bags on older machines up through 1962. I have been trying to upload a bunch of materials my desktop with new windows doesn't like me.
Les


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Post# 405688 , Reply# 4   2/19/2019 at 16:28 (1,893 days old) by lstidham18 (Michigan)        
Thank You!

Thank you for all your information I really appreciate it! You have been very helpful!


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