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Post# 405602   2/17/2019 at 17:05 (501 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

Has anyone seen or used this machine? If so, what do you think, is it decent?


Post# 405617 , Reply# 1   2/17/2019 at 21:44 (501 days old) by Holeefuk (Chai-nar qualitee...anything more = ip theft)        

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So it's a constellation, TriStar, airway mix? Things like $600 on Amazon.

I see 5ply HEPA bag available now, no sign of HEPA filtration or spare parts.

The power nozzle/brushroll seems interesting. Looks like you can pull it apart without a tool. No height adjust and "floating" in the carpet. What is the height clearance of this nozzle?

I like the central vac style handle, connection and electric hose. Is the hose at least 7feet?

No place to wind or retract the cord.


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Post# 405727 , Reply# 2   2/20/2019 at 16:01 (498 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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I'll have a video on it next week. I personally met with one of the principal owners of a company Ed at the VDTA . He loaned me one for long term testing.
So far I've been impressed and oddly enough my wife even noticed how cool this thing was. I believe it might even give the Miele C2 a run for its money at this price point.

This video goes live next Wednesday 2/27/2019

If you can't wait there's a version up on the patreon on the page.

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Post# 405738 , Reply# 3   2/20/2019 at 21:49 (498 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
power nozzle

Did they make their own power nozzle or did they use one of the third party ones? It really sounds like a nice machine as does the new Cirrus canister.

Post# 405748 , Reply# 4   2/21/2019 at 06:03 (498 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Never liked floating vacs without wheels. On bare floors they blast the surface dust around before you get a chance to suck it up. And the only way to get it to stop moving and stop hitting your feet is to forcefully pull up the canister onto a stretch of cord. Also, when the motor is off, you scratch the bare floor if you have to pull it to a new room or positioning. Not a big fan....pardon the pun.


Post# 405755 , Reply# 5   2/21/2019 at 12:54 (497 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
hose size

Does anyone know if the hose size and electric plug on the hose are standard? Could you use other attachments and power nozzles with it?

Post# 405790 , Reply# 6   2/22/2019 at 08:27 (497 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)        

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Damn! Those are fugly!

Post# 405810 , Reply# 7   2/22/2019 at 14:25 (496 days old) by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        

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"I believe it might even give the Miele C2 a run for its money at this price point."

Are you serious?! I think the Miele C2 Electro + for $599 would kill the ZeroG company's sales. Let's see the pros & cons here....

+ Hovers on air, no wheels.

+ HEPA Cloth bags with a tab to seal before removal.

+ High quality powerhead with good edge cleaning capabilities, which can be a pet peeve for some consumers.

+ High quality universal 32mm attachments, with the option to buy other universal attachments later without using an adapter.

+ Mini powerhead, not turbobrush, for cleaning stairs, upholstery & removing pet hair.

- MADE IN CHINA with Chinese motor & parts, vs MADE IN GERMANY with German motor & parts. This will be a HUGE factor for some consumers, especially at the price ZeroG wants for this vacuum.

- No HEPA Filter in a Sealed System. HUGE FLAW!!! What were they thinking not putting a HEPA Filter in a high end vacuum?!?! Any allergy sufferer or anyone worried about indoor air quality will immediately dismiss this vacuum for that reason alone.

- No variable speed control, & no bleeder valve on the hose to reduce airflow for certain cleaning tasks. NOT a good idea to ask hundreds for a high end canister vacuum & not have that feature!

- No cord rewinder, & no way to wrap the cord around the canister or on cord hooks. Instead, they just show how to bundle the cord up & use a cord strap to tie it up & tuck under the handle. Again, REALLY SMART IDEA going ahead & making a high end canister, ask hundreds of dollars for it & no nice way to store the cord!!!

- No onboard tool storage, except possibly to use a tool caddy. Really?!?! Even the Miele C1 & C2 canisters have a tool caddy mounted on the hose so it doesn't get in the way when vacuuming & using the wand. Really dumb idea to not think of that on a high end canister vacuum!

- Inferior quality, expensive bags. The ZeroG bags are 5 layer HEPA Cloth, vs the Miele AirClean bags being 9 layer HEPA Cloth that don't allow the vacuum to lose suction till 3/4 full. Plus the bag cost is nearly the same for both machines.

- No direct connect hose at the machine end to canister. Yes, with Miele C2 you have to plug in a powerhead cord like the ZeroG makes you do, but it's unacceptable on BOTH machines considering there's other Chinese canister vacuums, like the Cirrus & Vapamore Vento canisters, that cost 1/2 of these machines & has this feature & even MORE as standard.

I think if ZeroG wants to have ANY chance succeeding in the marketplace, they had better get ZeroG 2.0 on the drawing board ASAP! Right now, as it stands, this is another vacuum with a innovative idea but poorly executed. They should have done their market research & product planning a bit better than this considering their closest competitor is a German brand who has driven many competitors out of the marketplace & sent them packing back home.


Post# 405856 , Reply# 8   2/23/2019 at 08:59 (496 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
biggest flaw

The biggest thing it would be lacking for me is the cord winder, the other things that Rob mentioned would not bother me though they may be important to others.
I actually think the Miele C1 and C2 models are made in China now but not sure on that, I know some of them are.

Post# 405871 , Reply# 9   2/23/2019 at 15:26 (495 days old) by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        

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There are only 2 Miele C1 & C2 models made in China. The C1 Compact canisters were previously the Miele S4 series, & the Miele C2 Hard Floor was previously the Miele S5 series. These are now considered entry level models in Miele's lineup, but still retain the same quality since they use German components & only the body is formed & the machine is assembled in China, & even then that's because the German factory has only so much capacity & they are making the current C1, C2 & C3 models.

As for your observations about the flaws I pointed out in the ZeroG, I agree with you, to some collectors like yourself those flaws may not be so important. However, it's the opinion of the normal, everyday consumer that matters, & unfortunately those flaws will definitely not find favor with most people wanting to buy a new vacuum.


Post# 406055 , Reply# 10   2/27/2019 at 19:33 (491 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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Hope this clarifies a few things . I will be making a few more videos with this vacuum when I am back in the USA.

Post# 406197 , Reply# 11   3/2/2019 at 05:20 (489 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

This does appear to be a competent vacuum.The only thing I don't like for the most part is the NOISE of the canister motor and the powernozzle.Bet the Volt would be interesting to try on this.Do like the upgraded bags over the paper bags on the TriStars and their clones.One wad of ahir blew away from the powernozzle during the hard floor test.Otherwise it did fine.I would still be nervus about using the powernozzle on a fine wood floor as shown.Who is going to carry these machines-would like to see and try one.Is this going to be a dealer machine?Its another choice in the jungle out there.

Post# 406199 , Reply# 12   3/2/2019 at 07:44 (489 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
It seems

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It appears to be a pretty nice unit other than the sound of the main motor and the lack of a designated place for the cord. Thank you for sharing that Alex.

Post# 406202 , Reply# 13   3/2/2019 at 09:41 (489 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
motor sound

Great video review. I'm not fond of the motor sound either, one of those high pitch screamers, and it's very noticeable, and no cord winder.

Post# 406214 , Reply# 14   3/2/2019 at 13:17 (488 days old) by FantomLightning (Ohio)        

I really was intrigued by this machine and was seriously considering picking one up. However that screamer of a motor and the TINY bags are a deal breaker for me, especially at this price.

That PN I've always found interesting, at one point it was sold for central vacs, we had a woman bring one into our shop from her home in Canada. I believe it was originally branded something like the Canavac Edge. It reminds me of the setup LG used for edge cleaning that was very effective in their Kompressor machines. Besides the Constellation like floating that was one of the main draws for me.

Post# 406251 , Reply# 15   3/3/2019 at 09:26 (488 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
power nozzle

I thought they made their own power nozzle, is it purchased from another company? If so, I wonder which one it is. It doesn't sound like a Wessel-Werk so it's probably something else. Yes, there is just something about the suction motor sound on this that I don't like. I am looking at getting the Cirrus canister though, it sounds really good.

Post# 406256 , Reply# 16   3/3/2019 at 12:09 (487 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Power Nozzle

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I could be wrong but I believe that's a Platinum Edgelift nozzle and Essco owns those now.

Post# 406281 , Reply# 17   3/4/2019 at 10:25 (487 days old) by FantomLightning (Ohio)        

You're exactly right, that's the one I had seen come into the shop.

Post# 406481 , Reply# 18   3/9/2019 at 05:21 (482 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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@Blackheart My understanding is that the patents are owned by Zero-G for nozzle.
They did make that central vacuum nozzle or let someone else make it. Something of that sort .

@n0oxy The sound is my A6000 stock microphones. They suck it's a know issue with the Sony A6000 it really dose sound different in real life. I will try to use action camera for the next video it has better microphones.

Also I wouldn't buy this . Its TTI crap from the wost parts of China Town.
Just like the oreck quest.

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Post# 406484 , Reply# 19   3/9/2019 at 06:07 (482 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        

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the edgelift nozzle has been around for probably around 14 years maybe even more than that. I first saw it on an infomercial years back paired with the Airider Mach 2. Unfortunately i've never been able to find much information on that vacuum. There's a wix site for it but it's not very functional...

Post# 406515 , Reply# 20   3/9/2019 at 21:20 (481 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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The official answer directly from Zero-G vacuum
"Hi Alex,
We manufactured and sold earlier versions of the powerhead on a private-label basis for use in central vacs. The ZeroG powehead is several generations removed and improved.

Post# 406529 , Reply# 21   3/10/2019 at 06:59 (481 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        

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Hm that's interesting. I figured the companies behind it were newcomers to the industry, though I feel like i've heard the name Amvac before.

Post# 406696 , Reply# 22   3/15/2019 at 02:29 (476 days old) by hooverkid (PA,USA)        
I'm going to test one!

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I contacted zero g and they agreed to send me one to test. It should be here by monday and I will have a review video posted in a week. I'll let everyone know what I think of it when it shows up.

Post# 407696 , Reply# 23   4/6/2019 at 10:36 (454 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        
Zero G Power

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So I brought the zero-g to a friend's apartment friend who watched my dog 🐕while I was out of town. The results of what was in there carpet was horrifying.

Post# 407722 , Reply# 24   4/7/2019 at 00:30 (453 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

WOW AND WOW-makes me think of TriStar demos in folks homes that have bagless vacuums with stuffed bins and clogged filters!!You could have been the DTD salesman to sell them a Zero-G!!!!That tiny kitchen crumb and doormat vacuum they use just WON'T compare to a REAL vacuum!!!!

Post# 407758 , Reply# 25   4/7/2019 at 23:42 (452 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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@tolivac I definitely agree with you they should have a different machine. But these are people here on a student visa and will go back to their home country very soon .

Post# 407761 , Reply# 26   4/8/2019 at 06:18 (452 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Didn't realize those folks were students and here temporarily-so they have to use the machine they could get-someone gave them or whatever.Sure they have a better vacuum at their home place.wonder what kind it is.

Post# 407762 , Reply# 27   4/8/2019 at 06:20 (452 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Also figure the ZeroG would appeal to former Constellation fans.You just have to clean the area where the hover vacuum is going to be placed first.That way no dirt blown around.

Post# 412489 , Reply# 28   8/7/2019 at 11:55 (330 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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I believe this answers a lot of people's questions about this vacuum.

Post# 419393 , Reply# 29   2/1/2020 at 12:04 by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        
Inside the Zero-G nozzle

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Post# 419400 , Reply# 30   2/2/2020 at 00:35 by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

just received a ZeroG vacuum-has the same powernozzle.NICE little vacuum-and POWERFUL for its size.Does well with its stock nozzle and the Volt.When I got the machine it had the paper bag that you can see what you picked up.Fine-but those bags have the abnormally large opening so they don't fit snugly on the bag feed horn.LOTS of dirt went into the cloth bag.Put in one of the "HEPA" bags and MUCH better-NO dirt dust leakage.Also had to vacuum the underside of the bag lid.Used the NSS M1 vac for cleanup in the ZeroG.Really like this vacuum!GREAT buy for someone that wants a fine performing vacuum at a reasonable price.For China made the machine is EXCELLENT quality.

Post# 419401 , Reply# 31   2/2/2020 at 02:38 by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

The sound on my ZeroG is quiet and pleasant.

Post# 419402 , Reply# 32   2/2/2020 at 03:28 by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Have you tried the Air-Rider vacuum?Similar to the ZeroG.

Post# 419404 , Reply# 33   2/2/2020 at 08:39 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
I like mine

Got the zero g a couple weeks ago. I definitely suggest using the Hepa bags, it's a great machine and it uses a central vacuum handle so you can use other attachments or power nozzles with it. The included power nozzle is awesome though.

Post# 419489 , Reply# 34   2/4/2020 at 04:36 by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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@n0oxy glad to hear you enjoy yours. It's such an underrated machine.

@tolivac The Air-Rider vacuum is quite the chincy knockoff. Their website is not working at the moment I wonder if they want under?

Post# 419514 , Reply# 35   2/4/2020 at 19:59 by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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The website is working now. The top of the line package is on sale for $497 which includes the rechargeable power head.

Post# 419516 , Reply# 36   2/4/2020 at 20:30 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
zero g

I love my zero g vacuum. I'm guessing the rechargeable power nozzle that airider includes is the one made by Perfect Products. Has anyone tried that vacuum? Wonder if it's as good as the zero g. For the price the Zero G is a very good powerful canister cleaner.

Post# 419524 , Reply# 37   2/5/2020 at 00:22 by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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@countryguy that's very strange they want that much for that. I saw it for sale without the power head for $200 and some change on Amazon.
I'm really skeptical of that vacuum especially since they don't show up to any trade shows or do business with any vendors right now that I'm aware of.

I do often see the zero-g on sale. So if you're interested in a flooding vacuum that might be something to watch.
Thanks for sharing

Post# 419525 , Reply# 38   2/5/2020 at 00:28 by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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@countryguy that's very strange they want that much for that. I saw it for sale without the power head for $200 and some change on Amazon.
I'm really skeptical of that vacuum especially since they don't show up to any trade shows or do business with any vendors right now that I'm aware of.

I do often see the zero-g on sale. So if you're interested in a flooding vacuum that might be something to watch.
Thanks for sharing

Post# 419707 , Reply# 39   2/8/2020 at 19:32 by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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New long-term review in 4k with plenty of vacuum money shots.

Post# 419738 , Reply# 40   2/9/2020 at 10:51 by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Impressive machine, love the tools and hose and cord length.

Post# 422575 , Reply# 41   4/1/2020 at 12:21 by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        
Inside the Zero-G

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