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Thread Number: 38053
/ Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
Electrolux AP-100 not running |
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| Post# 405532 , Reply# 1 2/16/2019 at 21:32 (1,896 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB) | ||
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| Post# 405533 , Reply# 2 2/16/2019 at 21:37 (1,896 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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| Post# 405534 , Reply# 3 2/16/2019 at 21:44 (1,896 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB) | ||
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Resto ap 200 pic This is from when i open up my Electrolux ap 200.Ap200 and 100 are same here is the wires motors some thing must be block or messed up for it not to work.Make sure the hose from dial to door is not clog it attach to bag door and bag light if its wrong wont turn on whit out bag is the motor making noise or switch or carbon brush ???Msg me | ||
| Post# 405537 , Reply# 4 2/16/2019 at 22:03 (1,896 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada) | ||
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Antoine If the rubber tube is the culprit, would the bag light brighten up anyhow or would it cut the current to the light too? The bag light was OFF when I tried the machine. | ||
| Post# 405538 , Reply# 5 2/16/2019 at 22:04 (1,896 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Notice his wires there organized. If you also notice clips on wires very smart. If you don't have yours like his I'd route wires and run like his. If and when in the future will be easy.
If you have little pieces of tape label wires. These little details make a huge difference when you or someone else works on it. It will take a few minutes instead of hours. Les | ||
| Post# 405539 , Reply# 6 2/16/2019 at 22:04 (1,896 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB) | ||
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| Post# 405540 , Reply# 7 2/16/2019 at 22:14 (1,896 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada) | ||
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There was a bag in it, no doubt. COuld the bag door switch be wrong? | ||
| Post# 405541 , Reply# 8 2/16/2019 at 22:15 (1,895 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB) | ||
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| Post# 405542 , Reply# 9 2/16/2019 at 22:22 (1,895 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada) | ||
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I just had a look at the bag door switch connectors and they look good. Is there a simple test I could do with a voltmeter to rule the switch out? | ||
| Post# 405543 , Reply# 10 2/16/2019 at 22:31 (1,895 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB) | ||
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| Post# 405544 , Reply# 11 2/16/2019 at 22:33 (1,895 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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| Post# 405545 , Reply# 12 2/16/2019 at 22:34 (1,895 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada) | ||
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Here we go with the wiring. I took pictures step by step making my way to the motor last evening. | ||
| Post# 405546 , Reply# 13 2/16/2019 at 22:51 (1,895 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Dude your Motor looks like it has been around the block and put away wet. The copper coils are loose, carbon brushes look like they have never been changed,corossion mildew and rust. It's every where. Tell me the old motor is pic 7 and it goes backwards otherwise Im no expert but if that motor runs it won't for long .
Les | ||
| Post# 405547 , Reply# 14 2/16/2019 at 23:05 (1,895 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada) | ||
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All pictures are of the same motor, ahah ! Picture 7 shows the more how bad it is , hey ! I even wonder if I should spend time trying to fix it, what do you think ? | ||
| Post# 405548 , Reply# 15 2/16/2019 at 23:17 (1,895 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada) | ||
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At least the cord rewinder looks fine. | ||
| Post# 405549 , Reply# 16 2/16/2019 at 23:30 (1,895 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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| Post# 405551 , Reply# 17 2/17/2019 at 00:20 (1,895 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
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| Post# 405556 , Reply# 18 2/17/2019 at 03:21 (1,895 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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The coil looks done for. Idk might need new motor but cleaning it up and drying it will help alot. I am going to mention something weird. Go to parts store get best degreaser they have. Go to car wash dump degreaser all over everything and power spray. Continue this a few times and the motor would look Clean and brand new.
I mean shiz look at it. It will make motor work if it's going to work. It will clean up wires. Wash at car wash a few times until motor is in excellent condition. Dry it completely. Then wire it and it should work. Les Don't listen to mad men he's crazy. All up in here talking like he is an electrician. Oh and if you have any skills rip old wiring out and rewire correctly. Les | ||
| Post# 405561 , Reply# 19 2/17/2019 at 07:26 (1,895 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada) | ||
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If I wire 120V directly to the brushes connectors , should the motor run if it's good? | ||
| Post# 405562 , Reply# 20 2/17/2019 at 07:35 (1,895 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB) | ||
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| Post# 405565 , Reply# 21 2/17/2019 at 07:57 (1,895 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada) | ||
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Does somebody here have a wiring diagram or send me a safe link to one? | ||
| Post# 405567 , Reply# 22 2/17/2019 at 08:20 (1,895 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada) | ||
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I have another AP-100 in the basement that runs good, I think I'll open it to compare the wirings and see what is wrong, if it's the wiring or the motor itself. I'll post pictures of both side by side. | ||
| Post# 405568 , Reply# 23 2/17/2019 at 08:28 (1,895 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB) | ||
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| Post# 405589 , Reply# 25 2/17/2019 at 14:01 (1,895 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB) | ||
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| Post# 405590 , Reply# 26 2/17/2019 at 14:15 (1,895 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada) | ||
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I just pulled a cord out of a B28 carpet cleaner, I'll use it for in that reel, it'll probably a bit longer than the broken one. | ||
| Post# 405592 , Reply# 27 2/17/2019 at 14:51 (1,895 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
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Les, I've completely rewired 3 houses. I've solved electrical problems that real electricians failed to. I've also rewired entire cars. So I think I'm allowed to talk like I'm an electrician. Also, yes, I am crazy.
quebecois - Don't feel bad about not noticing the broken cord. I did the same thing a couple months ago! The cord was all chewed up and I was taking apart the motor to see why it didn't work lol. Always remember when diagnosing something - anything - start with the basics. Also, never apply power to the brush connectors! You want to apply power to the field coil wires, and even then, only if you know which ones are which. Most one speed motors will only have 2 wires going to the field coil (not counting 2 more wires that come out of the field to go to the brushes). | ||
| Post# 405595 , Reply# 28 2/17/2019 at 15:08 (1,895 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada) | ||
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Thanks to all, i'll keep on posting about the motor as the work progresses. | ||
| Post# 405596 , Reply# 29 2/17/2019 at 15:33 (1,895 days old) by quebecois (Waterloo, Canada) | ||
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I don't know why you guys are bitching each others ? | ||
| Post# 405707 , Reply# 30 2/19/2019 at 22:43 (1,892 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Madmen | ||
| Post# 405712 , Reply# 31 2/20/2019 at 03:22 (1,892 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
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