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Post# 379241   10/4/2017 at 18:46 (356 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

One thing I noted was the noise level-seems very quiet. Quieter than I thought in previous videos. I struggled to hear the power nozzle.

Others have seemed critical of it, but I don't know why.

Post# 379247 , Reply# 1   10/4/2017 at 19:53 (356 days old) by blackheart (North Dakota)        

They're a nice machine I've got the TOL Wonder with the tandem air nozzle. It's definitely one of my favorite canisters.

Post# 379250 , Reply# 2   10/4/2017 at 20:46 (356 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

They seem like they are to me. I'm not sold on the tandem air nozzle though. It's so bulky that it would feel like an upright to me. I have had uprights for years and the whole purpose of switching to canister is to get under furniture.

Post# 379252 , Reply# 3   10/4/2017 at 20:53 (356 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

One thing I don't understand about Tacony is why their power nozzles need a pigtail cable at the power nozzle when it is direct connect?

Post# 379274 , Reply# 4   10/5/2017 at 10:48 (355 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        

It's a mechanical liability to try and enclose the electrical contacts inside the swivel elbow of a power nozzle. This is a typical wear and tear item for other brands such as Miele, Aerus/ fka Electrolux.

I think it's quite practical because this way if the elbow breaks, the pigtail wiring has a better chance of surviving. Anyway, enclosed wiring is usually not very well protected, depending on the brand.

Post# 379324 , Reply# 5   10/6/2017 at 04:14 (355 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I would LOVE this vacuum

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except for a couple of things, which are minor actually.

1. I can imagine putting the dusting brush on and that big huge handle getting in the way when trying to use the dusting brush in tight places.
2. I wish that when you disconnedted the wand from the nozzle, that the floor tool was ON BOARD for quick access.

Post# 379399 , Reply# 6   10/7/2017 at 22:17 (353 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Thanks for that info. I never thought of that. I suppose it isn't that big of a deal, it doesn't affect the speed of use at all.

Post# 379400 , Reply# 7   10/7/2017 at 22:19 (353 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        


I know what you mean. Almost no manufacturer places the bare floor tool on the machine anymore. It's hard to find that feature anymore.

Post# 379495 , Reply# 8   10/9/2017 at 17:19 (351 days old) by vacuumdevil (Denver)        

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In person that vacuums pretty loud especially compared to the other Vacuums in the price range. It's quieter than a Kenmore a Dyson or something like that.

But it's a pretty quirky awkward machine. That guy does a great demo kind of like Criss Angel. But the end of the day remember that its sales propaganda.
Once you try the other machines in that price point you'll see why this one was just not ready for Todays Market.
Tacony is pulling YouTube videos that are bad reviews of it , that's reality.

Post# 379512 , Reply# 9   10/9/2017 at 22:35 (351 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

This is not the Tandem Air machine that you reviewed a while ago on Youtube. This is the regular power nozzle version.

The vacuum does not seem loud at all. Their is no trickery involved. I could hear his voice clearly so the sound of the vacuum did carry. If you can offer proof that it is substantially louder with a decibel reader, then I would appreciate it.

It just does't seem quirky or cumbersome to me. The only critical point I see is the the attachment clips on the hose might get caught. That would bother me if so. I'm not a huge fan of caster wheels either. The machine rolls around wildly behind you, where the machine bangs into everything. I'd rather have the stable rear wheels.

All videos are basically propaganda. Your video on the Tandem Air machine made me think twice about that particular model for sure, but I find many flaws with Miele machines. You can't park the power nozzle on the machine. The tools are inferior to almost everyone else. Their cords and hoses are short. Their parts are not infallible and very expensive. Their bags are small and expensive. Their filters are expensive. Sebo, Aerus, Rainbow, etc. all have flaws too. I'm just looking for a balance I can live with.

Post# 379521 , Reply# 10   10/10/2017 at 02:20 (351 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
I have the Wonder

But don't use it that much, thumbs up for the vacuum itself, I hATE the clunky hose grip.It does clean well.

Post# 379814 , Reply# 11   10/15/2017 at 19:06 (345 days old) by vacuumdevil (Denver)        

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Post# 379831 , Reply# 12   10/16/2017 at 00:53 (345 days old) by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        

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I completely agree with you on having the cord on the outside of the powerhead neck. As you said above, if the neck breaks, the chances of the powerhead cord being in good condition & being able to be re-used are much higher.

As for the wiring not being so well protected when enclosed in a powerhead neck, I can totally see that, & how a manufacturer would therefore consider a powerhead neck a wear & tear item. Two single wires enclosed in a plastic neck would see more wear & tear to the wires over time, than a powerhead cord on the outside with insulation & a rubber casing. In fact, what boggles my mind is why the manufacturers haven't made each wire like a regular cord with insulation & rubber casing inside the neck. This would solve the problem of the wires breaking entirely, & make the end product much more reliable.


Post# 379833 , Reply# 13   10/16/2017 at 06:57 (344 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

That video posted does make it seem louder than the Miele. I'm not terribly surprised since Miele's are among the most quiet on the market. It's not quieter by a huge margin though. The Tacony motor does seem more high pitched. However, the Tacony is still miles quieter than most other brands.

I keep hoping that a U.S. manufacturer will decide to match the German competitors but they seem to be skating. But still I cannot get past the Miele's flaws. If I'm paying that much, I want a parking spot for the power nozzle, a decent hose length, and a long cord.

Good videos!

Post# 379834 , Reply# 14   10/16/2017 at 07:12 (344 days old) by Tseg (World Traveller)        


On the Miele wand, while the wires are enclosed in the wand, the wires on the SET220 are outside of the tube. Likewise, on the SEB 236 power head, while the wires are enclosed, they are outside the airway/tube... there is a panel on the powerhead neck that can be unscrewed with 2 torx screws, providing access to the wiring in the neck. I think keeping the wires exposed on the outside is just sloppy, if nothing else. I happen to like 'neat, clean and organized', which is what I get with Miele.

electromatic, not sure why a parking spot for a power head is needed when it stands on its own? I will agree once you go below the C3 models the hose and cord length on Mieles are sub-optimal... but that is how they different value and price points to the consumer, but I really like the C3 hose length where it keeps the machine from running into my heals but not too long if I need to reach back to direct the machine around some furniture that I would have to take a step back to complete the task.

Post# 379862 , Reply# 15   10/17/2017 at 03:17 (344 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

It's important to me because even though the wand system can be locked to stand by itself, it is still at risk to fall over if bumped accidentally. This can cause damage to the home, furniture, or machine. I think a parking spot is important for that reason. It's just a preference of mine.

Post# 379864 , Reply# 16   10/17/2017 at 06:33 (343 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I end up leaning my Wonder wit the Tamdem nozzle against something when I am not pushing it.It is kinda tippy.

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