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Post# 367350   2/22/2017 at 11:07 (2,619 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

So if I was going to buy just one, vintage Royal upright.....and its use would be strictly residential....what would be a good model to shoot for? I don't care necessarily about size or heft, but durability. However, I don't want some monster, commercial upright that would seem out of place in a home. Carpets would run from thin to plush and include Berber.

 

Kevin


Post# 367351 , Reply# 1   2/22/2017 at 11:38 (2,619 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
Real1Shep

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Kevin,

 

The model 880 would be a great choice! Those seem to be quite plentiful on eBay.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/royal-880-vacuum...

(1975 model--this one is closest to you!)

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/royal-880-vacuum...

(1980 model)

 

~Ben


Post# 367352 , Reply# 2   2/22/2017 at 11:43 (2,619 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I completely agree with Ben. The 880 is the perfect household model. Not too loud, not too heavy, bags are very plentiful, as are belts and spare parts. GOOD motor.

Post# 367354 , Reply# 3   2/22/2017 at 11:52 (2,619 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

Great....thanks so much! I meant to write that bags & spare parts need to be plentiful.

 

Are the cloth HEPA type bags available for this model?

 

Kevin


Post# 367356 , Reply# 4   2/22/2017 at 11:57 (2,619 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        
Bag?

What's the deal with the bag on the 880 auction from OR? Shouldn't the bag say Royal somewhere...is that a generic bag bought to save money?

 

Kevin


Post# 367358 , Reply# 5   2/22/2017 at 11:59 (2,619 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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Kevin,

 

No... unless you use an outer bag assembly that takes the Royal type B disposable bags.

 

~Ben


Post# 367359 , Reply# 6   2/22/2017 at 12:11 (2,619 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        
Ben.....

so if I wanted to use a HEPA type bag, I would need to buy an outer bag that takes the Royal Type B disposable bags? Are these available from Royal....ebay?

 

Kevin


Post# 367377 , Reply# 7   2/22/2017 at 18:52 (2,619 days old) by kenkart ()        
I have a

801 I wouldn't trade for any other upright on earth, its a 1958 and I always go back to it, I have a late 70s 880 that is almost new in the box, pretty, but I like the old 801 better.

Post# 367379 , Reply# 8   2/22/2017 at 19:30 (2,619 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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Kevin,

 

There are HEPA alternatives to the Royal type A disposables in the form of equivalents for the Eureka F&G disposable bags. I wonder if the Sanitaire Style ST HEPA disposables could suit you?

 

~Ben


Post# 367384 , Reply# 9   2/22/2017 at 20:55 (2,619 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

There are HEPA alternatives to the Royal type A disposables in the form of equivalents for the Eureka F&G disposable bags. I wonder if the Sanitaire Style ST HEPA disposables could suit you?

 

~Ben

 

Funny you said that because the seller said it presently takes a Type F G bag. I have no idea what he's talking about.

 

Kevin


Post# 367388 , Reply# 10   2/22/2017 at 22:27 (2,619 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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Kevin,

 

They do both fit... that's what vintage Royal owners used after the Royal type A disposable bags were discontinued.

 

~Ben


Post# 367390 , Reply# 11   2/22/2017 at 23:10 (2,618 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        
Thanks....

Ben! I made the seller in OR and offer and he took it.  So my first Royal (actually I have a Royal 120 volt hand vac and a Royal 12 volt car vac...lol) is on its way. I found places with parts, but all using part #'s and yet I can find no IPL for the Royal 880. Be nice to find a Owner's Manual too even if it's a pdf file....something.

 

I'm just gonna plug it in and see if there are any obvious problems....then completely break it down, service it and polish. I used to be an upright guy before Elux canisters took over my life.....be nice to have a quality upright again. Excited!

 

Kevin


Post# 367391 , Reply# 12   2/22/2017 at 23:43 (2,618 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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Kevin,

 

Congratulations on the seller accepting your preferred offer! You will not be disappointed when your 880 arrives and you put it to the test!

 

The gray bag I see on this machine at present is an aftermarket bag, as the metal spring that hooks to the top of the handle was never used by Royal at all... rather they used a chain-link hook.

 

This is what a model 880 looked like back in 1975... it was the last year the motor assembly had both rear and front bearings, this is why there'll be two oil caps present.

 

And here is an 880 parts list dating from the mid-1960s, plus an owner's manual dated 1985 (the latter courtesy of Matt Naiva aka upright886).

 

~Ben


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Post# 367398 , Reply# 13   2/23/2017 at 06:41 (2,618 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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Ah, the 880 is quite possibly my favorite Royal upright! FANTASTIC cleaner! I need to find one to call my own.
Hans...I may have to try out that 801 when we get together this summer...I'll give you a call tonight.
Andy


Post# 367409 , Reply# 14   2/23/2017 at 10:51 (2,618 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        
Ben....

thank you so much for all the help! I've been reading all I can on Royal uprights. I've got 'amp envy' with respect to the larger motors, but I'm sure it will do a nice job and I didn't pay a king's ransom for it.

 

The only thing that bothers me is the bag. I knew that wasn't the correct bag in the pic. Be nice to get a blue bag with a chain, but from what I've been able to glean from sources, that's going to be tough. I found a place that has electric motor brushes, but they say the new brushes will short themselves out with the metal brush caps....that you have to use plastic, but not sure they offer the plastic caps. And so it goes.......

 

I'm not sure how to capture the images you've posted. I can save as a link, but it won't let me copy them to store on my own PC. I hate to bother you more, but could you send me the images to my email and/or clue me a way to capture your posted images?

 

Kevin


Post# 367410 , Reply# 15   2/23/2017 at 11:13 (2,618 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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Kevin,

 

Did you choose "Save Image As" from the drop-down menu when you right-clicked?

 

~Ben


Post# 367411 , Reply# 16   2/23/2017 at 11:25 (2,618 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
Real1Shep

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Kevin,

 

I sent you a Gmail e-mail with these included. Please let me you if you get it and the attached pics!


~Ben


Post# 367413 , Reply# 17   2/23/2017 at 12:19 (2,618 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        
Got them.....

all! Yeah, it doesn't give me a 'Save Image As' choice with right click...just 'Copy Link Location'. It's all good now because you sent in email.

 

I printed everything and stapled a little 'book' together. So......I'm on my way to Royal upright ownership! He doesn't picture the top blue handle in his auction....hope that was just an oversight on his part. I hope it doesn't come with someone else's dirt in the bag....I hate that.

 

Kevin

 

Post# 367418 , Reply# 18   2/23/2017 at 14:02 (2,618 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
880 Top Handle

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Kevin,

 

Here's a picture of a 1975 801's top handle... but on the 880 the color of the grip will be, of course, light blue.

 

~Ben 


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Post# 367443 , Reply# 19   2/23/2017 at 22:58 (2,617 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        
Great....

that at least gives me a template of what shape the OE handle should be.

 

I gleaned off of all the Royal dialog here that I should get a new belt(and a spare), a spare switch, motor brushes and a new brush roll. Is there anything else I would need as a spare(assuming nothing else is worn out or broken)?

 

Kevin



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