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GE Swivel-Top Canister Model P1C18
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Post# 35821   3/25/2008 at 21:58 (5,874 days old) by louvac (A)        

...ok guys...

So I now have this GE canister that I won on ebay and paid way too much for...but it's only money and I really like the damn thing! Luckily it arrived in perfect condition. The cord is original (I think-it's black with the stopper thingy on the end) and is in excellent shape. There are no skinned areas and/or cracks and the inside is very clean with no rust or the like. The cloth bag was also very clean and only took a few shakes to rid the fine dust trapped in the pores. Overall it's in really, really nice shape. The check indicator light also works!

Can any of you GE canister gurus tell me if there is supposed to be a bag ring to this model? It did not come with one. The pink GE paper bags which I have tend to tear when installing them without this ring. The older swivel-tops had an aluminum one however, I think that this model may have had a plastic one? Can anyone confirm this? Does anyone have a spare one for sale? The machine came with only the hose and no attachments. If anyone has a spare set for sale I would also be interested in knowing that, too!

Thanks guys!
Louis


Post# 35829 , Reply# 1   3/25/2008 at 22:46 (5,874 days old) by luxg ()        

Very nice machine Louis, any idea when it was made? Seems like I can remember them.

Post# 35832 , Reply# 2   3/25/2008 at 22:58 (5,874 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
A beautiful GE & hose, Lou!

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Did it come with all the matching tools, too?

Don't you fret none about the cost, Lou...I feel the same way about my eBay pink...er...salmon Swiveltop. The shipping to Canada was more than the vac but it's in superb condition and has all the important parts. Just missing the salmon plastic dusting brush and upholstery nozzle and they'll show up one of these days.

But, it also is missing the bag ring. If there is a sponge rubber donut under the swivel dome, it had a bag ring. Know what you mean about the bags - the ring adds that extra thickness over the bag edge that lets the clamps snug the top down as the donut presses the ring & paper bag to the cloth filter bag rubber rim.

If anyone has spare rings in any color metal or plastic I'd be interested, too. Without it stray dust whirl escapes past the lip and into the cover.

The floor tool with the aqua green one is gray and not the right color, I think, but close enough for now. The two nozzles down front came with the Salmon one but clearly neither matches either of my swiveltops. They are the concentric ring ribbed GE ones with their names on the sides. The dark olive green dust brush looks like a match to yours?

The sort of parts we hang on to until a matching vacuum comes along. :-)

Dave


Post# 35848 , Reply# 3   3/26/2008 at 00:16 (5,874 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi Louis, Hi Dave:

A - no the vacuum you have Louis did not come with a bag ring - the bag just folded over the rim

B - Dave - the grey flip over nozzle is the right one for the green machine. They didnt start matching the colors to the machine till the model after that. Up to that point all they used was grey parts (LOL and get busy and paint that dolly green instead of red)


Post# 35850 , Reply# 4   3/26/2008 at 00:24 (5,874 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi again Louis:

Was checking through my files and found a picture of that model I had saved so I thought I'd post it so you know what parts came with it. I may have extra of the small parts too - I'll have to check. I know I dont have the rug nozzle though.
Doug


Post# 35851 , Reply# 5   3/26/2008 at 00:36 (5,874 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Even though I'm HOOVER all the way

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I have a swivel G E, with attachments. It's 1960s, I believe. I'll have to look at it again for the particulars. I wasn't sure people would want it, but, I knew NOT to discard it. More info will follow, John

Post# 35853 , Reply# 6   3/26/2008 at 00:56 (5,874 days old) by scott55405 ()        

That's really nice Louis! From Collector2s picture it seems to be a later swivel top, owing to the design of the rug nozzle. I seem to recall seeing one like it before. They had some really cool designs.

Post# 35889 , Reply# 7   3/26/2008 at 14:41 (5,874 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
Congratulations

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Louis, I was hoping you would end up with that vacuum, I found it while you were bidding on it, and wanted to say something, but didn't want to mess anything up. Gottahaveahoove, everyone needs at least one Swivel-Top, so hold on to yours!

Post# 35891 , Reply# 8   3/26/2008 at 15:39 (5,874 days old) by louvac (A)        

Alan...

...thank you and thanks for the consideration, as well. I cleaned up the machine superficially last night and it is in pretty decent shape. Though the hose looks good and even feels like brand new, I think there is some loss of suction but I am not sure. I have a brand new attachment set in the box for GE upright and the hose is the same, so I tried it and the suction was noticeably greater. That upright hose is the cheaper version which is just vinyl but it works well. The hose that came with it is like brand new and there is no obstruction so maybe it's beginning to collapse internally perhaps. Who knows.

But, I will say that if this machine did not come with the bag ring "thingy" it should have. Dave is right that dust does find its way under the lip and escapes without a ring in place. Maybe a plastic plate of some sort, like melamine" could be adapted. Of course, one would have to cut a hold in the center. Or even simply, a Solo plastic plate may work even better.

...Scott and Terry, I think that the machine is from the early 70's, possibly late 60's.

...Doug, thanks so much for that picture! Do you have the same model? And yes, if you have any extra tools or parts that go to this machine, I would love to buy them from you.


Post# 35911 , Reply# 9   3/26/2008 at 20:03 (5,874 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
I have a quick question...

Hi,

Thanks for reading. I'm not on here much anymore, but I do have a question for you. Does this machine have a power nozzle port on it. I know around the time that machine was made, GE "briefly" offered a powerhead on their swivel top cleaners.

Just wondering...

Chad


Post# 36006 , Reply# 10   3/27/2008 at 11:23 (5,873 days old) by louvac (A)        

Hi Chad!

To answer you question about whether or not there is an electrical port for a power nozzle...no there is not unfortunately. All I have to do now is search out some tools and a floor nozzle. Wish me luck!

Louis


Post# 36017 , Reply# 11   3/27/2008 at 12:26 (5,873 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

My 1978 Canadian Tire Spring & Summer catalog has 4 versions of the swivel top.
Two without the power nozzle, economy and deluxe (cord winder)
Two with a power nozzle, the economy (no cord winder) and the Deluxe with cord winder.


Post# 36032 , Reply# 12   3/27/2008 at 14:18 (5,873 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Pete,

Could you scan the Canadian Tire page and post it?

Gary


Post# 36074 , Reply# 13   3/27/2008 at 18:15 (5,873 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
About tools...

Louis,

Thanks for writing me back. I was just wondering about the PowerNozzle outlet, as I was sure that right around that time frame, and just slightly before GE left the US vacuum market, they had a Swivel-Top with a powerhead.

I myself had the rectangular General Electric canister from around this same time frame with the large square cord reel on the back a'la Electrolux. It also had the suction regulator on the canister hose connector part and had the toolkit hanging off the back of the cord reel too...

This was clearly built at the same time frame as Doug's machine above, as it was all the same color. Mine had all the green attachments, just like his, the top of the machine was covered in fake woodgrain, EXCEPT the rugtool which said nothing on it AND tho it was white.

And I mean CLOROX white. And it stuck out like a sore thumb.

Knowing that either it was a replacement, or from a different cleaner, I spray painted the rug tool the yellowy green that the machine is. It came off quite well actually, and to the eye at 5 paces looked like it belonged. It was a Krylon color and was available from ACO about three years ago. You may still be able to find it.

Clearly if you went that route, you would want to try it on something and let it dry before you go wholesale Like I did. That's if you find one that isn't the color that it's supposed to be of course.

My little GE canister was given away a year ago during one of my moves.

Good looking machine and great price..

Chad
I would LOVE to see that catalog page as well.


Post# 36121 , Reply# 14   3/27/2008 at 22:34 (5,872 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

My printer/scanners on the fritz so I had to take a closeup with my camera.



Post# 36131 , Reply# 15   3/28/2008 at 00:33 (5,872 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hey Chad - something like this? (Pulls another picture out of the archives - lol)

Post# 36163 , Reply# 16   3/28/2008 at 07:13 (5,872 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Thanks for posting the pic Pete. With the power nozzle cord plugged in, it sort of defeats the purpose of it being a swivel top.

Gary


Post# 36165 , Reply# 17   3/28/2008 at 07:20 (5,872 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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Thanks for the catalogue pic and the additional Cord-Reel pics guys. I guess you've noticed the Vacuum of the Day in the meantime.

Post# 36176 , Reply# 18   3/28/2008 at 09:11 (5,872 days old) by louvac (A)        

That PN looks like it is made by Filter Queen? Right?

Post# 36250 , Reply# 19   3/29/2008 at 00:08 (5,871 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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The Ge PN was almost the exact same as the earlier Filter Queen PN. Aside from a slight difference in the shape of the top and the addition of a beater bar on the brush roll all the parts were identical and interchangable. They even had to have an adapter to connect it to the GE wand as shown in the picture


Post# 36253 , Reply# 20   3/29/2008 at 00:44 (5,871 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)        

Well as long as your happy &it's in good condition & works & more
then enjoy!
It;s when you spend & you get substandard disappoinment that sucks!

You know we couldn't even put these thing together with the cost of parts so let' s indulge in the cherishing of days gone by...



Post# 36255 , Reply# 21   3/29/2008 at 00:53 (5,871 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
beautiful vac

I love the chrome and the colour of that swivel top....

absolutely gorgeous..!!


Post# 36257 , Reply# 22   3/29/2008 at 01:19 (5,871 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
Oh mah gad...

Yes that's IT!!!!


Man im stupid. I should have saved that one. Oh well maybe they'll be another one in the future.

Ok, so the Ge used a Filter Queen Powerhead. I always wondered. I was informed that GE made it's own unique powerhead for a few years. also. I was informed also that it looked like a head from a Lewyt Electronic in style.

I guess information isn't always correct.

Thanks everyone for writing.

Chad


Post# 36338 , Reply# 23   3/29/2008 at 17:28 (5,871 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)        
pretty salmon

no chrome top but has access


CLICK HERE TO GO TO camelotshadow's LINK on eBay


Post# 36343 , Reply# 24   3/29/2008 at 17:48 (5,871 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Shame about all that rust - probably why it didn't sell first time around. Sure would like to have those wands and tools, tho.

But even if I lived across the street in Van Alstyne, Texas, I wouldn't pay that much just for tools. :-)


Post# 36437 , Reply# 25   3/30/2008 at 09:49 (5,870 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi Chad:

Actually GE did have another power head before those were out that looked a bit like the Lewyt one. This is the only picture I have of it (on the C100)and I believe it was one of the members here that has this machine (Anyone know?) I saved the picture a number of years ago for reference because the PN was so unique


Post# 36447 , Reply# 26   3/30/2008 at 10:10 (5,870 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Doug, if you look at your pic and the catalog one above, see how your pictured vac doesn't have the plug in for the power nozzle showing anywhere...wonder where it is?

Post# 36466 , Reply# 27   3/30/2008 at 13:37 (5,870 days old) by em-tor64 ()        
GE P/N

Great power nozzle, would love to find one of those!
Thanks for posting the pic...

Could the P/N plug be hidden under the cord that is wrapped around the machine?


Post# 36474 , Reply# 28   3/30/2008 at 14:19 (5,870 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
GE PowerNozzle mania....

Oh man....


That's the powernozzle that I was thinking of. I saw this on either one of the other vacuum forums, or here LONG long ago. The powernozzle looks very Lewyt-ish, and of course has the headlight which the FQ head obviously doesn't.

I wonder who made that, or if it was a GE built head. I've never got a "straight" date from anyone on what year G.E. Left the U.S. market. 1972 or 1974. I've heard different sources. And as usual we all know that almost immediatly following their departure Premier Electric out of Cleveland, starting branding most of the previous G.E. lot of cleaners under the "Premier" badge.

I have two Premiers. One is a commercial version gifted to me by our own Jeff Parker, many years ago, and is one of my prized possessions. The other I was given by Kyle Krichbaum the TOL Green Cord Reel Upright just 6+ months ago.

I love, and are facinated by machines that aren't as popular as Kriby, Electrolux, Filter Queen, Hoover and Eureka. Not that I don't have any of the previously stated. But show me a Air-Way, Lewyt, Singer, Sunbeam, Regina, Universal or G.E. And I want to know more about them for sure.

Thanks again for dredging up a pic of that original G.E. Powerhead. That was AWESOME...


Yours

Chad

P.S. Heres a RugMasteR equipped Air-Way that I was also gifted by Kyle a few months back. The pic is bad, but It's the one I've got.


Post# 36589 , Reply# 29   3/30/2008 at 22:13 (5,869 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hey Pete:

If you notice there is also no switch showing on the machine. I suspect both are on the back side. The GE name is quite plain on the hadle connection of the power head.


Post# 36812 , Reply# 30   4/1/2008 at 09:12 (5,868 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)        
Once upon a time....

I had a Premier canister with a FQ style power nozzle, like new, and a girlfriend of mine talked me out of it. That was way before I realized I was destined to be a collector. She loved that machine, she had a room dedicated in her home to do alterations/sewing and loved the way it picked up all the threads, etc. She has since passed so I have no idea whatever happened to it. It was the light green on top and darker on the bottom, if I only knew then how rare it was going to be!


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