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Post# 342580   1/31/2016 at 22:08 (3,030 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        

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I'm in the process of obtaining a beautiful 1967 RCA Victor CTC-25 console TV from a TV collector and friend in Atlanta. A few weeks ago, I got a 1984 RCA CTC-120 from an estate sale for free. I'm watching it right now. But this CTC-25 is super clean and I can't wait to go back to pick it up on February 20th. My friend said he would do some preventative maintenance on the chassis and find a new CRT. The old one was pretty darn weak.

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Post# 342593 , Reply# 1   2/1/2016 at 02:47 (3,030 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I have dealt with the RCA TRANSMITTERS that would broadcast to those sets-and those sets as well.Haven't seen any of those TVs in many years.Used to have some.Got rid of them for a move.Now wished I kept them-and some others got stolen.

Post# 342597 , Reply# 2   2/1/2016 at 06:23 (3,030 days old) by kenkart ()        
If you get it working right

The color looks so much more natural than the newer sets.

Post# 342599 , Reply# 3   2/1/2016 at 09:08 (3,030 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        
It's already working

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But the picture tube is weak. These sets are notorious for being unreliable after being used for long periods, so hopefully the preventative maintenance will help that.

Post# 342600 , Reply# 4   2/1/2016 at 09:56 (3,030 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
1972 GE portable

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Somewhere in the dim recesses of my barn, I have a 1972 vintage GE 12-inch portable black-and-white TV that I rebuilt when I was taking electronics in high school. When my grandfather gave it to me around 1980 or 81, it worked, but just barely. There were two more sets just like it in the back of the electronics lab at school and the teacher gave them to me to cannibalize for parts to make one good, working set out of the three.

I haven't turned the thing on in probably 20 years but I don't have the heart to trash it. I tried to give it to Goodwill a few years ago and they said they didn't take any TVs that didn't have a remote control. More recently, they stopped taking TVs with a CRT screen and now they just don't take TVs at all.

I also have a 1996-vintage 25-inch Sears LXI (re-badged GE) set that has now joined the little black-and-white set in the barn after 20 years of flawless service. Like the 12-inch set, nobody wants it and I don't have the heart to trash it. All three TVs in active service in the house are now flat panels (40-inch Sanyo, 32-inch HiSense, 24-inch Samsung). I'll be very, very surprised if any of them last 20 years.


Post# 342633 , Reply# 5   2/1/2016 at 18:46 (3,029 days old) by kenkart ()        
If you REALLY want

A natural, lifelike picture, get a round tube color set that is working correctly, nothing like it, not like these over bright garish looking things made today.

Post# 342643 , Reply# 6   2/1/2016 at 22:18 (3,029 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        

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You absolutely cannot beat a good old CRT set. They last forever and produce (when aligned, converged, purified, etc.) a crystal clear, true to life picture. The newer CRT sets and "phlat-skreen" sets just don't have the same picture.

Post# 342657 , Reply# 7   2/2/2016 at 04:48 (3,029 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

CRT vs flat screens-I have given up on direct view CRT sets.A flat screen TV can have a BETTER picture if it is properly set up.There is no way a CRT set can reproduce 2K and 4K HD resolution material.And no color "smearing" like what was on older sets.When you see flat screens in a store-the brightness,color,contrast are cranked up to max eye blinding levels to compete with the bright lights in the store.When you adjust the TV in its set up menu to "natural" "cinema" or "movie" mode the pictures are more lifelike.Out my way you see a dumpster full of the black plastic cabinets CRT sets-would bet most of these could give a rastor if it was turned on.But folks want HD and widescreen-16X9 instead of 4X3 as on the older sets.And on CRT sets many I have seen that are still trying to be used-the blue color gun is weak-this color phosphor is least efficient and has to be driven harder than the red or green guns for equivelent brightness.So you have to crank up the grid drive and screen level.After awhile you can't crank those up anymore and the CRT is shot.You can try to rejuvenate the tube-but this may only last so long.CRT brightners may prolong the tubes agony a little while longer,too.

Post# 342663 , Reply# 8   2/2/2016 at 08:29 (3,029 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        
If I had my way,

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ALL phlat skreen sets would be in the dumpster and everybody would have RCA, Zenith, Sylvania, and Magnavox consoles in their homes again. These new sets are just plain ugly too. There is absoluteley no design in them like the older sets with the nice cabinets. Just black plastic. I once gave a phlat skreen set away because I hated it so much. Now I have a 1984 RCA console and I love it. I just don't think there is even any reason to have "4K." Whatever that means.

Post# 342677 , Reply# 9   2/2/2016 at 11:32 (3,028 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
We had that EXACT RCA tv

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as the one pictured above! It was wonderful....high tech for its day. Then, sadly, it died. It was great, though. And, for its time, quite expensive!

Post# 342686 , Reply# 10   2/2/2016 at 12:49 (3,028 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        

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I think the above model sold for over $600 new in 1984 with a full function electronic remote, which I have.

Post# 342710 , Reply# 11   2/2/2016 at 16:53 (3,028 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I believe you

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are correct.

 


Post# 342729 , Reply# 12   2/2/2016 at 20:22 (3,028 days old) by dartman (Portland OR)        

You need a digital TV tuner to use any of the old sets now so for most folks they are useless. I used to fix tvs for a money making hobby. Don't do it anymore but still have all the test gear and stuff. My garage used to be full of tvs in various stages of repair and I enjoyed it and had lots of extra money.
Bought my first HDTV a Toshiba 34hfx84 back in 2005 as a 34" CRT set. Weighs 160 pounds and still plays great but finally got a led flat screen and it actually looks great, has excellent black levels and color and is huge.
Problem with many flat screens is they have lousy black levels so picture looks washed out with no contrast. The newest sets depending on what type of screen they use can do almost as good as the best crt sets. OLED can do just as good or better, and some plasmas too if you can afford or find one.
The first RCA color chassis had way better color accuracy but a tiny round tube that also was prone to loosing vacuum and failing early.
People collect them and I redid a few much later round tube sets and most weren't as good as the much later square tube sets becuase of all the advances in pospher technology and overall improved circuitry.
The earliest color set I had was a 61 Magnavox I think and it actually looked OK but my newer Zeniths with the high brigthness sposphers with a black grid around the rgb dots were just way better. Zenith called it their chroma color tube I think. The last sets used vertical color stripes instead of the 3 rgb dots in a repeating grid and all the flat screen sets use a similar setup for the colors.


Post# 342731 , Reply# 13   2/2/2016 at 22:06 (3,028 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        

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I use all my TV's on channel 16 UHF with a Blonder Tongue agile modulator. Way better than having the TV on a coax cable leash.

It looks like I ruined my Karma tooting my own horn about how great CRT sets are. (They are). Just half an hour ago, a large capacitor in my 1984 RCA failed and the picture went haywire.


Post# 342733 , Reply# 14   2/2/2016 at 22:26 (3,028 days old) by dartman (Portland OR)        

Probably one of the big filter caps on the power supply. If your lucky it may be leaking or bloated so you can visually find it.
I never had a capaciter tester back then so visual and voltage plus subing suspects for me. I bet you can buy or download a SAMS manual for that set and troubleshooting will be easy if you know electronics at all, or get your buddy to check it out.


Post# 342737 , Reply# 15   2/2/2016 at 23:21 (3,028 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)        
Memories....

I remember our first color set. It was an Admiral with the round tube. One of the first color series was Bonanza IIRC, Sunday nights I think. It was such a big deal to see it in color. When my dad got to see how cool the westerns were in color, that's when the 4th bedroom became his mancave with new "den" furniture and a color portable purchase, because mom and I were not going to watch westerns! It was also fun to see some of my favorites go from b/w to color, like Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie. Those were the days my friends!

Post# 342755 , Reply# 16   2/3/2016 at 09:43 (3,028 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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We didn't get a color set until 1969. Shortly before Apollo 11 landed on the moon, Dad brought home a 25-inch GE color console to replace our 19-inch black-and-white Zenith with "Space Command" remote. Before we got the color set, I used to feel really ripped off when the announcer would say "The following program is brought to you in living color" and it would be just as black-and-white as everything else.

That said, I kinda missed the "Space Command" remote after we passed the Zenith on to my grandmother. We wouldn't get another set with a remote until the early '90s. But the "Space Command" system was a trip. It had four buttons for power, channel up, channel down, and mute. Each button was connected to an ultrasonic tuning fork--no batteries required. The wild thing was I had a plastic hobby horse that was connected to its tubular metal base with a spring on each leg and when I got going really, really fast on that horse, the squeak of the springs would be the right pitch to turn the TV on! Used to scare the hell out of my mom. Ah, childhood...


Post# 342757 , Reply# 17   2/3/2016 at 09:49 (3,028 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Our first was a Admiral with Remote and we had the antenna rotor on the roof too. Clunk clunk, clunk. Bonanza and Disney's wonderful world of color! On the floor, propped up a few feet away, eyes peeled! It was a moment we all never missed.

Post# 342758 , Reply# 18   2/3/2016 at 09:50 (3,028 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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I want to say that was around 64?

Post# 342798 , Reply# 19   2/3/2016 at 20:24 (3,027 days old) by dartman (Portland OR)        

The first color set we ever had I bought in 74 with my berry picking money I saved all summer. Bought a used Zenith 69 23" console for 115 delivered.
It was my personal set and had them put it in my tiny bedroom, ticked my step dad off to no end but he refused to buy us a color set so I bought my own.
I let him watch Hee Has on it and us kids watched a lot of cartoons and shows on it. Was all tube and would heat my room nicely in the winter. I calibrated the color guns myself so it showed a true b/w picture and tweaked the focus till it was as sharp as it could be.
That sorta started me into TV repair and I started collecting tubes and parts. We never had to buy another set for years as I always had a nice one in stock.


Post# 342806 , Reply# 20   2/3/2016 at 21:37 (3,027 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        

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I have one of the remotes Human is talking about.

I will replacing the old electrolytic in the power supply as soon as I can afford to buy one. It will be at least $15.


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Post# 342831 , Reply# 21   2/4/2016 at 13:47 (3,026 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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Yeah Dave, that one appears to be for an early color set but otherwise pretty much the same as I remember ours except the buttons were all white. Brings back memories...

Post# 342834 , Reply# 22   2/4/2016 at 14:10 (3,026 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Ours looked more like this

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Found this image on eBay. I'm pretty sure this is the one we had. I distinctly remember the oval shaped buttons. It was pretty cool in that you never had to worry about batteries dying because there weren't any. The whole system was pretty rudimentary. The buttons on the remote would activate electromagnetic relays to accomplish the desired function. The TV set had a manual VHF tuner that was essentially motorized. If I recall correctly, you still had to get up and tune the UHF stations by hand. And the relay activated by the mute button made a godawful loud buzzing sound for about a second. I remember being about three or four years old, definitely before I learned to read, figuring out which button did what with the express purpose of teaching myself which button NOT to press!

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Post# 342952 , Reply# 23   2/6/2016 at 04:33 (3,025 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Remember a feind of mine had a "remote control" dog-a small poodle.He would respond when you pushed the buttons a a Space Command remote-One button made the dog come to you,sit,go away from you,or bark.He trained the dog to respond to the remote.Right now I have a Hitachi RP set that has 3 CRTs in it-reproduces 1080 video really well.15 yrs old and counting.CRTs are known reliable display devices.LCD displays are really to young to determine age and reliability.I bought a used RCA color console before my father went to color.He bought a Sony-same with me years later.The Hitachi replaced a 27" Sony-gave that to a freind that needed a TV.2 K video is used in present cinema digital projectors-4 k is the future.The projectors can be upgraded by replacing the light engine-and also adding a laser illumination system.

Post# 343239 , Reply# 24   2/9/2016 at 11:20 (3,021 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        

I have a working 1982 RCA 25 inch colortrak oak swivel base console.
My absolute favorite vintage TV set is the 1969 Zentih Amundsen 23 inch dual speaker console in the Drexel furniture Danish modern walnut cabinet.


Post# 343255 , Reply# 25   2/9/2016 at 13:25 (3,021 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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I remember when our Admiral was about 8 years old? just before it died, when you walked in front of it with change in your pocket it would move the volume I want to say?UP I think Sound I presume

Post# 343463 , Reply# 26   2/11/2016 at 03:00 (3,020 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
Here's something you don't see every day

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Beautiful mid '60's Magnavox color console with sliding tambour doors.



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Post# 343464 , Reply# 27   2/11/2016 at 03:04 (3,020 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
Dramatic Far Eastern Contemporary in Ebony

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Black & white, possibly 27" screen, Astro-Sonic.



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Post# 344877 , Reply# 28   2/21/2016 at 23:43 (3,009 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        
I got the

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1967 RCA Victor CTC-25 home safely. The picture is absolutely phenomenal. Super crisp and sharp with very strong colors.

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Post# 344885 , Reply# 29   2/22/2016 at 02:48 (3,009 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I would be very leary of carrying an unprotected CRT in the back seat of the car-and the chassis sitting on the seat without restraint and no heavy cardboard or wood under it to protect the seat.The few times I carried a set in the car-put it assembled in the trunk without problems-had to tie the trunk lid.If you could haul it in a truck or SUV,the better.Another thought if you can take the legs off the cabinet-this helps.Did this with radio and Hi-Fi consoles,too.

Post# 344890 , Reply# 30   2/22/2016 at 07:11 (3,009 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Nice,

and a vintage Buick to go with it all.

Post# 344940 , Reply# 31   2/22/2016 at 14:43 (3,008 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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my 2 tv's aren't vintage, but late eighties and early nineties. Pictures later...

Post# 348136 , Reply# 32   3/20/2016 at 23:24 (2,981 days old) by countryford (Phoenix, AZ)        

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Post# 348137 , Reply# 33   3/20/2016 at 23:27 (2,981 days old) by countryford (Phoenix, AZ)        

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Here are just a couple of my vintage TVs. The first one is an Admiral. As you can see it still works. The second one is a Magnavox. It currently doesn't work. The third one is an RCA/Zenith. The console is an RCA with a radio/phonograph. Someone at some point removed the RCA TV and installed an 80's Zenith TV. It works. They did such a good job, that you can barely tell. The third one is a Zenith. I picked it up at Goodwill for $1.00. Currently doesn't work. The last one is a Spirit of '76 Zenith. Also works.


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Post# 348151 , Reply# 34   3/21/2016 at 08:31 (2,981 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        
You have

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Some nice TV's, Countryford.

Post# 348282 , Reply# 35   3/22/2016 at 16:49 (2,979 days old) by MPN ()        
Then you saw it . . . now you only see 2/3 of it ! ! !

These old sets are ok if you don't mind ONLY SEEING TWO THIRDS of the picture . . .

I almost had a wet dream when I saw my first OLED set in Costco ! ! !


Post# 348294 , Reply# 36   3/22/2016 at 18:58 (2,979 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        

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If somebody handed me an OLED TV, I'd have a tough choice to make. Sell it or smash it. The title of this thread is "Vintage TV's, anyone?", not "Old TV's suck and modern ones don't."

Post# 348296 , Reply# 37   3/22/2016 at 19:58 (2,979 days old) by MPN ()        
Who said that ? ? ?

"If somebody handed me an OLED TV, I'd have a tough choice to make. Sell it or smash it. The title of this thread is "Vintage TV's, anyone?", not "Old TV's suck and modern ones don't."

It's simply A FACT that the ANALOG (NTSC) Broadcast Standard is NOW OBSOLETE ! ! !

I NEVER said that OLD TVs SUCK, but ya have to admit that DIGITAL (ATSC) TVs ARE LIGHTYEARS BETTER ! ! !

WHY ? ? ?
1. Picture Resolution NEVER IMAGINED with analog TVs.
2. 16:9+ Aspect Ratios - 100% of Digital (ATSC) Broadcast Picture is Viewable.
3. Many have built-in Dolby 7.1 Surround Sound with Subwoofer Output.
4. WiFi to wirelessly beam audio/video from computers, phones/handheld devices.
5. Are easily wall-mountable.

Model Ts were great cars in their day as well as being collectable today, but I'll take my Mercedes on a cross country trip HANDS DOWN in summer temperatures any day. I just LUVS THAT AIR CONDITIONING insteada sittin' in a puddle of sweat ! ! !

You wouldn't just be resentful of things you either aren't willing to buck for, of afford to buy over getting a FREE throw-out TVs would ya ? ? ?

If anyone here has an OLED TV they're contemplating SMASHING, throw it MY WAY ! ! !


Post# 348302 , Reply# 38   3/22/2016 at 22:14 (2,979 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        
You can keep your

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PLASTIC, MADE IN CHINA, THROWAWAY OLED thing, and I'll keep my QUALITY, MADE IN USA, BUILT TO LAST set. I have NO PROBLEM with not having WIFI connectivity or WALL MOUNTABILITY. My TV's will stay where a TV is supposed to be. ON THE FLOOR. And by the way, I was GIVEN a Vizio phlat skreen set several years ago. I HATED it so much that I gave it away.

Post# 348304 , Reply# 39   3/22/2016 at 22:31 (2,979 days old) by MPN ()        
Pssssssssssssssssssttt ! ! !

"And by the way, I was GIVEN a Vizio phlat skreen set several years ago. I HATED it so much that I gave it away."

Tellya what . . . When you get sick and disgusted with those green pieces paper with pitchas of dead presidents on 'em, drop 'em in an envelope and send 'em to me ! ! !


Post# 348307 , Reply# 40   3/22/2016 at 23:12 (2,979 days old) by countryford (Phoenix, AZ)        

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Post# 348309 , Reply# 41   3/22/2016 at 23:15 (2,979 days old) by countryford (Phoenix, AZ)        

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More of my collections.

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Post# 348310 , Reply# 42   3/22/2016 at 23:18 (2,979 days old) by countryford (Phoenix, AZ)        

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I'm with Dave, in that I prefer the CRT TV. If it wasn't for my husband, I wouldn't have a flat-screen TV. As far as over the air TV, I don't care about it. I mainly use my DVD player, VCR, and my laserdisc player.

Post# 348312 , Reply# 43   3/22/2016 at 23:36 (2,979 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        
Thank you, Countryford

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You have some magnificent sets there! I love that roundie on picture 11 of the first set. It looks like a Philco or Sylvania? And the Zenith with the built in Trans-Oceanic must be very rare! I've never seen one.

Post# 348313 , Reply# 44   3/22/2016 at 23:42 (2,979 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        

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Oops, I thought it said Trans Oceanic, but upon closer inspection it appears to say Stromberg Carlson?

Post# 348328 , Reply# 45   3/23/2016 at 03:41 (2,979 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I like 2K-4K resolution OLED sets as well-but I do have a place in my heart for the vintage machines-no,they can't reproduce modern HD but they would be good for watching 4X3 movies and older TV shows.I could live with both--heck you could always use the old console to hold your new OLED TV then use the old set to view old episodes of "Leave It To Beaver","Dennis The Menence" or even orig "Outer Limits" on the old set!Then we could see the new movies on the OLED TV.Best of both! I think they could live together.And by the way like the pictures of the old sets just shown.Makes me think of the small collection I used to have.And I have a collection of pictures of old TV transmitters that would broadcast to these sets.A TV station offered to sell me their 1948 RCA transmitter for a dollar a watt-12Kw,$12 K .But the Tx needs 208-230V 3 ph to run it and a dummy load since I couldn't put it on the air.It could only broadcast monochrome-color wasn't heard of when that Tx was made.But it was a thing of beauty to see it demo'ed-the pretty mercury vapor rectifiers and the all glass tubes.The final tubes in it were an orig RCA design--internal anode-water cooled.At the time that Tx was shown didn't have any cameras-now I would have taken shots of it with my IPhone!Guess I drifted enough-back to old TV's!If I see any nice ones at yard sales or swap shops-will get them.

Post# 348329 , Reply# 46   3/23/2016 at 04:17 (2,979 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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Those are some beautiful TV sets there. All of mine are CRT. I wouldn't mind having one flat screen, but is it normal for the figures on a flat, wide screen to be squashed so that everyone looks fat? Maybe it's just the one set I see like that. I have a friend with a 17" plasma set that looks wonderful. I know they don't make plasmas anymore. If I make the move to something new, it would be about the same dimensions as a 27" CRT picture.


Post# 348330 , Reply# 47   3/23/2016 at 04:36 (2,979 days old) by MPN ()        
Ya got that bassakwards . . .

" I wouldn't mind having one flat screen, but is it normal for the figures on a flat, wide screen to be squashed so that everyone looks fat?"

The olden-days logic that TV adds 15lbs. to everyone is based on the convex bow of the front of the CRT screen. I had a flat-screen CRT Proscan monitor that did not distort image linearity and proportioning.

The ONLY time what you say would be true is if the aspect ratio was incorrectly set on the cable, DVR, or satellite box . . .


Post# 348332 , Reply# 48   3/23/2016 at 06:33 (2,979 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

The set is not set up properly same could be with the source-like DVD player,cable,sat box,etc.Go into their setup menues and set them to generally 16X9.Then strange figures go away.The curved screens on CRT sets can distort even more.In CRT sets you have the "pincushion" adjustments to try to cure this-but doesn't always work-some sets its OK,others not.

Post# 348339 , Reply# 49   3/23/2016 at 09:42 (2,979 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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The 'short, fat' look occurs if you have the TV set to stretch a 4:3 image to fill the screen horizontally. My flat screens also offer two non-distorting options for 4:3 images. One option is to show the full 4:3 image without stretching it horizontally. The screen is filled top-to-bottom but has blank space on the sides, kind of the reverse of when movies were shown in "letterbox" format on 4:3 CRT screens back in the '90s. The other option is to zoom the image to fill the full screen side-to side and cut off a bit at the top and bottom. I usually do the former. The blank space at the sides doesn't bother me.

Vintage TV sets are cool as historical artifacts but unlike, say, vacuum cleaners, technology has passed them by. To me, an older, even 1990s vintage, TV set just isn't a workable option anymore but I do prefer older household appliances like vacuum cleaners, mixers, stereo equipment, etc., because they function better, are built to last--and more importantly are designed to be repaired--and can be had for a fraction of the price of their modern plasticrap counterparts.

That said, I do think digital broadcast TV is a total crock in that reception seems to be pretty much all-or-nothing. And I really have to laugh at how predictive of modern digital TV stutter Max Headroom was back in the '80s. I'm fortunate where I live that I can pick up about eight stations with an antenna, giving me about 24 channels and sub-channels, but my girlfriend, who lives only four miles away, can pick up only one station. For me, Internet connectivity is key to TV viewing. I stream pretty much everything these days, watching it on MY schedule. Thanks to my ROKU box, 'Nothing on TV' is now a technologically obsolete concept.


Post# 348352 , Reply# 50   3/23/2016 at 12:23 (2,978 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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Thanks for the input, it's the way the set is adjusted then. I intend to look at one before I buy it. The one I saw where the images are distorted is hooked up in a storage company, for the entertainment of the manager, not for serious watching. I remember the "TV adds 15 lbs thing from years back, so when the flat screen is set so people and other images look natural, I would have no problem with it. I do know too, that new broadcasting has black on the top and bottom of the picture, which doesn't bother me. Letterbox movies don't bother me either, unless there's more black on top and bottom than there is image. 


Post# 348373 , Reply# 51   3/23/2016 at 16:01 (2,978 days old) by Brando_husky (Las Vegas Nevada)        

Don't get me wrong I adore the styling of vintage televisions and the nostalgia behind them but we all know technology has had the greatest impact on quality of sets recently. With vacuums we can say they were potentially better performers than some new stuff but we all know the picture quality only gets better with time on a television.

I'd love to retrofit an old set with a modern hd tv screen.


Also can't argue the weight benefits of non crt flat screen televisions haha. I sure don't miss moving those beasts anymore.


Post# 348374 , Reply# 52   3/23/2016 at 16:17 (2,978 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        

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"I'd love to retrofit an old set with a modern hd tv screen"

WHY‽‽‽ You would RUIN that vintage TV! I just do not understand all this crap about how technology has progressed with TV's. The picture on my 1966 RCA Victor is PERFECTLY FINE!


Post# 348376 , Reply# 53   3/23/2016 at 16:27 (2,978 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        
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If you could delete all replies #35 and newer, that would be super. Or better yet just delete the whole thing.

Post# 348409 , Reply# 54   3/23/2016 at 20:15 (2,978 days old) by countryford (Phoenix, AZ)        

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Why delete? I may not agree with others opinions on TV, they are entitled to them. I also don't agree with destroying a beautiful vintage TV, just to install a flat-screen TV, but in the end, it is their TV and they can do with it as they please.

Post# 348424 , Reply# 55   3/24/2016 at 00:14 (2,978 days old) by dartman (Portland OR)        

The oldest color set I ever saw( not working) was a Crosly color caster prototype from 1948. The guy I used to buy my rebuilt CRTs from was given it in the early 50's and his son told me he remembered watching the Rose parade back then when it was one of the first color broadcasts in Portland. Had a tiny round color tube, probably around 15 inches and a tall skinny cabinet with probably multiple chassis.
Oldest set I had that worked was a 48 Stromberg? that had mostly 6 volt radio tubes running it.
I like my newish 50" Sony led set and really want a OLED like I said becuase they have the best black levels and color of any flat panel set and look as good as a CRT set in that regard.
The oldest sets need to be saved just to show young folks where we came from, and the first prototypes were built and working in the early 20s.


Post# 348430 , Reply# 56   3/24/2016 at 03:22 (2,978 days old) by MPN ()        

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Post# 348498 , Reply# 57   3/24/2016 at 20:05 (2,977 days old) by kenkart ()        
Ill weigh in on this

The color on a vintage set, especially a round tube is MUCH more natural than the new stuff, the new TVs look garish and too bright, its kind of like watching Gone With The Wind, the color is so much more natural than any new movie....Of course I hate ANYTHING new!

Post# 348584 , Reply# 58   3/26/2016 at 01:10 (2,976 days old) by speedqueen (Harrison Twp MI)        
Where to find Replacement CRT tubes???

I am considering the purchase of a vintage matched set of early '60s (I think) Zenith Credenza console television and separate console stereo. Record player doesn't turn (I can fix that) but the TV doesn't get a raster. I know the tuner works because I when looking I over managed to get the sound of a low power analog.

Is it possible to obtain replacement CRT picture tubes and if so where.

I do know that the CRT is a worst case scenario, but I would like to bet conservatively with my 100 dollars.


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Post# 348595 , Reply# 59   3/26/2016 at 03:34 (2,976 days old) by dartman (Portland OR)        

Well, hard to say if anyone still rebuilds or sells new tubes. Back when I was really fixing TV's a lot I could get any tube I wanted new or rebuilt. IF it was very rare they would rebuild my core for me.
I think typical price in the late 80's early 90's was 90 to 120. Sony tubes, at least the big 26 inch ones, were way more money and the big 26" ones did not last long at all new or rebuilt.
Google might be your friend as many tubes interchange and you might be able to find one that's been sitting around unused with some luck.
I don't think anyone makes tube based sets any more so doubt there's much demand, or anyone doing them but who knows. Obviously there are folks collecting and restoring these things and anything else electronic so who knows whats out there now. You can still buy new Russian receive and audio tubes and used ones still show up in huge batches. I've got boxes full myself going back to the 20's I collected when I started fixing TV's and radios back in the days when you still needed them to fix good but slightly older or cheaper sets.


Post# 348599 , Reply# 60   3/26/2016 at 06:25 (2,976 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Richard,

It would be awesome if you could restore those Zeniths to working order and appearance.
In any case, the cabinets look like they were made by Drexel Furniture company.
"Zenith hand crafted" Hi Fi and Television.
If worse comes to worse, and you can't get them working, you can always make them into an aquarium, display cabinet, or beverage center.


Post# 348609 , Reply# 61   3/26/2016 at 08:32 (2,976 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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I ONLY USE CTR Televisions and CRT Computer Monitors. They are much better
on a side note, the tv in my shop has started making a funny noise. i hope its not bad!


Post# 348618 , Reply# 62   3/26/2016 at 10:42 (2,976 days old) by countryford (Phoenix, AZ)        

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Richard,
There are no companies that rebuild or manufacture crt anymore. You may be able to locate a nos one, but it would be difficult.
I would take a picture tube tester and test it. Although $100 for the two of those are a steal. I'd buy them without knowing if the picture tube is good.


Post# 348632 , Reply# 63   3/26/2016 at 16:46 (2,975 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        

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The Early Television Foundation in Hilliard, OH is working on rebuilding CRT's, but they're not there yet.

Post# 348679 , Reply# 64   3/26/2016 at 23:03 (2,975 days old) by dartman (Portland OR)        

I have two Beltron picture tube rejuvinaters. They were one of the best ones made and many tubes the guns are just dirty and need a cleaning rather then a full rejuvenation which can push a weak tube over the edge.
I bought my second one off eBay for about 25 shipped. It had a bunch of custom updates and all the adapters and sockets. They made many different types out there back in the day and I also have one made by RCA. It had some unique features but overall the Beltrons did a better job.
If you do a eBay search for CRT rejuvinater you might be able to find one cheap. It made my used TV output much better as I could save bad picture tubes and make a good working TV that looked good.
I actually had to rewire my newest one but luckily having my other well used one as a pattern I got it going and all the updates worked great.
Last tube I did was a Sony 36" HD set that was given to my mom. The set looked as good as new but true to my experience with the big Sony tubes it lasted less then a year and the guns shorted when I hit it again. Dang thing weighed over 200 pounds and we scrapped it as not worth trying to save again.
That can be a option if you can find a retired TV tech or find one used to buy. You can contact me if you find one and I can walk you through how to use one without frying the tube. The Zenith tubes always seemed to take a cleaning or rejuvenation and last a long time afterwards.


Post# 348785 , Reply# 65   3/27/2016 at 20:46 (2,974 days old) by tazcatsdad (Buffalo, NY)        
Here is my vintage TV set

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It is a 1979 MGA Mitsubishi Electric 15" Color TV with ultrasonic remote control, model CS-1592.  As you can see from the pictures, it still has its original remote control and is in perfect working condition!

 

Bill W.


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