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Thread Number: 28454
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Hilariously angry sounding Electrolux turbo brush |
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| Post# 317826 3/9/2015 at 07:25 (3,335 days old) by Mike81 () | ||
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Combination of loose fabric and high speed brush roll. I can't think of any other reason why this is so aggressive? However I had a fun time using this :) | ||
| Post# 317839 , Reply# 1 3/9/2015 at 10:47 (3,335 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Good video although that "loose" fabric isn't all that loose since it seems to be elasticated and covers the entire secondary mattress.
The design of the turbo brush is pretty much the same as many on the market; they're all noisy. I don't think I have experienced a low noise one unless of course you put the machine into the low speed if available, but then at the detriment of pick up. It is one thing that brands seem to forget about; the noise of air driven turbo brushes. | ||
| Post# 317847 , Reply# 3 3/9/2015 at 12:47 (3,335 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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In the UK most owners with cylinders don't have a PN. Already some members on here prefer the air driven turbo brushes.
In my experience it doesn't matter whether the brush roll is soft or aggressive, or for the fact that it may have a floating mechanism - what really improves pick up in my experience are air outlet sliders, or air valves. It looks like there is a vent on the back of that turbo brush you have on the rear right hand side. Both my Miele and SEBO wessel werk style floor heads don't slow down on high pile, provided that the air slider is open. I also have a Hoover turbo brush (similar to the ones fitted to the Maytag Constellation) and it also has a rather handy air slider. I might add thought that not all carpets are great with turbo brushes. I have found really thick pile to be a struggle with some air driven heads, but in general, I like the added fact that for the most part, air driven turbo brushes are lighter to push and lift up compared to PN's - the PN with my SEBO K3 is too heavy. I don't use it much. | ||
| Post# 317848 , Reply# 4 3/9/2015 at 12:57 (3,335 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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I'm not keen on turbo brushes. The noise is soooooooo annoying and a lot of the airflow is used up spinning the brush. | ||
| Post# 317849 , Reply# 5 3/9/2015 at 12:59 (3,335 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I like them. I have recommend many to people who are on tight budgets, who have a very effective suction only cylinder vac and who really needed to buy an upright for carpets. When the prices at the time were too high, the cheaper alternative is an air driven turbo brush.
Link to a review to someone I "helped." CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK
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| Post# 317850 , Reply# 6 3/9/2015 at 13:05 (3,335 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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If they have a tight budget I'd recommend getting a used Sebo upright on ebay. I prefer an upright on carpet. A cylinder for hard floors and above floors. Turbo brushes are good if you are hard of hearing :-) | ||
| Post# 317851 , Reply# 7 3/9/2015 at 13:13 (3,335 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I wouldn't, despite my name sake.
Sebo uprights aren't for everyone. Same as Numatics or a Miele. One has to remember that even if a SEBO is great for long term reliability and cleaning performance, other factors have to be taken into consideration: 1) Size of home for usage of the actual vacuum. 2) Types of carpet and floors the machine must be able to clean on. 3) Considerations of family usage or main user; whether they want something cost effective and long lasting as well as being practical and versatile. 4) Fast and effective cleaning - something that in my opinion the automatic sensor X uprights aren't always great for. The Felix is faster, down to its manual height adjustment, or even any of the SEBO cylinder vacs with air driven floor heads. 5) General pricing and availability of spares INCLUDING the factor that not all buyers want to shop ONLINE all of the time. 6) Actual COST PRICE of the vacuum in question and then factor in the costs of additional stuff like filters, bags etc. Fine if you live in a place that has major franchises like Currys, Argos and JL nearby for SEBO spares, but if not you're sunk and restricted to online shopping. Don't preach to me about it -I live in an area where we are severely restricted by public transport, so I HAVE to do online shopping mostly all of the time. | ||
| Post# 317852 , Reply# 8 3/9/2015 at 13:17 (3,335 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Another thing I love about air driven turbo brushes is that there are no cables attached. You can also fix it onto the main handle for cleaning stairs, use it in the car like on the backs of seats or boots but crucially, mostly all are just not all that heavy.
They're not all the same though - some can't be opened up for ease of cleaning, others don't have rubber squeegees for hard floor cleaning whilst others are poorly made. | ||
| Post# 317863 , Reply# 11 3/9/2015 at 15:15 (3,335 days old) by Mike81 () | ||
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I have to add that I have recommended turbo brushes to several people. Like been said here it's easy way witout all the cables and the weight. But I personally use the powerhead instead. Difference powerhead vs Wessel Werk (copy) turbo brush: | ||
| Post# 317864 , Reply# 12 3/9/2015 at 15:19 (3,335 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Nice video Mike. I'd prefer a powerhead might be a little heavier than a turbo brush bit it's still light enough. :-) | ||
| Post# 317865 , Reply# 13 3/9/2015 at 15:28 (3,335 days old) by Mike81 () | ||
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Thanks! Yes I agree. Powerhead for me too :) | ||
| Post# 317880 , Reply# 15 3/9/2015 at 19:21 (3,335 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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You misread me Marcus. Whilst I will happily recommend a SEBO vacuum or Miele to anyone, it is usually knowing how much they are likely to spend before I can recommend anything.
When someone asks me for a good bagged upright that isn't expensive to buy, SEBO is far from my thoughts because buyers are looking to buy BRAND NEW and they want something tipping the scales at £100 and no more. SEBO don't yet have an upright on the market brand new that costs £100. So, my recommendation either comes down to the cheap and cheerful Electrolux/Zanussi Powerlite OR those faithful Panasonic bagged uprights. Where bagless is concerned, the Vax Mach Air Reach. In my opinion it has always offered top value. Where bagged cylinder vacs are concerned, the Bosch BSGL3 series; they are usually priced below £100 or good old Henry. | ||
| Post# 317881 , Reply# 16 3/9/2015 at 19:30 (3,335 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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A little bit heavier | ||
| Post# 317882 , Reply# 17 3/9/2015 at 19:35 (3,335 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 317905 , Reply# 19 3/10/2015 at 07:10 (3,334 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Firstly, even if a SEBO X4 can be picked up second hand, buyers want NEW. Very few will consider second hand.
Secondly, second hand SEBO uprights can often be abused. I've learnt my lesson there. I don't hook on every listing on EBay with the hope that the machine has been properly serviced. "Refurbished" to a lot of sellers means a new brush roll, a new filter and a new bag installed. They forget to check the drive belt though which is often missing teeth, let alone the rest of the machine inside. SEBO parts have forever been available via their national telephone number - but most buyers of " generation " that prefers bagged vacs these days don't tend to like passing their credit/debit card details on a phone or even online. As for the 2.4 kg SEBO PN. Well that's just the PN weight itself Marcus. No point in considering that alone if the weght of the additional cylinder model behind it OR the Felix isn't taken into consideration as well! Generally the people who have asked me on the recommendation of an upright bagged vac are looking for something light and easy. And they are not always the "infirm and elderly." Light and easy usually translates to something like 4 to 5kg, in which the question of a cylinder vac soon arises because there aren't that many uprights that weigh that. Then for carpets, the option of a turbo brush comes in if those buyers concerned can't get past the heavier weight issue of the uprights.. That's the main issue these days where bagged uprights are concerned; there doesn't seem to be that very many of them unless you go down the premium route. | ||
| Post# 317910 , Reply# 21 3/10/2015 at 07:48 (3,334 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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This reminds me of when I sold my Miele S6 Ecoline briefly 2 (or it may have been 3) years ago to a lady who was more or less a right pain in the A**. She was impressed with the cleaning ability of the Miele, she loved the ease of lightness, but oh no she wasn't going to pay any more than £50. She had already tried Bosch but didn't like the quality and noted bags for the model were hard to find at local nearby franchises (at the time) like Currys, Tesco or Argos.
She kept on at me periodically in the same month to reduce the price. No way. It was in good condition, the model hadn't picked up pet hair and of the use it did have, the body only showed up one scratch that could barely be seen. It went on for another month with constant calls and meetings to keep trying the Miele. She didn't want bagless because she has allergies. She didn't want an upright because she lives with hard floors (cue the allergies again). She didn't like the bent handle on the Miele as it wasn't grippy enough (but loved the Comfort handle on my S5 at the time and wanted that part), She didn't want to have to clean filters ( another reason again to why she loved the Miele) but she also noted that the Miele tubes were a bit heavy. She didn't like the standard double twin Eco floor head that came with the Miele as standard (she liked the older one fitted to my S5) - oh it went on and on! Meanwhile Which had pasted a "Best Buy" on the model in question. That made it all the worse! She adores Which and awards in general. She may have thought that the constant moaning about life and her lack of physical abilities may drain me down eventually but I didn't relent. There was no way I would sell my Miele S6 for £50!! Then one day she phoned to say that whilst she really loved all the design elements, she probably wouldn't buy the vacuum because of her "poor back," she couldn't bend down to the floor to pull out the cord. Talk about being patient! IN the end, she bought the Miele S6, but only on account that I gently reminded her that if she gets up "every day wearing a jumper," that usually lives under her bed since it has pull out drawers, then she was BENDING to the floor all the time! Whilst I know that people CAN buy SEBOs and that SEBOs are good and hardy vacs, sometimes even the best in class can't always please everyone, cue the example above! | ||
| Post# 317913 , Reply# 22 3/10/2015 at 07:56 (3,334 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Oh this is true. You can't please all of the people all of the time. I've had some pain in the arse customers but because I don't want to ruin my good reputation I do all I can to make the customer happy. | ||
| Post# 317914 , Reply# 23 3/10/2015 at 08:00 (3,334 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 317915 , Reply# 24 3/10/2015 at 08:03 (3,334 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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I'm a male escort | ||
| Post# 317916 , Reply# 25 3/10/2015 at 08:18 (3,334 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 317917 , Reply# 26 3/10/2015 at 08:23 (3,334 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Hahahahaha! Good one :-p | ||
| Post# 317971 , Reply# 27 3/11/2015 at 08:30 (3,333 days old) by Mike81 () | ||
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I found interesting turbo head comparison video. Miele did a nice job, Dyson was weak, but Hoover was amazingly good. | ||
| Post# 317972 , Reply# 28 3/11/2015 at 08:36 (3,333 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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When someone says Dysons agitation is poor I always put this video by Oliver up They are certainly not poor anymore :-) CLICK HERE TO GO TO marcusprit's LINK | ||
| Post# 317982 , Reply# 29 3/11/2015 at 11:06 (3,333 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 317985 , Reply# 31 3/11/2015 at 11:13 (3,333 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Yes this is true Nar an Air driven turbo brush is different to an electric driven power brush. :)Which is why i prefer electric driven. Their latest air driven powerheads are much improved too. And before you mention it Nar yes i have used them :) | ||
| Post# 317987 , Reply# 32 3/11/2015 at 11:22 (3,333 days old) by Mike81 () | ||
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Yes. For example powerhead can literally lift the carpet, turbine head not even close. This is just my own experience. | ||
| Post# 317988 , Reply# 33 3/11/2015 at 11:30 (3,333 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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And mine Mike.When the power goes down to 900w max that's not gonna help the performance of turbo brushes. | ||
| Post# 318396 , Reply# 35 3/15/2015 at 13:38 (3,329 days old) by scooby214 (Oklahoma City, OK) | ||
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Wessel Werk How well do the Wessel Werk TK 270 and TK 284 perform. How do you like them compared to your other brushes? | ||
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