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which is better dual cyclone or root cyclone |
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Post# 273623   3/27/2014 at 05:01 (3,683 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 273624 , Reply# 1   3/27/2014 at 05:03 (3,683 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 273625 , Reply# 2   3/27/2014 at 05:05 (3,683 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 273639 , Reply# 3   3/27/2014 at 08:20 (3,683 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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I think Root does have more airflow, but I do have a soft spot for Dual Cyclone machines, not least because they are easier to strip down and clean, and don't do what the DC07 in your picture does (and I've seen many examples of it!) |
Post# 273648 , Reply# 4   3/27/2014 at 11:31 (3,683 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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I like all Dysons from DC01 to DC33, DC44 is another nice latest Dyson Root cyclone is better I guess, but does get dirty!!! The DC07 malaysian modela are screamers |
Post# 273651 , Reply# 5   3/27/2014 at 11:47 (3,683 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 273678 , Reply# 6   3/27/2014 at 14:43 (3,683 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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How can you not like the DC14 but like the DC07? |
Post# 273684 , Reply# 7   3/27/2014 at 15:48 (3,683 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 273695 , Reply# 8   3/27/2014 at 16:50 (3,683 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 274754 , Reply# 10   4/4/2014 at 14:47 (3,675 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)   |   | |
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Post# 274756 , Reply# 11   4/4/2014 at 14:54 (3,675 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)   |   | |
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It's funny how the Dyson "Core Separator" technology (aka Level 3 Root Cyclone) seems to have become a dead-end technology. Maybe the patents have expired. |
Post# 274758 , Reply# 12   4/4/2014 at 14:57 (3,675 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)   |   | |
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Post# 274773 , Reply# 13   4/4/2014 at 16:36 (3,675 days old) by ManchesterVacs (Manchester)   |   | |
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There is a lot to be said for the DC04. The DC33 - years later - is running on many of the same parts anyway. That says a lot. |
Post# 274879 , Reply# 14   4/5/2014 at 13:18 (3,674 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)   |   | |
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My favourite Dyson has to be the DC04. Simple, solid engineering and a decent performer compared to most modern plastic vacs. |
Post# 276532 , Reply# 15   4/16/2014 at 16:20 (3,663 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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DC04 Constant max- I have both versions, this and the later Steel/Orange version... |
Post# 276533 , Reply# 16   4/16/2014 at 16:27 (3,663 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()   |   | |
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My favourite Dyson has to be the DC04 - as mentioned before, simple engineering, a breeze to refurbish & they still sell like Hotcakes on Facebook! |
Post# 276536 , Reply# 18   4/16/2014 at 16:43 (3,663 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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DC04 Pink and Purple, and yes, despite the fact I don't like modern Dysons, I did like the older models a lot. I still do own all these machines. |
Post# 276537 , Reply# 19   4/16/2014 at 16:53 (3,663 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()   |   | |
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That DC04 DeStijl looks pristine Steve! |
Post# 276543 , Reply# 21   4/17/2014 at 03:09 (3,662 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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WOW! I would love a DC15 and DC14. Well done :) Looks like you need a new DC14 Animal cyclone though because of the discolouration |
Post# 276750 , Reply# 28   4/17/2014 at 16:07 (3,662 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Parwaz786 did you not found the build quality of the DC40 the same as the DC41? Being it is a smaller version of the DC41? Dyson call the so called current ball vacuums the V Ball. Like you say it's not like the original ball versions. Dyson changed it to streamline the ball as customers had issues with the other ones with cleaning along skirting boards and under kitchen cupboards against the plinths.
I don't like the idea the DC40 only has one row of brushes along both brushroll parts where as the DC41 has 2 although in 2 different lengths each side. I think the issue with the new ball vacuums as you say parwaz786 is that the DC41 doesn't clean so well I think is down to the new soleplate design where it seals in the suction. Surely that restricts the airflow to a degree and allowing it to stick to the floor making it hard to push (which I have read some reviews about this!) obviously depending on type of flooring. Not all users have plush think carpet or fairly new carpet where the airflow can flow freely through the carpet pile. If the pile is worn or down trodden that surely would restrict airflow through the carpet pile. Where as a vacuum with a height control set to the correct height allows air flow to freely flow into the vacuum head which allows the carpet to be lifted up to the cleaner head to clean efficiently. Just my thoughts on the matter! I agree there madabouthoovers I do think the later Dyson vacuums are over engineered. I like you loved the earlier Dyson vacuums. I still watch what Mr Dyson and his Team are up to see what new technology appears. I also agree about the easy to clear blockages of old Dyson models compared to the later ones. As the vacuums have got smaller. Again you only have to read customer comments on Dyson Facebook page in particular the DC39, DC49 and DC50 where air paths are narrow and hard to get at. The DC49 and DC50 the air paths go through the centre of the bin to enter the main cyclone which users say get blocked. The DC49 users complain the narrow air path that goes under the bin where the hose connects to gets blocked again hard to unblock. One user complain he could get at the internal hose on the DC50 that runs through the V ball that connects to the main cleaning head! Compare them to the earlier models that had easy removal blockage ports, same size air paths through the machine making them easy to remove any block or detect one! One Dyson vacuum I like but lacked power (IMO) was the DC03, slim light and laid flat to the floor which no other Dyson upright does! You could go under low furniture etc with it.....Dyson answer is to buy the additional tools or a digital slim to do that, well thats what I was once told when I asked if thy could design a vacuum that could do this now the DC03 is no more! I don't know why Dyson didn't develop this design further, at least they would still offer a wheeled upright. The ball is hear to stay, they don't think they are missing out not offering anything else! |
Post# 276761 , Reply# 30   4/17/2014 at 16:37 (3,662 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 276763 , Reply# 31   4/17/2014 at 16:40 (3,662 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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The problem was people moaned about the early models and especially the DC15 first ball model being too heavy. That's why the DC03 did so well, particularly with old folks, as it was a lighter model to pick up. |
Post# 276765 , Reply# 32   4/17/2014 at 16:44 (3,662 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()   |   | |
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I never thought the DC03 had much suction power though. |
Post# 276766 , Reply# 33   4/17/2014 at 16:49 (3,662 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 276768 , Reply# 34   4/17/2014 at 16:53 (3,662 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 276769 , Reply# 35   4/17/2014 at 16:56 (3,662 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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I think the DC03 only had a 700w motor, and as mine is in the loft, I'm not going up there to check lol |
Post# 276772 , Reply# 36   4/17/2014 at 17:22 (3,662 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 276775 , Reply# 38   4/17/2014 at 17:56 (3,662 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 276776 , Reply# 39   4/17/2014 at 18:01 (3,662 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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You could always bid on the NIB Dysons on Ebay at the moment, theres a DC01, DC04's DC05, DC07 and DC14 all new in box (in case you had missed the hysteria about these that's dominated Vacuumland this last week!) |
Post# 276837 , Reply# 40   4/18/2014 at 03:46 (3,661 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Yes Steve, but regarding the DC41, It never had good suction from the hose or the cleaner head! IT was so easy to push, you can just feel the brush bar rotating. I would rather use a DC01 |
Post# 276844 , Reply# 41   4/18/2014 at 04:07 (3,661 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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Why don't you bid for the DC01 from CeeJay? Its a bargain Tayyab! |
Post# 276845 , Reply# 42   4/18/2014 at 04:20 (3,661 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Nah, I don't really want it TBH, and we do have a DC01, so it's not really got any novelty for me :P I last had a DC03 in 2006, so Iwant one, espeically new if Cee Jay has one? |
Post# 276848 , Reply# 43   4/18/2014 at 04:36 (3,661 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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I'm sure Josh (Dys0nb0y) wants the new DC01, he wants both the DC04's and the DC05 turbo as well, now he really IS a Dyson fanatic. |
Post# 276884 , Reply# 44   4/18/2014 at 11:36 (3,661 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)   |   | |
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I find Dual Cyclone the better cyclonic system. The DC04 in particular separates about 80% of dust from the air flow, and compared to a DC07, it's much quieter as the Cyclone action doesn't 'scream' like on some DC07s. |
Post# 276886 , Reply# 45   4/18/2014 at 11:45 (3,661 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()   |   | |
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I think I prefer Dual Cyclone TBH - it's a lot easier to clean out & it also leaves room inside the dust bin for the dirt instead of being taken up by a Cyclone System. |
Post# 276951 , Reply# 46   4/18/2014 at 14:49 (3,661 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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