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Difference(s) between Electrolux Grand Marquise and Legacy (both Model 1521) 		[Down to Last]

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Post# 272311   3/17/2014 at 21:46 (3,692 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Hello,

Since both the Electrolux Grand Marquise/1521 and Legacy Model/1521 were painted sand with blue-gray trim, and since neither came with a name label how can one tell the difference?

I know that the Legacy was made in different models, so I'm not talking about those. Just the original Legacy model 1521.

Interestingly, the Model 1521s that followed, the Ultraluxes, had the reverse colors; and at least one of them had textured chrome on the top rather than being painted.

Post# 272368 , Reply# 1   3/18/2014 at 09:16 (3,691 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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If I remember correctly the only way to tell was the serial numbers. They had different letters but I cant remember what they were. Can anyone fill us in on this. Its a question I have been wondering about too.

Post# 273167 , Reply# 2   3/23/2014 at 18:01 (3,686 days old) by ronni (USA)        

I was curious about this, too, so I contacted Aerus. Here is what I was told:

The prefix and suffix are unique to each model. The Grand Marquise models typically have the prefix M and the suffix F. The metal Legacy canisters typically have the prefix M and the suffix L.

Incidentally, the Grand Marquise was manufactured around 1989 to 1990, and the Legacy was manufactured around 1991 to 1992. They are, indeed, identical. The Ultraluxes came afterward. All were Model 1521 versions except the plastic-bodied Ultralux.

While the Diamond Jubilee (the first of the Model 1521s) had a white hose with jade (dark green) colored chevron tracers and the next unit, the Marquise, had a white hose with taupe-colored chevron tracers I believe the rest of the 1521s had the same hose as the Silverado/model 1505: a white hose with blue chevron tracers. I'm not certain about the Ultralux Commemorative Edition though.

I am also uncertain what the original power nozzles were for all versions of the 1521s. It seems that the DJ had the sand-colored PN-5 (with jade-colored background on the nameplate), the Marquise had the PN-6A with the taupe trim, but the others may have had the 1622 and 1692 (sand-colored with blue trim) or others.

The economy counterparts to the standard 1521s were the sand/jade Model 1453 (DJ), the sand/jade L-E/model 2100 (DJ), the sand/taupe L-E/model 2100 (Marquise) , and the sand/blue Ambassador III (model unknown; Grand Marquise, Legacy, Ultralux LX, Ultralux Classic, Ultralux Commemorative Edition).

The plastic-bodied Ultralux (model unknown)--without a suffix or classification--was marketed in stores or catalogs.

Sorry, I know this is more information than you'd requested but once I get going it's hard to stop!


Post# 273185 , Reply# 3   3/23/2014 at 19:56 (3,686 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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The Silverado & Silverado Special had a light gray hose with dark gray chevron-patterned tracing, not white/blue.

Post# 273188 , Reply# 4   3/23/2014 at 20:00 (3,686 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Thanks for the info. The serial no thing will help a lot.

Post# 273563 , Reply# 5   3/26/2014 at 19:14 (3,683 days old) by ronni (USA)        

You're welcome for the information.

Regarding the color of the Silverado hose thanks for the clarification. I used to have a Silverado, and its hose looked white and blue to me. However, it may have been a replacement hose.

Sometime I'd like to see a thread of close-ups of all the Electrolux braided hoses to use as a reference. Here's my feeble attempt to compare the Silverado hose with the Ultralux hose:

Silverado -



Post# 273564 , Reply# 6   3/26/2014 at 19:15 (3,683 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Ultralux Classic -

Post# 308605 , Reply# 7   12/12/2014 at 15:59 (3,422 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Ok - new mystery here - I just got a Grand Marquis or Legacy given to me - serial number is M01502B - Anyone have any idea if its a GM or a Leg????

Post# 308610 , Reply# 8   12/12/2014 at 16:31 (3,422 days old) by Ctvacman (CT)        

The grand marquis used a pn-6 where as the legacy introduced the newer style ( can't remember the model), it was the same style used on the first ultralux which had ultra lux printed on the back of the machine and was not a sticker.

I know that between my ultralux LX and ultralux classic they redid the pivot assembly for the classic (blue hood nozzle) so that in the upright position the wand leans forward more to prevent tipping.

Post# 308626 , Reply# 9   12/12/2014 at 19:12 (3,422 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Unfortunately the power nozzle with this machine isn't original at all so that doesn't tell me anything :(


Post# 308630 , Reply# 10   12/12/2014 at 19:46 (3,422 days old) by Ctvacman (CT)        

I have a brochure, if I get time I'll upload to clarify what I mean.

Post# 308634 , Reply# 11   12/12/2014 at 20:21 (3,422 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Just to throw out a different idea - If we assume that they just continued the serial numbers would it not make sense that it would have started with M-----A and continued at least through M-----L or more. In that case a M01502B would be a fairly early number which would make this a Grand Marquis.

Post# 308655 , Reply# 12   12/12/2014 at 22:31 (3,422 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Doug -

Re: The sequential serial prefixes/suffixes on Electrolux machines your conclusion is logical. However, it seems to me that Electrolux did not always use serial letters sequentially. I would suggest contacting Aerus to see if they can help. I have given them serial #s before, and they have identified the year of production. While I don't recall which machine info. I gave, I think the company's records go back to the 1980s. Let us know what you find out.

Regarding power nozzles I wonder if these were the ones for the Grand Marquise/1521 (Model PN-6A) and the Legacy/1521 (PN-1751)? The lighted ones did not make their debut until the Ultralux LX. I believe they would have updated the black (or jade?) PN-6 used with the later Diamond J/1521s with the PN-6As, but I may be mistaken.

Check out this thread for more possibilities: www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...

1. PN-6A
2. PN-1751

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Post# 308661 , Reply# 13   12/12/2014 at 23:14 (3,422 days old) by ronni (USA)        
Re: Legacy and Ultralux Power Nozzles

 I also wonder if the Legacy/1521 and Ultralux/1521 were factory-paired with PN-7s as some of the plastic tanks had PN-7Bs. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to locate a photo of a PN-7 (the last of the single-digit PN model #s).

Post# 308692 , Reply# 14   12/13/2014 at 09:01 (3,421 days old) by Ctvacman (CT)        

Yes that's them!! The first nozzle belonged to the grand marquis and the second one was introduced on the legacy then to become the first ultralux. The PN 1751 had a different base plate compared to the pn-5,6. Although lux did continue to use that hood from the grand marquis for the central vac with the base plate of the 1751.

Post# 308726 , Reply# 15   12/13/2014 at 16:36 (3,421 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Yep I knew about the different power nozzles but this machine didn't have the original one with it so no way to tell :(

Post# 308744 , Reply# 16   12/13/2014 at 20:59 (3,421 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Ok-Doug. I went back to your reply (#7) and saw that you weren't searching for the original power nozzle but just trying to determine the name of your tank. Hopefully, Aerus will be able to tell you. If you check out my reply (#2) above you'll see that I contacted them about the serial ids (which I'd forgotten), so now I'm more confident that they will have the information.

Best wishes! Keep us posted.

Post# 345605 , Reply# 17   2/27/2016 at 13:59 (2,980 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi guys:

Finally found a way to tell the difference between the Grand Marquis and the Legacy. The Light Grey plastic on the ends (Cord reel and bag cover) on the Grand Marquis is smooth. When the Legacy was brought out it was changed to a patterned plastic that matched the body. I had never noticed it till I actually had two of them side by side.

Doug

Post# 345608 , Reply# 18   2/27/2016 at 14:13 (2,980 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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The Grand Marquis and a close up of the front end

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Post# 345609 , Reply# 19   2/27/2016 at 14:14 (2,980 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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The Legacy and close up

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Post# 345613 , Reply# 20   2/27/2016 at 14:39 (2,980 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here)        

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Yes, I've just checked my Legacy, and it too, has the crackled finish on the front end.

 

I had the same questions about all these models as well, a few months back.  I have an owners manual for the Legacy showing a picture of the pn as shown in reply 12.  When I got my Legacy a few month back, was able to distinguish it from the Grand Marquis.  But it was a mystery for many years.  

 

What happened to the hose port on your Legacy? In the close-up it looks like its smashed in, but in the bigger picture, it looks fine.
Post# 346773 , Reply# 21   3/8/2016 at 18:22 (2,970 days old) by Paul (USA)        

You've got a good eye, Doug. Thanks for pointing that out. Charles Lester has most, if not all, the details down on the pre-Sara Lee model versions, so you've helped to do the same for the post-ones.

I'm glad that since the Renaissance era Aerus identifies changes of a particular model with a new model ID.


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