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My Dilemma - new canister? Looking for advice |
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Post# 272045 , Reply# 1   3/16/2014 at 00:12 (3,694 days old) by jade_angel (Fort Collins, CO)   |   | |
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I'd wait to see about the price of the Wonder/Prima. After that, if it's too expensive, go with the used Filter Queen, I'd say. Another option might be the Panasonic MC-CG902 or -CG918, which is like the Kenmore but IMHO better built. |
Post# 272048 , Reply# 2   3/16/2014 at 00:32 (3,694 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut)   |   | |
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I feel your pain.
I can't stand my Miele either. It's only a few years old and the parking lever on the power head is broken, the adjustible wand is stuck and now it's been turning itself off. I'm taking it as a loss and lession learned (it will become the vacuum I use for the car). Monday I'm goint to a Riccar dealer and placing my order for the Immaculate Premier Canister. The Riccar has bigger tools, longer cord, longer hose, better power head, optional electric mini power head...etc. I don't know what vacuums you've been looking into already but do lots of homework (I've been doing years worth). I really hope Riccar will be the right vacuum for me. I wish you the best of luck though...it's tough I know. |
Post# 272051 , Reply# 3   3/16/2014 at 00:50 (3,694 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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To clean a high pile Frieze carpet a manual height adjuster power nozzle needs to be used. It needs to be one that adjusts reasonably as well and not to a maximum of 1/4". That said I can tell you that a Sebo ET-1 power nozzle despite being manual height adjustment, it will not work. I've tried it on some and the brush roll sensor just shuts off the power head every other second.
The Riccar/ Simplicity power nozzle works very well for tall carpets and the CenTec power nozzles on Kenmore and Panasonic canisters work well for this. For best maneuvering I'd look to the Riccar Wonder series or Panasonic canister with large rear wheels. Many modern canisters with the low profile 4 swivel canister wheels will most likely not move well on the thick rug as you seem to have experienced. Likewise as a former Filter Queen salesman up until last month, I can tell you that I strongly believe that the Filter Queen will have a very difficult time maneuvering through it as well. An older style power nozzle on the Filter Queens with height adjuster will work but the top heavy design will not maneuver suction unit well over your thick carpet and you'll find unit toppled over on it's side quite a bit!!! Therefore I would completely agree with Jade_Angel that the Panasonic MC-CG902 would work well or for greater durability Tacony's new Prima/ Wonder series would work well!! Central vacs are interesting if you don't mind carrying an awkward 35' hose up and down steps. In addition to awkward hose carrying and putting away there are numerous other disadvantages. Centrals can get clogs in piping. You're looking at significant prices for the system itself and installation into an existing home!!! Central vacs aren't for quick cleanings!!!! Dragging out hose and going back to closet for attachments since they generally don't store on wand make them inconvenient to use. Depending on well vendors did their job, you need to hope that they measured your property thoroughly and that hose reaches all areas that you want to to. Otherwise once you're out of hose, that's the limit of your cleaning!! A clients house I used to work for, we couldn't reach back of her master bedroom closet or bathroom to clean those surfaces with central vac. Also we couldn't reach hose into garage to do clean vehicles inside or other chores. With a canister vacuum, you can easily relocate the electrical cord anywhere and go anywhere!!! |
Post# 272069 , Reply# 4   3/16/2014 at 08:43 (3,694 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 272161 , Reply# 8   3/16/2014 at 18:17 (3,694 days old) by mieles7 (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 272193 , Reply# 12   3/16/2014 at 22:02 (3,693 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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This is an older Kenmore Progressive canister unit with essentially same design build as the current market Panasonic MCCG902. It's a cleaning clients home of mine. We've had no issues with dust not getting into bag. Only issue we have is we haven't started using HEPA bags yet. This clients home is attached to a 32 stall horse stable. House is an extremely dusty environment with 85% of 2 floor home being ceramic tile with deep grout on 1st floor and laminate upstairs. The Kenmore does a great job cleaning floors when using a 10" generic horsehair brush. Maintains air flow well throughout cleaning despite tons of very fine stable dust in home!!! I wash premotor filter about once every 3 months on these style canisters.
***Power head is a replacement. |
Post# 272227 , Reply# 13   3/17/2014 at 09:46 (3,693 days old) by panofan (West Coast)   |   | |
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Interesting - maybe that's it - I've only used the hepa bags - maybe they are heavier or the cardboard isn't as strong (bad batch?) and it pulled away from the red collar it clips to. |
Post# 272268 , Reply# 14   3/17/2014 at 17:50 (3,693 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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I've got a current (third generation) Progressive canister, and I use the yellow micro C bags in it. I still get a light coating of dust in the bag compartment and on pre filter. I vacuum the filter and dust out the compartment each time I change the bag. It doesn't seem to be a big issue, the HEPA exhaust filter still seems clean.
The model I have is supposed to use the Q HEPA cloth bags, but I found them to be expensive and the C paper bags fit fine. It just that it isn't True HEPA certified without the cloth bags. The bag mounts seem to be the same on all Progressives and Whispertone and going back to the 1984 models, but I think the gasket changed from rubber to foam at some point. That may be the weak link. |