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Help!! Electrolux CB motor???
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Post# 233706   5/23/2013 at 11:58 (3,990 days old) by knoxfrzb ()        

hey all...does anyone know of a motor that will fit in the Electrox CB?..the old shiny one...ive had 2 motors sent from essco and neither one fits

its serial number is 92222 if that helps

much appreciated


Post# 233710 , Reply# 1   5/23/2013 at 12:36 (3,990 days old) by kenkart ()        
Any..

Electrolux canister motor will fit, say a model g, 1205, goldenj, etc. its the same motor, if its a later model, then a SuperJ or Olympia will fit .

Post# 233719 , Reply# 2   5/23/2013 at 13:52 (3,990 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The old Model L motor will interchange with no modification needed. The motors you've been trying to obtain from ESSCO are non-genuine motors made to fit newer models. The CB came out in 1968, and need a motor made during that time period to work properly.

Post# 233723 , Reply# 3   5/23/2013 at 14:20 (3,990 days old) by Electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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Isn't it something that Electrolux wouldn't have wanted to put a more powerful motor in their commercial machines. I mean, really! The CB has a longer hose, the floor tools are wider (less concentration of suction power) and the airflow has to go through a thick cloth bag. I had a CB once upon a time, silver with 1205-blue top, and was very disappointed by the wimpy suction so I gave it away.

I'm wondering if the company ever "learned their lesson" and installed more powerful machines in their later commercial models.



Post# 233739 , Reply# 4   5/23/2013 at 15:00 (3,990 days old) by Vinvac (Dubuque IA)        

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I loved the Electrolux CB machine. I used one at the bank for almost 20 years. I think it had the 1205 motor. We used it for many years with a PN-1 and then upgraded the power nozzle.

Also one of the churches I played for used one for many years. It finally started showing it's age and they purchased a new model. Plastic molded tank and the L shaped power-head. (may have been from the Marquis time frame) Perfect for use in a church setting. My only complaint was it did not have the direct connect nozzle/hand grip so you couldn't use the power-mate Jr. The last time I visited as a guest organist for a funeral they were still using the newer machine (However, they trashed the MDS-26 Allen Organ...long story but they are now totally happy clappy...with a keyboard... even got rid of a perfectly good piano..but I digress)

I was always amazed at how well it cleaned and how often it needed to be emptied. We used the paper filter liners in both machines. Typically we didn't notice much difference in air flow as the tank filled. Both machines were moderately quiet and provided years of service. The bank replaced their unit with a Pansonic commerical and then a central vac unit. The new custodian brought in her own vacuum once the central unit was installed. She hated the central vac with an air driven powerhead.



Post# 233846 , Reply# 5   5/24/2013 at 07:31 (3,989 days old) by kenkart ()        
I wonder why...

They dropped the CA, it was leagues ahead of every other commercial vacuum ever made!

Post# 233849 , Reply# 6   5/24/2013 at 08:27 (3,989 days old) by knoxfrzb ()        
thanks a ton y'all

knew you could help me out in a flash..you guys rock in a hugley dorky vacuum cleaner loving kind of way that is stunningly awesome

Post# 233862 , Reply# 7   5/24/2013 at 13:28 (3,989 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
I agree Hans:

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The CA (Commercial Automatic) was many years ahead of its time. How rare to find a wet/dry vacuum with a flow-thru motor? A power nozzle? Automatic full bag shut off? There haven't been any commercial canisters as advanced since then, I believe.

Post# 272713 , Reply# 8   3/20/2014 at 16:46 (3,689 days old) by fallonsewnvac (Nevada)        
Hey guys...

this is my first post but I have been stealing your secrets for a couple years now by lurking without joining I decided to join to ask a question and thank everyone as well. :D Does anyone have a part number for the motor in question? I have a customer with a Model CB vac serial 26133, turquoise top and would love to fix his machine up rather than sell him a new one. HESCO has a few 5.1" Ametek motors, but I'm not sure any would fit... I do have a few Super J's in the back, but this motor has that funky adapter plate. Will that fit? Thanks again. :)

Post# 272763 , Reply# 9   3/20/2014 at 20:50 (3,689 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
While I cannot speak for part numbers,

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I would like to state to Dysonman1-Is the CA not a Dry-only machine? Were they NOT designed to be used on wet surfaces? I'm quite sure you've said wrong, But being that you own the vacuum cleaner museum of St.James, Missouri, how could you not know?


Post# 272832 , Reply# 10   3/21/2014 at 08:07 (3,688 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hey Alex

Tom is right. The CA did have a wet pick up configuration as did the early model CB's. This is from the manual from the early CB but the CA had a similar set up where you added a wet pick up attachment into the tank.

Doug


Post# 272836 , Reply# 11   3/21/2014 at 09:30 (3,688 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
thanks,

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That makes more sense as to have the wet/dry configuration in the form of an attachment, whereas most modern day wet/dry cleaners are permanently set up in that fashion.


Post# 272896 , Reply# 12   3/21/2014 at 17:22 (3,688 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
The reason

for the quitting of putting wet pickup in the commercials was the high sudsing soaps and detergent being used. You would need a defoamer that a lot of people were not aquainted with and the cost of warranty.
The reason for the demise of the CA was the cost of the cleaner . ,If memory is close the machines sold well over $700 when you put everything on it. Quite a hefty price in 1962. My father sold 15 and had one himself. He sold it to a lady that wanted it and when he went to get another they quit selling them coming out with the CB. I loved the CA and still do.



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