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Thread Number: 19981
New AEG/Electrolux UltraCaptic cylinder/canister. |
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| Post# 223837 3/16/2013 at 14:13 (4,058 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
An unusual looking cylinder/canister vacuum cleaner from AEG with a Samsung like feature to compact dust before it is thrown out. There's also an UltraCaptic UCOrigin and UCAnimal, no doubt cashing in on the Dyson differentiated monikers.
See link for video play and info page from AEG UK. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK 
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| Post# 223851 , Reply# 1 3/16/2013 at 14:58 (4,058 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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God that's ugly | ||
| Post# 223871 , Reply# 2 3/16/2013 at 16:07 (4,058 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I know what you mean. The thought did cross my mind but it surprises me that in the video shown they claim that it has excellent manoeuvrability, yet they fail to follow the Germans lead in providing castor wheels as opposed to those daft large wheels on the back. Though clearly computer generated in the video, there's a point where the machine goes around in a circle to pick up the dirt and then just for a quick millisecond, looks like it slips out of its circle due to the rear wheels sliding. Maybe its my eye sight!.
I dont know - are smaller castors better than huge rear wheels? I tend to find that large rear wheels on compact canisters either leave marks on the floor, slide about too much and contribute to the tendency to flip the machine over once in a while. Much prefer smaller castor wheels, personally. | ||
| Post# 223873 , Reply# 3 3/16/2013 at 16:54 (4,058 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
Saw this on the AEG website last week as a fan of the AEG Electrolux range I'm disappointed how ugly this thing is and there is no powerhead ƒ¼ , the Ultraone, Ultra Performer, UltraSilencer etc are all very nice looking machines and I was awaiting eagerly for them to launch a multicyclonic cylinder, as I love my UltraPerformer but its only single cyclone so the filter does dirty fairly quickly although it¡¦s not as bad as you might think. Don't think I will be rushing out to buy the UltraCaptic, my next purchase will defiantly be the Ultraone with powerhead such an attractive and excellent performing machine just waiting for a good deal to pop up! I agree with you Sebo_fan I don¡¦t think it will be very manoeuvrable my daily machine has become my Dyson DC38, I was sceptical at the ball technology on a cylinder but it really is a revelation the machine just follows you everywhere it totally does away with the main negative of a cylinder - that you are constantly pulling at the hose to make it follow you.
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| Post# 223888 , Reply# 4 3/16/2013 at 17:31 (4,058 days old) by kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 223892 , Reply# 5 3/16/2013 at 17:41 (4,058 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 223894 , Reply# 6 3/16/2013 at 18:19 (4,058 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 223897 , Reply# 7 3/16/2013 at 18:23 (4,058 days old) by kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 223917 , Reply# 8 3/16/2013 at 20:23 (4,058 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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No worries. Having checked You Tube for more UltraCaptic vidz, there's a few South American/Spanish ones that aren't vastly different, but a rather unusual marketing aspect that Electrolux claim will "free your mind." Im being deadly serious - apparently there's an Electrolux app for your phone that allows you to clean whilst you mediate! What will those Swedes think of next? CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 230704 , Reply# 9 4/30/2013 at 16:07 (4,013 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 231224 , Reply# 11 5/4/2013 at 17:28 (4,009 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Sometimes I do wonder why it was so intrinsically wrong to make a vacuum cleaner which looked like a vacuum cleaner. I can think of few other appliances which have been open to such drastic styling as time has progressed. | ||
| Post# 231238 , Reply# 12 5/4/2013 at 20:41 (4,009 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I don't think it is being restricted to just vacuums - modern brands are trying to outdo their rival brands with hyped up designs on traditional lifestyle appliances, good or bad to the eye - it is supposed to evoke the individual's choice over style, form and function AND then add an expensive price to match.
Some brands can get away with high priced products - Miele for example don't over style their washing machines - they have excellent reliability and plenty of good features as well as being fitted with some commercial grade components and motors. Indesit/Hotpoint on the other hand lifted the market expectations when they launched their Aqualtis ranges. | ||
| Post# 231258 , Reply# 13 5/5/2013 at 02:39 (4,008 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 231283 , Reply# 14 5/5/2013 at 09:38 (4,008 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Sorry but you can't compare bagless to bagged.
Nor can you expect a good comparison between a rectangular sledge style to a round tub vac.
Also you can't compact down a Henry vacuum due to its traditional tub. I know that from experience unless you fit the smaller hose, and even then copious amounts of hose and the tubes plus the floor head make for a bulky storage solution. You can't have everything - I mean I'd choose a Henry over any bagless cylinder vacuum if I was after a cost effective bargain but you'd still have to make compromises - and Henry's 2013 range with the park storage idea at the back of the machine reduces some bulk to what has gone on before. Also the general shape of the AEG means it can be used on stairs. Henry definitely can't due to his rotund shape, but again these are the compromises plus other variables buyers are likely to make at the time of purchase. | ||
| Post# 231291 , Reply# 15 5/5/2013 at 11:05 (4,008 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 231292 , Reply# 16 5/5/2013 at 11:07 (4,008 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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But Henry's are difficult to lug upstairs, much better to have a handheld for stairs, I use my dirt devil handy | ||
| Post# 231294 , Reply# 17 5/5/2013 at 11:22 (4,008 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 231354 , Reply# 18 5/5/2013 at 18:06 (4,008 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Really? You have a flight of 12 or 13 stairs that can allow Henry to sit on them? Id love to see a photo of that. The best way I've used Henry on stairs is to leave him at the ground and just use the hose and even an extension hose clipped onto the existing one for even more reach, but like the SEBO upright, when you have an extra extension hose there's nowhere to put it after use.
Whilst I'm all for Henry in general, he's a tub, and a large one that. He's not as compact as Miele, Sebo, Hoover et al who prefer the narrower design and his components are designed for commercial use rather than domestic, hence the lack of on board storage "proper" and hose/tube storage after use. | ||
| Post# 231355 , Reply# 19 5/5/2013 at 18:11 (4,008 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 231357 , Reply# 20 5/5/2013 at 18:15 (4,008 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well it has only just come out = John Lewis are the premium "darlings" of the department store world and general franchises. I'm sure online seller companies will start stocking the AEG Captic in - but also bear in mind that JL also test a lot of the appliances they get, sometimes having one of their product team write a review on the site about it.
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| Post# 231407 , Reply# 22 5/5/2013 at 23:33 (4,008 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Good point VR and that reminds me...
Another thing that some cylinder vacs have (Miele's clippable tool storer is a design in point) is that the tools are located by the handle, thus you have then with you at all times instead of having to walk back down to the vacuum if it can't be sat on a stair or if the tools store on the body. OR you get the tools at the time of need and go for it.
Another issue is a design point on cylinder vacuums made to stand upright. I've only had a few vacuums that fail to stand upright on a stair step successfully - the worst being the Bosch BSGL5000 series as it has poor upright bits on the back that can fall off and eventually allow the cylinder to fall forward. SEBO's K series have 2 sensible small feet on the front to prevent the machine from falling off the stair and if it does fall on its front, the power switch is raised from the body due to the design anyway and switches off safely. SEBO added the raised control dial on the D series to perform the same way should it fall on its front. With Henry, most owners don't bother with the tools and just use the metal bent part for cleaning stairs. I've done it myself! When I emailed SEBO a few years ago to ask why they added the 2.1 metre hose to some of their vacuums, it was purely because it offered owners extra stretch and the ability to just hold onto the hose, handle and lightweight tubes rather than constantly pulling the motor/machine behind them. Another reason that SEBO have added higher power motors with the longer hoses is simply to counteract the lack of suction by the longer airflow stretch in the hose AND if owners choose to use the cost optional 3 metre stretch hose attached to the standard 2.1 metre hose for even more stretch, there's still power available. I've done that myself but again whilst the standard hose on the machine is great to have, the excess one can't be stored. | ||
| Post# 231414 , Reply# 23 5/6/2013 at 02:32 (4,007 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 231426 , Reply# 24 5/6/2013 at 04:31 (4,007 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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UltraCaptic
These look better in some of the videos I've seen on Youtube very futurisic looking, one oddity about it is that the second stage smaller cyclones deposit the fine dust into a separate dust casset underneath the vacuum which must be emptied separately! I can see people forgeting about that or not reading the instructions and the thing getting clogged with dust!
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| Post# 231448 , Reply# 25 5/6/2013 at 10:05 (4,007 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Joe - when I say using a vacuum cleaner ON stairs like the narrower sledges etc, it means it can be put on a stair STEP physically. You're referring to what I thought all along with Henry - either leaving him at the top or bottom of a landing. That isn't the same. Cue the horror incident I had with my old Vax tub when I left it at the top of the stairs and it trundled down behind me!
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| Post# 231489 , Reply# 26 5/6/2013 at 14:44 (4,007 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 231490 , Reply# 27 5/6/2013 at 14:52 (4,007 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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Yeah, he posted the story in the 'what was your worst vacuum experience' thread! It was funny to read but I shouldn't laugh as I imagine it wasn't funny when it happened! | ||
| Post# 231500 , Reply# 28 5/6/2013 at 16:05 (4,007 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 231516 , Reply# 29 5/6/2013 at 18:53 (4,007 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 231523 , Reply# 31 5/6/2013 at 19:23 (4,007 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Yes but then anyone with a degree in logic would carry a normal cylinder vacuum with the ability to lock the hose and floor head either to the rear or side, whatever the machine allows. You can't do that with a Henry or a Vax canister. Nor can you trust that the vacuum is going to roll back on you, unless of course you have a nap in the carpet to stop it from happening like Joe's carpet : )
Some cylinders/canisters are narrow enough to sit on stairs as you clean upwards or downwards. 
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| Post# 231528 , Reply# 33 5/6/2013 at 19:32 (4,007 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 231534 , Reply# 34 5/6/2013 at 20:00 (4,007 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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That would depend on the cleaner and where the carry handle was located. | ||
| Post# 231567 , Reply# 35 5/7/2013 at 02:12 (4,006 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 231585 , Reply# 36 5/7/2013 at 02:22 (4,006 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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To be honest, I've given up on using a cylinder on stairs. Unless I'm at someone's house who only have a cylinder! I just prefer to either clean the stairs like this: 
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| Post# 231593 , Reply# 37 5/7/2013 at 02:26 (4,006 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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Or if I can't be bothered to set up the dirt devil, then I just use this: 
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| Post# 231774 , Reply# 38 5/8/2013 at 10:10 (4,005 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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