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Post# 218400   2/10/2013 at 01:09 (4,092 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

I am new here, and thrilled that this forum exists! I hope I can get some help here.

We just moved from a home that had all hardwood floors into a 6,000 square foot home with almost all carpet. Our Miele canister is not going to work in our new house. I have a Riccar Vibrance on loan for the weekend, and while I love the way it work as far as cleaning/suction, it seems very heavy to me. I considered Dyson, as that is what everyone in my real life uses and recommends, but it just feels so plasticy and not well constructed, and I can't bring myself to buy it. I have had the SEBO Felix in am Amazon cart for a while, but I am not sure about buying it without trying it.

What else am I missing? I need something very powerful- we have two toddlers, two cats, and a dog. I would like something lightweight, but I don't want to sacrifice power for weight. I also understand that with some of the lightweight machines you have to be more careful not to suck up a coin/marble/etc. because you can ruin these machine more easily due to how they work. I also want something comfortable to use. I have some back problems- nothing really serious, but they can be an issue at times. I don't care about tools so much because we have the Miele canister for that if needed. We were actually considering a Shark Navigator Professional- not due to the price, but due to weight and positive reviews. Money isn't really an issue- I guess I would like to stay in the $500-$700 range.

Any help I can get will be so incredibly appreciated! I have a very hard time making decisions and tend to obsess over these kinds of things.




Post# 218405 , Reply# 1   2/10/2013 at 02:52 (4,092 days old) by mr_mom (pittsburgh (PA))        

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i would say check out the hoover WindTunnel MAX Pet Plus Multi-Cyclonic i have dogs that sheds and it picks up great but the only thing sometimes i dont like about is when the brush roll is on it is a little loud and if you have little ones who are napping it might wake them up. but you might wanna also check out the Hoover WindTunnel Pet Rewind Plus you have a longer reach of the hose and the brush roll on it is quiet

Post# 218409 , Reply# 2   2/10/2013 at 04:13 (4,092 days old) by thermokid (Casper, Wyoming)        
$500 to $700 range

If it was me I would check out a reconditioned Kirby with self-propel. It will last you a long time has great suction for carpets and it is easy to push, You only need two fingers to push it. That is the brand I would buy, but then again I love Kirby's and have had one all my life. I vacuum daily with a 53 year old Kirby. It is not self-propelled but it lighter then the newer Kirby's (but they are self-propelled) That old Kirby has been in our family since it was new...Good luck on your search.. Dan

Post# 218416 , Reply# 3   2/10/2013 at 05:43 (4,092 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Since you have such a large home with a lot of carpet I would suggest going for a high quality durable machine like Kirby or Aerus. You said you already have a Miele canister so with a Kirby you wouldn't have to fumble with the hose much. It's TechDrive would make it very easy to push. A Miele upright would probably prove to be a good choice. I would suggest avoiding MOST mass market machines like Hoover and Bissell. Thier filtration all leave a lot to be desired on many of thier machines.

Post# 218422 , Reply# 4   2/10/2013 at 06:28 (4,092 days old) by Parwaz786 ( )        

A Henry with the airo brush

Post# 218429 , Reply# 5   2/10/2013 at 07:54 (4,092 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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The best lightweight upright on the market these days is the Hoover Platinum Lightweight Bagged upright. It deep cleans carpets with excellence, is very easy and light to use, has a really large bag that is easy to change, and is less expensive and quieter than similar lightweight upright by Oreck and Riccar and Simplicity. It indeed is a classic Fan-First configuration - which means the dirt goes thru the fan before being blown into the bag. But the brilliant headlight should help you avoid sucking up coins and anything that could potentially damage the motor. This vac only costs around $300.

If you prefer a bag-first configuration, I highly recommend the white Miele Cat and Dog S7 upright. It is an excellent carpet cleaner and offers you the option of shutting off the brush roll to vacuum bare floors without damaging them. It comes with a nice long 39 foot cord, ergonomic handle, on-board stretch hose and tools, and is very quiet. Though it's heavier than the Hoover, it features a swivel head that makes it very easy to manoeuver. It also has excellent filtration to keep emissions very low.

Here's a nice little video about the Cat and Dog:



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Post# 218431 , Reply# 6   2/10/2013 at 08:12 (4,092 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
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go for the Simplicity Freedom 8lb upright or Riccar Supralite 8lb vacuum both deep clean very well and wont be heavy to push . Get their TOL models as they have steel brush rolls with replaceable brush strips and life time belts .

 

Dan


Post# 218436 , Reply# 7   2/10/2013 at 08:32 (4,092 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
I would 2nd that Riccar/Simplicity

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In my lightweight upright test my Simplicity Freedom F3600 did the best beating out two Orecks (xl-21 and ultra) and a Hoover platinum Lightweight.

If you want something with onboard tools the Lindhaus Activa is supposed to run at about 14 lbs i've found it's performance to be pretty good overall
You could also go with a Sebo, the G1 and G2, which are comparable to the Lindhaus Activa in price, are more durable though not as effective in cleaning (in my opinion)

I would stop into your local vacuum shop/shops or located a dealer for these brands from their website and try them out for yourself at their shop some Sebo dealers even have a test drive program for a month i think.


Post# 218438 , Reply# 8   2/10/2013 at 08:43 (4,092 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
Since you have so much carpeting ...

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... it's a no-brainer. Kirby.

Hang on to the Miele for when you need "attachments".


Post# 218439 , Reply# 9   2/10/2013 at 08:45 (4,092 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )        

@mistyp11, Congrats on the move to your new home. 6000 sq is a lot of home to clean. :)

What Miele canister/configuration do you have? You said your last house was mostly hardwood floors so I am guessing you have a miele canister that does not have the SEB236 power head on it.

Is all the carpet in the 6000 sq foot home the same type/height? Single story or multi story home?



Post# 218476 , Reply# 10   2/10/2013 at 14:03 (4,092 days old) by lunchboxsean ()        


This really is a no brainer. Get yourself a reconditioned Kirby. Vac shops around here usually sell very nice Sentrias with all accessories and shampooer kit for around 400-500. A Kirby with TechDrive (self propel) is the best option. Good suction, great reliability, tough as nails, last your entire lifetime, and the best self propel system I know of, there's really no other choice.

As a side note, Parwaz, I don't know of anywhere in America where Numatic vacuums are sold, at least I've never seen it. Our closest equivalent would likely be a Filter Queen.


Post# 218477 , Reply# 11   2/10/2013 at 14:25 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Hi Misty,
Here are some vacuum cleaner brands that I recommend:
www.kirby.com/...
rainbowsystem.com/...
www.filterqueen.com/...
www.aerusvacuums.com/...
www.tristarclean.com/...
www.thermaxaf.com/...
www.riccar.com/index.asp...
www.simplicityvac.com/index.asp...
Please note that Kirby/Rainbow/Filter Queen/Aerus Electrolux/TriStar/Thermax are about $1500-$2000. Riccar/Simplicity are about $300-$1500. I hope this helps.


Post# 218478 , Reply# 12   2/10/2013 at 14:27 (4,092 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Me being a

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Kirby lover that would be my first vacuum to recommended the Sentria II which I now own 4 of them but because of Misty`s back problems which everyone seems to over look . How does one with back problems carry a Kirby up and down the stairs ?
Another note with 6000 sqft . of mostly carpet a canister is out as Misty has a Miele canister which is only to be used for attachment and some bare floor cleaning .

If you pay in cash you can get the upper end vacuums for way less , just negotiate . I can afford any vacuum but never have I ever paid asking price always usually well under a thousand dollars even if list price is $2000.00 +

Dan


Post# 218481 , Reply# 13   2/10/2013 at 14:35 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Here are some more vacuum cleaner brands that I recommend:
www.sanitairevac.com/...
www.eureka.com/...
hoover.com/...
www.royalvacuums.com/...


Post# 218485 , Reply# 14   2/10/2013 at 15:09 (4,092 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Kirby's are heavy!

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I think many members are overlooking the fact that Misty has mentioned a lightweight vacuum. Now while Kirbys are self propelled making the vacuum function relatively easy, the overall heft of travel room to room or upstairs would be quite heavy and cumbersome. Also in case you have any lightweight throw rugs, I would not recommend a Kirby for those.

For the most lightweight vacuum that still offers terrific performance you want the Riccar Supralight or Simplicity Freedom. I like the Hoover Platinum but would still go with Tacony made Riccar or Simplicity over the Hoover especially since it fits in your price range. The Hoover or Taconys will outclean Orecks.

On the other hand, I am also wondering what Miele you have? Many Miele canisters allow you to add a power nozzle and electric hose to them for deep cleaning on carpets. Of course age and exact price for adding all of that to the machine is a major consideration so perhaps getting another Miele canister that does have a SEB236 or SEB228 power nozzle would be perfect for you. Even with lots of wall to wall carpet a decent canister vacuum with power nozzle will do a terrific job of deep cleaning carpets. The flexibility of easy manueverability, low profile to reach under beds, cocktail tables and many other pieces of furniture or under low hanging clothes in a closet allows for a complete, thorough cleaning of your home. Canisters are significantly easier to use on stairs as many other chores. You would have 1 vacuum with most if not all attachments stored right there on board. My choice overall is a canister with power nozzle. I would highly recommend Miele, Riccar, Simplicity, Perfect, Royal Lexon SR30020 or refurbished Aerus/ Electrolux canister vacuum.

For an upright, I would stay in the bagged range. Bagless tends to clog more, with more frequent filter maintenance and you have to empty the dirt cup with each use or in many cases after a few rooms. The difference between the bagless and bagged vacuums deals with power and capacity. A bagged vacuum like an Aerus canister will stuff and compact the dirt into the bag so that it is about as dense as a brick upon disposal if you let it get to that point. Bagless vacuums don't have that ability. Once the dirt reaches a certain level it just clogs cyclones, airways and/ or filters. It will not compact well in the cup thereby requiring constant emptying which is messy with any vacuum and must be dumped inside a trash bag outside of the house and you'll still have some "dust storm" trying to bang out or in some cases reach in with rag or fingers to grab dirt that has latched itself onto something. Dirt cup emptying on ANY bagless machine is quite messy.

For an upright with more versatility and not fan first like the ADVERTISED few lightweights on the market I would look to Riccar Vibrance, Radiance or Brilliance and similar Simplicity. Miele S7 Tango or similar Miele upright, Royal Everlast, Panasonic Performance Plus Platinum, Hoover Windtunnel T bagged or Hoover Windtunnel Max bagged. Although fan first designs, commercial uprights such as numerous Sanitaires and Hoover Professional or Guardsman series will do a terrific job on cleaning. An example of one is in link below.

Some people like Sebos and some have found machines that clean better which is the boat I'm in. Sebos are good quality design that are quiet and motors are designed to run at slower speed and start up slower so they last longer. One of their canisters the D4 has a 40' cord which is probably the longest power cord on any canister vacuum on the market. Despite these good points, none of the Sebos have a headlight. I have used a few different models upright and canister and have found that none of them clean as good or have the power of the Riccar, Simplicity, Electrolux or even numerous Hoovers, Panasonics, Eurekas, Kenmores, etc. that I've used. At the price range for which this brand comes in, I think you can EASILY find something that cleans SIGNIFICANTLY better and also is of high quality and offers many conveniences with dollars to spare. Riccar, Simplicity, Miele, Kirby, Aerus, old school Electrolux, many Royals, Kirby, Rainbow, Thermax, Sanitaire, numerous Panasonics, are all of great quality, durable machines.

Just for your info, I have done professional household cleaning for 18 years. I have used MANY vacuums both in commercial settings of restaurant, office and hotel settings along with dozens of households that include everything from multi floors with primarily laminate/ hardwood to wall to wall carpet. I am EXTREMELY fussy in the supplies I use as I look to cleaning effectiveness, ease of use, weight and price as my key factors when buying a vacuum for myself or assisting one of my clients with a decision for their own machine.


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Post# 218489 , Reply# 15   2/10/2013 at 15:20 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Sanitaire/Eureka:
www.sanitairevac.com/commercial/p...
www.sanitairevac.com/commercial/p...
www.sanitairevac.com/professional...
www.eureka.com/en-US/Vacuums/Upri...
www.grainger.com/Grainger/SANITAI...
www.eureka.com/en-US/Vacuums/Upri...
www.eureka.com/en-US/Vacuums/Upri...
Hoover/Royal:
hoover.com/products/details/c1631...
hoover.com/products/details/c1431...
hoover.com/products/details/ch300...
hoover.com/products/details/c1414...
hoover.com/products/details/c1404...
hoover.com/products/details/u6485...
hoover.com/products/details/u5491...
hoover.com/products/details/u5140...
www.royalvacuums.com/Commercial/A...
www.royalvacuums.com/Household/Up...


Post# 218492 , Reply# 16   2/10/2013 at 15:27 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

To lift and carry a Kirby, Follow the instructions in the owner's manual/owner's video.


Post# 218500 , Reply# 17   2/10/2013 at 15:58 (4,092 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

If I had almost 6000 square feet of carpet and did not use my vac for much above the floor cleaning, I would look at a Kirby too. My vac is used 50% of the time for above the floor cleaning so that is why I need a canister

Post# 218503 , Reply# 18   2/10/2013 at 16:07 (4,092 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

TriStar CS canister vacuum

Eureka The Boss 1934B upright vacuum

Both are great cleaners & reliable that lasts for generations.

The TriStar CS (MG style, a. k. a. A101) also has a MiniStar for vacing pet hair from upholstery; & it doesn't "bog down" & clog as easily & more efficient than a turbo brush, thanks to the MiniStar's electric powered motor. And you'll have full airflow when using the MiniStar; unlike turbo brushes that diminish suction because most of the airflow is spinning the turbine of a turbo brush.




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Post# 218506 , Reply# 19   2/10/2013 at 16:21 (4,092 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

Wow, thanks everyone for the advice so far!

As far as my back problems- I would say that while I would prefer a lighter weight vacuum, I will not rule out a heavier vacuum if it works better for my situation. The Miele I have is the S 514 (Solaris?). I don't know if I can explain exactly why, but vacuuming all of the carpet with it is exhausting. It is just not easy to push on carpet, and it seems like the vacuum isn't helping you at all as you are working, if that makes sense. So I realize that sometimes a heavier vacuum is actually easier to use while you are actually vacuuming- the weight is only a problem when carrying it. And the cord length of the Miele is a significant problem too- I think it is 21 feet. In a house this large, it is too short to even clean one room, very inconvenient.

I cleaned the whole house last night with the Riccar Vibrance I have on loan. It is heavier than I would prefer I guess, but it isn't so heavy I wouldn't buy it. I was tired afterwards, but I think that I might need to accept that no matter the vacuum I am going to get worn out from cleaning here (or in good shape, I guess?). It seems to clean my carpets really well. We do worry about the lighter weight vacs as far as sucking up a coin or a marble. I am sorry to say that we are the people who do that sort of thing, especially with our 4 and 3 year olds dropping their little parts and pieces all over.

I had considered the Miele Cat and Dog on paper, but I wonder if it is too heavy. I think it is even heavier than the Riccar I have on loan right now. Is there any reason why this Miele would be better than the RIccar? I am guessing quieter?

I had considered the Sebo Felix, but I am leaning against that because it seems like I can do better as far as cleaning power.

After years of having hardwood floors, I am finding that I missed vacuuming, and I kind of enjoy it! So I am wanting to get a machine that I will enjoy using.

As far as Kirby, I have some reasons that I don't think I could purchase one, and the biggest one is the method they use to sell the machines. I am a former social worker and had many mentally ill clients and some recently released from corrections who sold Kirby vacuums, and worked on a commission model where they would work for months and get paid nothing if they didn't sell anything. Just have a very bad taste in my mouth as far as Kirby, probably couldn't buy one.

I will look at the Hoovers a few people mentioned. We hadn't considered Hoover at all, or really any of the vacuums that you can get at major retailers except for the Dyson and Sharks.

I just have to say again I really appreciate all of your help and responses! Any other thoughts that you have I would be so happy to hear.


Post# 218514 , Reply# 20   2/10/2013 at 16:50 (4,092 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

Oh also-

The carpet is all the same kind of carpet. It is a short plush carpet. And the house is one story with a daylight basement, all of the bedrooms and more of the carpet is downstairs.

And as far as bagged vs. bagless, I don't really care about that at all. EIther is fine with me, and I don't care about the cost of bags really.

I don't feel like I want to spend more than $700.


Post# 218517 , Reply# 21   2/10/2013 at 16:55 (4,092 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Or U can buy a nice reconditioned TriStar CXL (older model) & a Wessel Werk HEB160 for vacing upholstery.

The Wessel Werk HEB160, like the MiniStar, is also powered by an electric motor. It also adjusts to any angle & swivels for easy, more comfortable vacing.


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Post# 218518 , Reply# 22   2/10/2013 at 16:59 (4,092 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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The Miele Cat and Dog upright weighs 22 lbs and it's carry handle is placed in a very balanced position so that it is easy to carry. I don't know about the Vibrance, but in the latest Consumer Reports tests, the Cat and Dog outperformed the Riccar Brilliance in many aspects - it is indeed quieter and offers better handling. And if you do decide to once in a while use the on-board tools to clean a sofa or to dust a baseboard, the Miele has better airflow thru the hose for tool use. But it would be wrong to assume that the Brilliance and the Vibrance would get the same results in their tests. The Vibrance was not tested.

Another benefit to buying the Miele upright is that you'll be able to share any non-electric attachments between the two vacs.

If you don't mind a really noisy machine, you might try the Hoover Anniversary Self Propelled WindTunnel. It's a beast to carry up a flight of stairs, but its self-propulsion really makes it a breeze to use on lots of carpeting. It's been the top-rated bagged upright in Consumer Reports testing for almost 10 years now. And it is a Bag-First upright unlike the Kirby which is a Fan-First upright.


Post# 218520 , Reply# 23   2/10/2013 at 17:08 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Back in March 2004, My grandparents bought a Kirby Diamond Edition for $1500. The Kirby salespeople came knocking on their door and they let them in. My late grandparents both had Alzheimer's Disease and they were both in poor health. I was the one using the Kirby for cleaning their house once a week. They couldn't use it because it was way too heavy/way too complicated. They gave the Kirby to me in March 2005. I still have it and it still looks and runs great.


Post# 218521 , Reply# 24   2/10/2013 at 17:09 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Google Kirby sales practices.


Post# 218525 , Reply# 25   2/10/2013 at 17:18 (4,092 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

And one more thing while I am thinking of it- I wish the RIccar would do better at picking up around the edges. The sales person told me that almost no vac would do a good job at that, but I am wondering if that is true.



Post# 218533 , Reply# 26   2/10/2013 at 17:37 (4,092 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Oh ... one other thing Misty... If you did not already buy one for the Miele canister you own, the white Cat and Dog upright comes with a mini air-driven turbo nozzle to help clean pet hair off of stairs and furniture. You can use it on either vac... Good luck in your search!!! :-)

Post# 218546 , Reply# 27   2/10/2013 at 18:02 (4,092 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Misty

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If you think the Riccar is heavy and gives you a work out stay away from the Miele it is super heavy and very bulky . Some thing consumer reports won't tell you .
You'll get better info from this site and from people like myself than CR . I own
Over 400 high end machines and a former vacuum shop manager and vacuum shop owner .

You might also want to try the Aerus Guardian upright vacuum long lasting easy bag change and does a great job cleaning . They last forever and are your grandmothers Electrolux .

Dan


Post# 218550 , Reply# 28   2/10/2013 at 18:27 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

By the way, Rainbow/Filter Queen/Aerus Electrolux/TriStar/Thermax uses the same sales practices as Kirby! :(


Post# 218552 , Reply# 29   2/10/2013 at 18:31 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Also, You are able to shampoo carpets/rugs with the Kirby/Rainbow/Thermax! :)


Post# 218555 , Reply# 30   2/10/2013 at 18:43 (4,092 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

I am looking and can't seem to figure out where I can buy an Aerus?

And can anyone say more about Lindhaus?


Post# 218557 , Reply# 31   2/10/2013 at 18:50 (4,092 days old) by mieles7 (TX)        

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How about a Riccar Supralite and Supraquik canister? Both of those are powerful yet lightweight vacuums. You could also check out the Royal Everlast series of uprights. They are completely metal, less that 16 lb, and designed for large areas of carpet.

Post# 218558 , Reply# 32   2/10/2013 at 18:59 (4,092 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
If heavier vacuums are not ruled out then

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A kirby would be a great choice for that much carpeting, You could seek out a reconditioned unit from a vacuum shop (usually from about 200-600 around here. Yhe G series has a heavy lifting weight but with the tech drive engages it takes about two lbs of effort in order to move it. It would be best to check one out at a shop to see if it would be suitable for you.

Post# 218561 , Reply# 33   2/10/2013 at 19:18 (4,092 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Lindhaus

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Sorry for posting twice in a row i just saw the request for more info on Lindhaus

I have been pleased with the Lindhaus brand i have heard of some past issues with the Activas but i've never had any of those problems with my own.

The Activa is a single motor system that uses two geared belts with a gear reducer, Most of it's cleaning ability comes from the spiral brushroll i've been rather impressed by what it picks up . It has tools onboard with a stretch hose, a telescopic wand, a combo upholstry tool/dusting brush (i would reccomend a seperate 35mm brush) and a crevice tool. Their standard electrostatic filters work just fine if you don't have allergies but you can upgrade to either a carbon filter to reduce odors or a hepa filter. It comes in the 30 (12" path) and 38 (15 inch path) They are supposed to weigh in at around 14 lbs. Their cost at area shops are about 450

There is also the Diamante which is like the activa but it is a dual motor system where you can shut off the brushroll.

The healthcare pro is somewhat heavier but are said to hold up better than the activa, it is a dual motor system as well. It has onboard tools but you must keep the vac close to you when using tools due to the high hose mounting point. Like the Sebo Felix you can put a hard floor tool where the power nozzle connects. The filtration is the same as the activa.

As usual i will recommend trying one out in a local shop.


Post# 218564 , Reply# 34   2/10/2013 at 19:48 (4,092 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

I do think the RIccar Supralight would be perfect, if I was not afraid of sucking something up and destroying it.

I just did some research and found out there is a Lindhaus dealer about an hour away. I think I might make a trip there to try them out.

There is also a Miele dealer here I have not visited. I may try to see if they have a Cat and Dog vac in stock to see if I can deal with the weight.

I really wish I was just a normal person who could go to the store and buy a Dyson or whatever vacuum without agonizing over the decision.



Post# 218568 , Reply# 35   2/10/2013 at 20:09 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Misty,
I posted the websites for Kirby/Rainbow/Filter Queen/Aerus Electrolux/TriStar/Thermax/Riccar/Simplicity. I also posted the websites for Sanitaire/Eureka/Hoover/Royal. Scroll up to see my links.


Post# 218569 , Reply# 36   2/10/2013 at 20:12 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Misty,
Here are two more websites for you to check out:
www.greatvacs.com/...
www.goodvac.com/...


Post# 218578 , Reply# 37   2/10/2013 at 20:33 (4,092 days old) by lunchboxsean ()        

Ok, yeah, I did overlook that. I would go with the Simplicity, or an Oreck. The only problem I see here is if you have a high pile carpet. The Sebo Felix, though, is a tremendous machine, as is the Miele Quickstep, something no one has mentioned yet that I recall. A QuickStep with a good power nozzle can be every bit as effective as most uprights. Yeah, that would be the decision for me. Simplicity Freedom, Oreck XL Gold, Sebo Felix, or Miele Quickstep with a $100 PN.

Post# 218579 , Reply# 38   2/10/2013 at 20:36 (4,092 days old) by dustin (Jackson, MI)        
I will add my 2¢ here...

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Why not a Panasonic upright? They are fairly lightweight, durable, most are quiet, and powerful. They use a Clean air design (large or hard objects wont damage the fan), and are a mid priced cleaner.

Post# 218581 , Reply# 39   2/10/2013 at 21:08 (4,092 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

If I do something like the Riccar Supralight or Simplicity Freedom, am I worrying too much about sucking up a small toy or coin and destroying the vacuum?

I am looking at the Oreck XL Gold on Amazon, that looks like a good possibility. Maybe I will see if I can find a local Oreck dealer.

The Miele Quikstep looks like it has too small of a cleaning path (I am not sure if that makes sense). The wider the better as far as the bottom of the vacuum, because we have such a large amount of area to clean. It also doesn't look like it will be much easier to use than my MIele canister.

My carpet is not high pile.

Which Panasonic would I look at or consider specifically?



Post# 218587 , Reply# 40   2/10/2013 at 21:18 (4,092 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Be glad you are doing the research

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Dysons (in my opinion) are not impressive vacuums their greatest selling point (cyclonic set up) is also their greatest weakness as it makes it hard for air to flow through resulting in terrible airflow.

I see that you are worried about picking up hard objects with the Riccar/Simplicity it's going to be just as big a deal with the Oreck. The Oreck gold has the same set up as my Oreck XL-21 which i put through my lightweight vacuum test it placed 2nd only to the Simplicity


Post# 218592 , Reply# 41   2/10/2013 at 21:36 (4,092 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)        

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If you're interested in Oreck, check out Big Lots. I got my Oreck Pilot there for $129 and it was one of the best purchases I've made. It gets used daily in my house. It's great at deep cleaning, and even pulls itself on my very deep pile carpeting. Also, Oreck does a fantastic job refurbishing their vacuums. This was my second factory reconditioned one and it is like getting a brand new one from the Oreck store. Good luck in your search!

Chase


Post# 218597 , Reply# 42   2/10/2013 at 21:49 (4,091 days old) by lunchboxsean ()        


With the Miele, you can use any Miele power nozzle, including the full size and full power ones from the cannisters. Like I said, spend 299 on the quickstep and another 100 bucks on the power nozzle and you will have one light, super quiet, mean upright vacuum. Only problem, small bags... But mieles are know for absolutely packing their bags full before they need to be replaced, thats just how much suction they have. Take a serious look at one of those. Ultimately, go to a good vac shop or two and try a couple of these out.

Post# 218601 , Reply# 43   2/10/2013 at 22:04 (4,091 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
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Quick step and tiny bags plus 6000 sqft .= not a vacuum for Misty you guys must not be reading what Misty wrote . Tiny vacuum bags in the glorified electric broom is a very wrong type of vacuum to recommend .

Orecks have Kevlar fans same stuff bullet proof vests are made of . Best oreck is the Paltinum Pilot . You could order one online try it free for 30 days and return it for free if you dont like it .

Dan


Post# 218604 , Reply# 44   2/10/2013 at 22:11 (4,091 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )        

Wide cleaning path... The sebo ET-2 has a 15inch cleaning head and is available on the Felix.

If you do make it to your miele dealer be sure to ask them to sample the SEB236 power nozzle for your canister (the same nozzle is also an option for the S194 Quickstep). You will still have your current issue of the cleaning radius unless you used an appropriately rated 50ft extension cord.

The Royal 8300 all metal upright would be a good choice.. No need to worry about toys or marble either.

If you did get the Hoover etc and had funds left over I would still consider the SEB 236 nozzle for the canister. Then you can leave one unit downstairs for the bedrooms and have the upright... Maybe miele cat and dog available on the main floor.

Please let us know whatever it is you finalize on. :)


Post# 218607 , Reply# 45   2/10/2013 at 22:28 (4,091 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Hi Misty,
Here are some Oreck/Riccar/Simplicity 8 pound uprights for your consideration:
Oreck:
www.oreck.com/Oreck-Forever-Gold-...
www.oreck.com/Oreck-Graphite-Powe...
www.oreck.com/Oreck%C2%AE-Classic...
Riccar:
www.riccar.com/products/8-pound/...
www.riccar.com/products/specialty...
Simplicity:
www.simplicityvac.com/products/up...
www.simplicityvac.com/products/ot...
I hope this helps.


Post# 218608 , Reply# 46   2/10/2013 at 22:28 (4,091 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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I googled your zip code and found this for an Aerus dealer near you:

Aerus #10833
OMAHA, NE 68137
Phone: (402) 596-0846
This location is 42.4 miles away.

That's a bit of a hike. I would try your local vacuum shop and they may have some refurbished units available for Aerus, Electrolux, TriStar, or other.

Tired after using a canister means your power head is hard to push. Weight with a vacuum is an interesting topic. When you carry a vacuum room to room is when you when you feel most of the weight. As far as usage if you have a decent, powerful vacuum the wheel design, height adjustment, suction control and power of agitator are the factors too be considered in pushing. A Kirby or Hoover Windtunnel Self Propelled excluded as they have a self propelled transmission for forward and reverse. Orecks are the original lightweight vacuum, however they are cheaply designed with agitation not being very powerful and wheels are very low profile and many of their models had wheels that didn't stick out the back. So despite only weighing about 9 pounds, it was like pushing a brick across the carpet on some models due to design.

Your Miele Solaris probably has an electric current carrying hose with the Miele SEB217 power head. This power head is meant more for lightweight rugs and not designed for plush carpet. It is not very powerful and agitator is very soft bristled it's not going to offer much help in gliding across the carpet. In contrast using a Miele SEB236 or SEB228 would be a COMPLETELY different vacuuming experience as far as performance, pushing ability and maneuverability.

I have used a Simplicity Symmetry which is similar to the Riccar Vibrance. It cleaned well. It wasn't the easiest to manuever and if you look at the brushroll design, there is no edge cleaning on the one side as the belt is on the end of the agitator. There are numerous vacuum designs on the market. No cleaning takes place where the belt is on any. I always look at the bottom of the units to see if there is agitator bristles on both edges although this helps along baseboards, you will find that with any vacuum you'll have to use a crevice tool every once in a while for a complete cleaning along edges. The Riccar Brilliane, Miele S7 series, Royal Everlast are 3 uprights with extremely powerful agitation for grabbing deep down dirt along and better cleaning along edges. See attached link for an example of agitation.

I recommend taking a trip to your local vacuum dealer. See what they recommend and have on the floor. Ask about what refurbished units they have. Try out any vacs of interest canister and upright. At least if you can try a few products of a brand, it will give you an idea of ease of use, features, attachments and either find one in their showroom that you like or order a different unit through them or elsewhere. Trying before you buy is crucial. You can see the differences in weight between lifting units and pushing them.

Husker Vacuum &
SEWING
(402) 466 - 4550
1309 N. 48TH
LINCOLN, NE 68504
Distance: ~4 miles
Riccar Dealer
Lindhaus Dealer
Royal Dealer

RANDOLPH VAC
(402) 438 - 3163
2712 RANDOLPH
LINCOLN, NE 68510
Distance: ~2 miles
Directions To Here
Simplicity Dealer


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Post# 218609 , Reply# 47   2/10/2013 at 22:35 (4,091 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Misty,
If I were you, I would buy a Riccar SupraLite/Riccar SupraQuik power team over the Oreck Forever Series Gold power team. The Riccar offers excellent carpet cleaning in Consumer Reports and the Oreck offers very good carpet cleaning in Consumer Reports.
Here is the link for Consumer Reports:


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Post# 218613 , Reply# 48   2/10/2013 at 22:48 (4,091 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Here are some uprights that offer excellent agitation/airflow/suction:
Sanitaire/Eureka F&G machines, Hoover Convertibles/Decades, Royal All Metal machines, Kirby Generation 3/G4/G5/Gsix/Ultimate G/Diamond Edition/Sentria/Sentria II.


Post# 218615 , Reply# 49   2/10/2013 at 22:57 (4,091 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

The regular 4 row brushroll with stiff bristles is available for the Kirby G5/Gsix/Ultimate G/Diamond Edition/Sentria/Sentria II.
The Pet Owner's 4 row brushroll with stiff bristles is available for the Kirby Generation 3/G4/G5/Gsix/Ultimate G/Diamond Edition/Sentria/Sentria II.
The regular 4 row brushroll with soft bristles is available for the Kirby Generation 3/G4/G5/Gsix/Ultimate G/Diamond Edition/Sentria/Sentria II.


Post# 218646 , Reply# 50   2/11/2013 at 09:05 (4,091 days old) by dustin (Jackson, MI)        

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If you want to take a look at Panasonic uprights, I cant recommend a specific machine, I would however recommend a bagged unit.. You should just go to a vac shop that sells Panasonic, take a look at what's available, and try some vacuums out. Its hard to recommend a vacuum, because all of us have our preferences, and most are different. Some like Kirbys (I personally don't), some like Miele, some like, Hoover, Etc... It would be best to take our recommendations with a grain of salt, and while keeping it in mind, go to vac shops and try out the machines, The most important is that you are happy with your vacuum. That may be a $40 Bissell or a $2000 Kirby.

Post# 218654 , Reply# 51   2/11/2013 at 09:18 (4,091 days old) by GM1982 ()        

Wow overkill in options...must be up to your eyeballs in vacuum brands/styles. The problem is that there are too many options. Just go to your nearest vacuum store and speak to them, try out a few machines and buy one. KISS Keep It Simple & short

Post# 218666 , Reply# 52   2/11/2013 at 10:43 (4,091 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

I took the borrowed Riccar Vibrance back to the store and am now borrowing the Supralight. It seems like it has a lot of power, but testing it at home I don't think the suction is as good as the suction on the Vibrance was. It is really light though. I may have it down to deciding between the Vibrance and the Supralight.

Post# 218667 , Reply# 53   2/11/2013 at 11:16 (4,091 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

Durango159,

Wow! Ok, I am finally getting that I need a different power head for my current Miele. I put both of those you mentioned on my Amazon wishlist and will make buying one of those a priority.

My husband stopped at home and did a quick pass with the Riccar Supralight, and was REALLY impressed. He is going to spend some more time with it tonight before forming a final opinion, but it is so incredibly easy to push, and so light, and he made the point that that might be the most important thing in having a house this large. It might be hard to talk him out of the Supralight now, which might not be a bad thing :) It is the commercial version, with the 35 foot cord, which is also a plus. And the price is such that I should be able to buy it as well as a new power head for the Miele canister I have.

Husker Sew and Vac, my local store that has loaned me the machines, has been so kind and great to work with, I am really hoping I can buy something from them. They really only carry Riccar.

I am a little overwhelmed with choices, and thanks so much to everyone for your input! I hope this thread will eventually be helpful to someone else as obsessive as I am. :)


Post# 218668 , Reply# 54   2/11/2013 at 11:22 (4,091 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Misty, if you are going to go for a fan-first upright like the Supralight, you sre better off with the Hoover Platinum Lightweight upright. It is a much quieter vac and Hoover uprights are more reliable as far as needing repairs are concerned. Simplicity and Riccar as a brand are not as reliable as Hoover when it comes to uprights in recent years, so if you buy the Hoover Lightweight, you'll have less chance of having to bring it in for repair. Though it comes with a companion portable canister vac (which you don't need), you can also get the vac at a lower price without the little over the shoulder Portapower.

The Hoover Platinum Lightweight also costs far less than the Riccar or the Oreck. Vacuumland's Vacuumfreak just bought one of these Hoovers and he loves it!!!


Post# 218669 , Reply# 55   2/11/2013 at 11:25 (4,091 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Felix for me!

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Personally Misty, if you have all the kinds of things to put up with like coins and marbles on carpets or hard floors, pets and on top of that, all that carpet, I have to say a Sebo upright rules the roost, be it the Felix or the X. They're both made to withstand the pick up of things like that. Certainly if you can test run a Windsor Sensor (this is the commercial upright and older model before the SEBO X4) in your home, you'll get a better idea of what the Sebo can offer you.

I notice there's a video featuring the Riccar on You Tube against an Oreck. Just by looking at the design, bear in mind you'll need a machine that doesn't clog up easily and is easy to dismantle if you do require pet hair to be cleaned out of it/clogs up. I don't think I could live with the noise though.


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Post# 218670 , Reply# 56   2/11/2013 at 11:32 (4,091 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )        

@MistyP11.... I agree with what Durango159 said. I would get the SEB236 Power Nozzle for the miele canister. Skip the 228 (remove it from your cart so you arent tempted). The 236 has some advantages over the 228

-- automatic brush roll shutoff when you "stand up" the handle
-- Led headlight
-- reset button if you suck something up you shouldn't
-- lower profile
-- quieter operation

You can check out the video that talks about the different power heads. The motorized brushes start at about 4:05 into the video.




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Post# 218673 , Reply# 57   2/11/2013 at 11:49 (4,091 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

I just talked to our local Miele dealer by phone. She said a new nozzle would help somewhat, but in her opinion she thinks I should get the Riccar upright. She said she feels the Miele uprights are not as good and are way too heavy.

There is no Sebo dealer local to me, unfortunately. I would have to drive an hour. I was really interested in Sebo based on research but I am really seeing now I need to try before I buy.


Post# 218679 , Reply# 58   2/11/2013 at 12:16 (4,091 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Just another point of comparison between the Riccar Supralight and the Hoover Platinum Bagged Lightweight: the Riccar comes with a 30 foot cord whereas the Hoover comes with a 35 foot cord. But the Riccar weighs only 9 lbs while the Hoover weighs 13 lbs. You should try out the Hoover if you can....it's a pleasure to use!

Post# 218683 , Reply# 59   2/11/2013 at 12:49 (4,091 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Blimey.. having to drive an bour is a downside? You want to live in Scotland where it takes 2 hours and a half to get a ferry, then a train to the city. But then its double the time if the weather is bad and the ferry is cancelled and the 4 hour trip around to Glasgow on the old Glasgow road. Not much fun. Frankly I can't wait to sell up and move!

Seriously, I can see there's a seller in Ohama who sell Sebo or Windsor but if an hour is too much for you, so be it. The Windsor is the cheapest model but both the Sensor and X4 are incredibly easy to maintain plus they've all won awards and both have 40ft of cable and 4.8 quarts capacity bags. The Felix has a smaller capacity of 3/07 quarts per bag and 31ft of cord. Dont know about the Hoover or Riccar models but dust bags and filters for SEBO vacs last a lot longer than a lot of their rivals and you get 7 or 10 in a box for the same price you'd pay for 4 of Miele dust bags.


Post# 218684 , Reply# 60   2/11/2013 at 12:55 (4,091 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

I wouldn't rule out driving to Omaha, I very well may end up doing that.

The Riccar I have right now is the commercial Supralight, with the 35 foot cord.



Post# 218686 , Reply# 61   2/11/2013 at 13:19 (4,091 days old) by GM1982 ()        

The riccar is a very good vacuum... it seems like they are providing good customer service... if you ever needed service or parts, its nearby your home. I think a Riccar would last a lot longer than a Made in China Hoover

Post# 218722 , Reply# 62   2/11/2013 at 15:38 (4,091 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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What I was taken with that video is the metal brush roll on the Riccar and individual brush strips. Thats a sign that a machine is better built. It is a pity we don't have then in the UK, but can they be stripped down easily when removing clogged dust and do the Riccar uprights use lifetime belts or rubber ones where you have to get the tool box out ?

Post# 218748 , Reply# 63   2/11/2013 at 18:52 (4,091 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Riccars and Simplicity's

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Are very easy to work on and if need be unclog . Never heard of one clogging up yet . Belts are lifetime on them . They have a hall sensor to prevent any damage and automatically shut off .
They are very well built long lasting American made vacuums .


Post# 218751 , Reply# 64   2/11/2013 at 19:04 (4,091 days old) by guardsman69 ()        

now that poor misty is ready to slit her throat after reading all this...the best lightweight combo is the hoover platinum uh30010com...even john long loves his despite having the handle release on the wrong side.....with the little canister and upright there is nothing in the lightweights you cannot clean....at 269.99 its great

Post# 218754 , Reply# 65   2/11/2013 at 19:49 (4,091 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Hey Misty...I found a YouTube clip of our friend Bobby from Vacuumland showing off his new Hoover Platinum Lightweight Bagged Upright...hope he does not mind me providing the link here :-) Anyhow - this shows how nice the vac is - sounds like the extra 4 pounds on it makes it a very solid vac at 13 pounds. Still a lot lighter than most uprights (Miele's full size S7 upright weighs 22 pounds because it is a bag first machine with 2 motors, while the Kirby Sentria weighs 23 pounds)...

Bobby shows you how easy it is to change the bag, and you can hear it is a little less noisy than the Riccar. It also features a set of edge cleaning brushes on either side of the nozzle to move any litter clinging to the edge of the baseboards as you clean.

Happy shopping! :-)



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Post# 218790 , Reply# 66   2/11/2013 at 21:47 (4,090 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

I am so grateful that everyone has been so helpful, and invested in my making a good decision. Both my husband and I have used the Riccar Supralight I have on loan until tomorrow. My husband can't see any reason why we wouldn't buy it. It is incredibly lightweight and so comfortable to vacuum with. Given the weight and the suction, I think we can take the chance and try to avoid sucking up anything that would damage the vacuum. It is a little louder than I would like, but that is pretty much the only criticism I have.

My only reservation, or regret I guess, is not being able to try a Sebo. I had been interested in this brand and it would be really nice if I could try one out. I may make a trip to Omaha this weekend to try one before I make my final decision.

I am glad there is a community that can help me work through my inability to make a decision about this. I have an anxiety disorder, and it makes it really difficult for me to make choices, especially about purchasing things. So all of the input has been really helpful.

I am hearing all of the suggestions about the Hoover, but I guess I feel like if I am going to choose a lightweight vacuum, I want to go with the Riccar over the Hoover.


Post# 218792 , Reply# 67   2/11/2013 at 21:57 (4,090 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
A sebo

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is a decent machine but the bags are tiny compared to the Riccar and a sebo has a annoying self adjusting head that constantly adjusts because carpets and floors are not 100 % level . I had an X4 and the auto adjusting head drove me nuts I never felt it was a deep cleaner . The essential G has manual adjustment but again tiny bags . Stick with the Riccar and save the trip .

Post# 218794 , Reply# 68   2/11/2013 at 22:15 (4,090 days old) by mieles7 (TX)        

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I had a Hoover Platinum for a couple weeks. Compared to Oreck, the build quality wasn't the greatest and the vacuum didn't seem to pull itself forward in the carpet as much as the Orecks I have.

Post# 218795 , Reply# 69   2/11/2013 at 22:27 (4,090 days old) by guardsman69 ()        
the new hoover hushtone is even more amazing

the new lightweight replacing the platinum is simply mindblowing a whole new year of new product to put hoover back where it always and will be

Post# 218813 , Reply# 70   2/11/2013 at 23:21 (4,090 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

Thanks for the reassurance, kirbyloverdan.

As far as I know right now, I think I am planning to return the loaner Riccar and buy my own Supralight tomorrow. It will be a relief to have the decision made. I will update when it is officially over (whew!).

I should also mention, back to all of the Hoover love, I purchased a Hoover Linx about amonth ago and I love it very much! Totally replaced a broom and dustpan for me, and is incredibly convenient. I just think for my whole house "serious" vacuum I feel more comfortable with the Riccar. That may be misguided, but I hope I am making a good decision. ANd I hope the Supralight is heavy duty enough to do such constant serious vacuuming, but based on my experince with it, I think that it should be.


Post# 218826 , Reply# 71   2/12/2013 at 02:55 (4,090 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        
@lunchboxsean

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You can buy the Numatic Henry in the US on govacuum.com, I put a link to it.

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Post# 218828 , Reply# 72   2/12/2013 at 03:55 (4,090 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Still, to have benefit of the doubt by all means go and try the Sebo models in Ohama. Then you can take that Felix out of your Amazon cart knowingly! If you do go, try the base models like the X4 or X5 which has a 37cm width brush roll and check if they have that model in store. Ultimately you may find that the machines are much bigger to control until you can realise you'll need just one finger to push the upright along a floor! The Felix is different and requires turning due to its swivel neck.



Post# 218833 , Reply# 73   2/12/2013 at 06:13 (4,090 days old) by GM1982 ()        

Dan is right with the Sebo X4... I had one for a few days but returned it due to the auto height adjustment, I never felt it was deep cleaning. It felt like the head would not raise low enough on some of my carpets. The Sebo Felix I liked better, but then you loose out on the hose feature. You have to connect a separate wand to reach high things.

Your better off with the Riccar, I think vacuums designed and assembled in the US, are better suited for American homes. Our flooring types tend to be more thick carpets, esp in new construction homes. In the northeast/new England, older homes have lots of wood floors, you see people with more canister vacuums. (Kenmore, Miele, A-Electrolux, etc)


Post# 218836 , Reply# 74   2/12/2013 at 08:30 (4,090 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Misty

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you have made the right choice for your home . The Riccar will hold up to all that carpet and anything you can throw at it . Great choice and enjoy your Riccar Supralite .

Dan


Post# 218865 , Reply# 75   2/12/2013 at 12:08 (4,090 days old) by mistyp11 ()        

I have the TOL Riccar Supralight! I am happy the purchase is done. Thank you so much everyone. It has been so helpful.

Post# 218871 , Reply# 76   2/12/2013 at 13:09 (4,090 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Your very welcome! I hope your new Riccar SupraLite gives you years of service!

Post# 218877 , Reply# 77   2/12/2013 at 13:50 (4,090 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )        

Enjoy your new vacuum... Happy vacuuming.

:)

You should still add the SEB236 to your Miele and turn that into a 2nd powerhouse (with a shorter cord) for use on one of the stories of your home.

I have been really looking at that Riccar, but I don't any wall-to-wall carpeting. It does look like a sweet new toy.

ENjoy.


Post# 218914 , Reply# 78   2/12/2013 at 18:06 (4,090 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Misty

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I am so happy you made the right choice . I own the Simplicity version of your Riccar I have the Simplicity F3700 I love it super powerful and works on my Frieze` carpet .

Dan


Post# 218944 , Reply# 79   2/12/2013 at 22:00 (4,089 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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Best of luck with your new Riccar SupraLite. I think you made a great choice! You have a great upright for your wall to wall carpet, and your Miele canister can do your upholstery, hard surface floors and what ever else if you want if your in the mood for a different machine.

Post# 241227 , Reply# 80   7/21/2013 at 14:08 (3,931 days old) by vegassucks ()        
Old post but wanted to Putin my 2 Cents

I understand There is no perfect vacuum and many do a great job. Just wanted to add my 2 cents to the many who had negative views on Sebo vacuums. There is a reason why The Marriott hotel chain and the White House use Sebo/Windsor, they last for ever are simple to service and clean very well.

It is about balance, those extremely aggressive power heads so many like, might be dong more to destroy your carpet than clean it. Sebo vacuum cleaners are built Better Than any machine made and are extremely well balanced. You really do not need to beat the heck out of carpet when u have 114 CFM of air flow, you only need a balanced agitation. When I worked for Sellling Kirby's, none of the sales people including the owner owned one. Most vacuum shop owners who sell Sebo's actually use them in their own homes.


Post# 241320 , Reply# 81   7/21/2013 at 22:25 (3,931 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
A funny little thing happened with my Samsung...

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Well, the SEBO X series in the U.S is available with a manual height adjuster known as the G2/Essential. That should beat those who moan about the SEBO X4 not going deep enough.

Frankly I've never had that problem with SEBO vacs though.

But then I learnt the hard way, destroying a wool carpet when I first started out as a collector and thought that my Dyson was tops. Then I discovered that the suction and hard brush roll was taking off more than just the top layer of dust on the carpet. Now I no longer care about "deep cleaning" a carpet because part of me thinks "am I destroying the carpet by over-cleaning the textures," or "does this carpet really require a proper vacuum run over it, again?"

As some of you know I lost my mum last year and I just knew that she was around the home - just had a feeling, I'm sure those who have lost parents would probably agree - anyway, I did a video in my room with my Samsung Galaxy phone. My own video camera via my SLR camera never picks up what I thought were dust balls flying around the room. The dust balls however were not dust balls, but orbs!

However, when filming parts of the home during the day before vacuuming and in normal daylight, my Samsung phone picks up flying dust very easily. It is more apparent if I walk with the phone in my hand and walk over carpet, only to see the dust flying up and at times have hit carpet patches with my hand. I don't need any more proof that despite my obsession with cleaning and either using a dirty fan vac or a clean air vac that even after cleaning, there's still dust in the air that I can't see and thus settles on the carpet that requires cleaning up yet again.

Thus I don't think it is that important on whether a vacuum cleaner can deep clean carpet or not - because at the end of the day, there's always dust settling on the carpet and it is impossible to keep going over the carpet to ensure all manner of dust is taken up - at the cost of ruining the carpet as well if you over-vacuum. If the top layer dust that I can see is taken away, I'm quite happy with that and in addition, if the pet hairs and anything else gets sucked up, I'm one happy kitty!



Post# 241325 , Reply# 82   7/22/2013 at 00:43 (3,930 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
Well ...

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"There is a reason why The Marriott hotel chain and the White House use Sebo/Windsor, they last for ever are simple to service and clean very well."

****

MAYBE.

But most likely not.

As someone who's been a corporate director and has extensive connections inside the federal government, I can tell you a thing or two about how corporations and governments work in terms of their vendor contracts.

Most of the time, it has nothing to do with the merit of the product, and everything to do with:

-- money
-- money
-- money

And maybe:

-- political favors.

I'm not doubting the merits of the Sebo. But if you really think CFOs and government officers are really worried about deep-cleaning their carpets, you're deluding yourself.



Post# 241367 , Reply# 83   7/22/2013 at 04:40 (3,930 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Mmm well, as you say, Money money money - as a contract cleaner in the 1990s with a contract cleaning firm to see myself through university, our company were a small outfit who were taken on by a lot of different franchises because we were cheaper to hire than larger contract commercial cleaning teams. The choice of machines that we had were the Numatic vacs and the SEBO vacs - both of which at that time weren't cheap to buy either singularly AND bought in bulk numbers.

Other teams that we knew of had old Hoover Seniors and tub canisters etc but the decision to buy Numatic & SEBO was largely down to the fact that they lasted though were expensive to buy initially.




Post# 273952 , Reply# 84   3/29/2014 at 10:47 (3,680 days old) by ilovevacs ()        
here's what is great if your still looking

Get a royal metal vacuum. If you don't mind the noise of the brand new royal everlast that is a great vacuum for deep cleaning but if you don't like the noise get a used model like a model 994 I have one and love it it is light weight but does better than kirby riccar ect. If you want a used model like a model 994 its about $111 to $170 if you wants an everlast its about $600 or $700 that's what I would reccomend too anyone. Here's is a picture of a brand new royal everlast mry 8300.


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