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Post# 218405 , Reply# 1   2/10/2013 at 02:52 (4,092 days old) by mr_mom (pittsburgh (PA))   |   | |
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i would say check out the hoover WindTunnel MAX Pet Plus Multi-Cyclonic i have dogs that sheds and it picks up great but the only thing sometimes i dont like about is when the brush roll is on it is a little loud and if you have little ones who are napping it might wake them up. but you might wanna also check out the Hoover WindTunnel Pet Rewind Plus you have a longer reach of the hose and the brush roll on it is quiet
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Post# 218422 , Reply# 4   2/10/2013 at 06:28 (4,092 days old) by Parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Post# 218429 , Reply# 5   2/10/2013 at 07:54 (4,092 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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The best lightweight upright on the market these days is the Hoover Platinum Lightweight Bagged upright. It deep cleans carpets with excellence, is very easy and light to use, has a really large bag that is easy to change, and is less expensive and quieter than similar lightweight upright by Oreck and Riccar and Simplicity. It indeed is a classic Fan-First configuration - which means the dirt goes thru the fan before being blown into the bag. But the brilliant headlight should help you avoid sucking up coins and anything that could potentially damage the motor. This vac only costs around $300.
If you prefer a bag-first configuration, I highly recommend the white Miele Cat and Dog S7 upright. It is an excellent carpet cleaner and offers you the option of shutting off the brush roll to vacuum bare floors without damaging them. It comes with a nice long 39 foot cord, ergonomic handle, on-board stretch hose and tools, and is very quiet. Though it's heavier than the Hoover, it features a swivel head that makes it very easy to manoeuver. It also has excellent filtration to keep emissions very low. Here's a nice little video about the Cat and Dog: CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekaprince's LINK |
Post# 218431 , Reply# 6   2/10/2013 at 08:12 (4,092 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 218436 , Reply# 7   2/10/2013 at 08:32 (4,092 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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In my lightweight upright test my Simplicity Freedom F3600 did the best beating out two Orecks (xl-21 and ultra) and a Hoover platinum Lightweight.
If you want something with onboard tools the Lindhaus Activa is supposed to run at about 14 lbs i've found it's performance to be pretty good overall You could also go with a Sebo, the G1 and G2, which are comparable to the Lindhaus Activa in price, are more durable though not as effective in cleaning (in my opinion) I would stop into your local vacuum shop/shops or located a dealer for these brands from their website and try them out for yourself at their shop some Sebo dealers even have a test drive program for a month i think. |
Post# 218438 , Reply# 8   2/10/2013 at 08:43 (4,092 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 218478 , Reply# 12   2/10/2013 at 14:27 (4,092 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Kirby lover that would be my first vacuum to recommended the Sentria II which I now own 4 of them but because of Misty`s back problems which everyone seems to over look . How does one with back problems carry a Kirby up and down the stairs ?
Another note with 6000 sqft . of mostly carpet a canister is out as Misty has a Miele canister which is only to be used for attachment and some bare floor cleaning . If you pay in cash you can get the upper end vacuums for way less , just negotiate . I can afford any vacuum but never have I ever paid asking price always usually well under a thousand dollars even if list price is $2000.00 + Dan |
Post# 218485 , Reply# 14   2/10/2013 at 15:09 (4,092 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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I think many members are overlooking the fact that Misty has mentioned a lightweight vacuum. Now while Kirbys are self propelled making the vacuum function relatively easy, the overall heft of travel room to room or upstairs would be quite heavy and cumbersome. Also in case you have any lightweight throw rugs, I would not recommend a Kirby for those.
For the most lightweight vacuum that still offers terrific performance you want the Riccar Supralight or Simplicity Freedom. I like the Hoover Platinum but would still go with Tacony made Riccar or Simplicity over the Hoover especially since it fits in your price range. The Hoover or Taconys will outclean Orecks. On the other hand, I am also wondering what Miele you have? Many Miele canisters allow you to add a power nozzle and electric hose to them for deep cleaning on carpets. Of course age and exact price for adding all of that to the machine is a major consideration so perhaps getting another Miele canister that does have a SEB236 or SEB228 power nozzle would be perfect for you. Even with lots of wall to wall carpet a decent canister vacuum with power nozzle will do a terrific job of deep cleaning carpets. The flexibility of easy manueverability, low profile to reach under beds, cocktail tables and many other pieces of furniture or under low hanging clothes in a closet allows for a complete, thorough cleaning of your home. Canisters are significantly easier to use on stairs as many other chores. You would have 1 vacuum with most if not all attachments stored right there on board. My choice overall is a canister with power nozzle. I would highly recommend Miele, Riccar, Simplicity, Perfect, Royal Lexon SR30020 or refurbished Aerus/ Electrolux canister vacuum. For an upright, I would stay in the bagged range. Bagless tends to clog more, with more frequent filter maintenance and you have to empty the dirt cup with each use or in many cases after a few rooms. The difference between the bagless and bagged vacuums deals with power and capacity. A bagged vacuum like an Aerus canister will stuff and compact the dirt into the bag so that it is about as dense as a brick upon disposal if you let it get to that point. Bagless vacuums don't have that ability. Once the dirt reaches a certain level it just clogs cyclones, airways and/ or filters. It will not compact well in the cup thereby requiring constant emptying which is messy with any vacuum and must be dumped inside a trash bag outside of the house and you'll still have some "dust storm" trying to bang out or in some cases reach in with rag or fingers to grab dirt that has latched itself onto something. Dirt cup emptying on ANY bagless machine is quite messy. For an upright with more versatility and not fan first like the ADVERTISED few lightweights on the market I would look to Riccar Vibrance, Radiance or Brilliance and similar Simplicity. Miele S7 Tango or similar Miele upright, Royal Everlast, Panasonic Performance Plus Platinum, Hoover Windtunnel T bagged or Hoover Windtunnel Max bagged. Although fan first designs, commercial uprights such as numerous Sanitaires and Hoover Professional or Guardsman series will do a terrific job on cleaning. An example of one is in link below. Some people like Sebos and some have found machines that clean better which is the boat I'm in. Sebos are good quality design that are quiet and motors are designed to run at slower speed and start up slower so they last longer. One of their canisters the D4 has a 40' cord which is probably the longest power cord on any canister vacuum on the market. Despite these good points, none of the Sebos have a headlight. I have used a few different models upright and canister and have found that none of them clean as good or have the power of the Riccar, Simplicity, Electrolux or even numerous Hoovers, Panasonics, Eurekas, Kenmores, etc. that I've used. At the price range for which this brand comes in, I think you can EASILY find something that cleans SIGNIFICANTLY better and also is of high quality and offers many conveniences with dollars to spare. Riccar, Simplicity, Miele, Kirby, Aerus, old school Electrolux, many Royals, Kirby, Rainbow, Thermax, Sanitaire, numerous Panasonics, are all of great quality, durable machines. Just for your info, I have done professional household cleaning for 18 years. I have used MANY vacuums both in commercial settings of restaurant, office and hotel settings along with dozens of households that include everything from multi floors with primarily laminate/ hardwood to wall to wall carpet. I am EXTREMELY fussy in the supplies I use as I look to cleaning effectiveness, ease of use, weight and price as my key factors when buying a vacuum for myself or assisting one of my clients with a decision for their own machine. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Durango159's LINK |
Post# 218492 , Reply# 16   2/10/2013 at 15:27 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)   |   | |
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To lift and carry a Kirby, Follow the instructions in the owner's manual/owner's video. |
Post# 218500 , Reply# 17   2/10/2013 at 15:58 (4,092 days old) by luxman107 (USA )   |   | |
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If I had almost 6000 square feet of carpet and did not use my vac for much above the floor cleaning, I would look at a Kirby too. My vac is used 50% of the time for above the floor cleaning so that is why I need a canister |
Post# 218518 , Reply# 22   2/10/2013 at 16:59 (4,092 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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The Miele Cat and Dog upright weighs 22 lbs and it's carry handle is placed in a very balanced position so that it is easy to carry. I don't know about the Vibrance, but in the latest Consumer Reports tests, the Cat and Dog outperformed the Riccar Brilliance in many aspects - it is indeed quieter and offers better handling. And if you do decide to once in a while use the on-board tools to clean a sofa or to dust a baseboard, the Miele has better airflow thru the hose for tool use. But it would be wrong to assume that the Brilliance and the Vibrance would get the same results in their tests. The Vibrance was not tested.
Another benefit to buying the Miele upright is that you'll be able to share any non-electric attachments between the two vacs. If you don't mind a really noisy machine, you might try the Hoover Anniversary Self Propelled WindTunnel. It's a beast to carry up a flight of stairs, but its self-propulsion really makes it a breeze to use on lots of carpeting. It's been the top-rated bagged upright in Consumer Reports testing for almost 10 years now. And it is a Bag-First upright unlike the Kirby which is a Fan-First upright. |
Post# 218521 , Reply# 24   2/10/2013 at 17:09 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)   |   | |
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Google Kirby sales practices. |
Post# 218525 , Reply# 25   2/10/2013 at 17:18 (4,092 days old) by mistyp11 ()   |   | |
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And one more thing while I am thinking of it- I wish the RIccar would do better at picking up around the edges. The sales person told me that almost no vac would do a good job at that, but I am wondering if that is true. |
Post# 218533 , Reply# 26   2/10/2013 at 17:37 (4,092 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 218546 , Reply# 27   2/10/2013 at 18:02 (4,092 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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If you think the Riccar is heavy and gives you a work out stay away from the Miele it is super heavy and very bulky . Some thing consumer reports won't tell you .
You'll get better info from this site and from people like myself than CR . I own Over 400 high end machines and a former vacuum shop manager and vacuum shop owner . You might also want to try the Aerus Guardian upright vacuum long lasting easy bag change and does a great job cleaning . They last forever and are your grandmothers Electrolux . Dan |
Post# 218550 , Reply# 28   2/10/2013 at 18:27 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)   |   | |
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By the way, Rainbow/Filter Queen/Aerus Electrolux/TriStar/Thermax uses the same sales practices as Kirby! :( |
Post# 218552 , Reply# 29   2/10/2013 at 18:31 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)   |   | |
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Also, You are able to shampoo carpets/rugs with the Kirby/Rainbow/Thermax! :) |
Post# 218555 , Reply# 30   2/10/2013 at 18:43 (4,092 days old) by mistyp11 ()   |   | |
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I am looking and can't seem to figure out where I can buy an Aerus? And can anyone say more about Lindhaus? |
Post# 218557 , Reply# 31   2/10/2013 at 18:50 (4,092 days old) by mieles7 (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 218558 , Reply# 32   2/10/2013 at 18:59 (4,092 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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A kirby would be a great choice for that much carpeting, You could seek out a reconditioned unit from a vacuum shop (usually from about 200-600 around here. Yhe G series has a heavy lifting weight but with the tech drive engages it takes about two lbs of effort in order to move it. It would be best to check one out at a shop to see if it would be suitable for you.
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Post# 218561 , Reply# 33   2/10/2013 at 19:18 (4,092 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Sorry for posting twice in a row i just saw the request for more info on Lindhaus
I have been pleased with the Lindhaus brand i have heard of some past issues with the Activas but i've never had any of those problems with my own. The Activa is a single motor system that uses two geared belts with a gear reducer, Most of it's cleaning ability comes from the spiral brushroll i've been rather impressed by what it picks up . It has tools onboard with a stretch hose, a telescopic wand, a combo upholstry tool/dusting brush (i would reccomend a seperate 35mm brush) and a crevice tool. Their standard electrostatic filters work just fine if you don't have allergies but you can upgrade to either a carbon filter to reduce odors or a hepa filter. It comes in the 30 (12" path) and 38 (15 inch path) They are supposed to weigh in at around 14 lbs. Their cost at area shops are about 450 There is also the Diamante which is like the activa but it is a dual motor system where you can shut off the brushroll. The healthcare pro is somewhat heavier but are said to hold up better than the activa, it is a dual motor system as well. It has onboard tools but you must keep the vac close to you when using tools due to the high hose mounting point. Like the Sebo Felix you can put a hard floor tool where the power nozzle connects. The filtration is the same as the activa. As usual i will recommend trying one out in a local shop. |
Post# 218568 , Reply# 35   2/10/2013 at 20:09 (4,092 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)   |   | |
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Misty, I posted the websites for Kirby/Rainbow/Filter Queen/Aerus Electrolux/TriStar/Thermax/Riccar/Simplicity. I also posted the websites for Sanitaire/Eureka/Hoover/Royal. Scroll up to see my links. |
Post# 218579 , Reply# 38   2/10/2013 at 20:36 (4,092 days old) by dustin (Jackson, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 218587 , Reply# 40   2/10/2013 at 21:18 (4,092 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Dysons (in my opinion) are not impressive vacuums their greatest selling point (cyclonic set up) is also their greatest weakness as it makes it hard for air to flow through resulting in terrible airflow.
I see that you are worried about picking up hard objects with the Riccar/Simplicity it's going to be just as big a deal with the Oreck. The Oreck gold has the same set up as my Oreck XL-21 which i put through my lightweight vacuum test it placed 2nd only to the Simplicity |
Post# 218592 , Reply# 41   2/10/2013 at 21:36 (4,092 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)   |   | |
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If you're interested in Oreck, check out Big Lots. I got my Oreck Pilot there for $129 and it was one of the best purchases I've made. It gets used daily in my house. It's great at deep cleaning, and even pulls itself on my very deep pile carpeting. Also, Oreck does a fantastic job refurbishing their vacuums. This was my second factory reconditioned one and it is like getting a brand new one from the Oreck store. Good luck in your search!
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Post# 218601 , Reply# 43   2/10/2013 at 22:04 (4,091 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Quick step and tiny bags plus 6000 sqft .= not a vacuum for Misty you guys must not be reading what Misty wrote . Tiny vacuum bags in the glorified electric broom is a very wrong type of vacuum to recommend .
Orecks have Kevlar fans same stuff bullet proof vests are made of . Best oreck is the Paltinum Pilot . You could order one online try it free for 30 days and return it for free if you dont like it . Dan |
Post# 218608 , Reply# 46   2/10/2013 at 22:28 (4,091 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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I googled your zip code and found this for an Aerus dealer near you:
Aerus #10833 OMAHA, NE 68137 Phone: (402) 596-0846 This location is 42.4 miles away. That's a bit of a hike. I would try your local vacuum shop and they may have some refurbished units available for Aerus, Electrolux, TriStar, or other. Tired after using a canister means your power head is hard to push. Weight with a vacuum is an interesting topic. When you carry a vacuum room to room is when you when you feel most of the weight. As far as usage if you have a decent, powerful vacuum the wheel design, height adjustment, suction control and power of agitator are the factors too be considered in pushing. A Kirby or Hoover Windtunnel Self Propelled excluded as they have a self propelled transmission for forward and reverse. Orecks are the original lightweight vacuum, however they are cheaply designed with agitation not being very powerful and wheels are very low profile and many of their models had wheels that didn't stick out the back. So despite only weighing about 9 pounds, it was like pushing a brick across the carpet on some models due to design. Your Miele Solaris probably has an electric current carrying hose with the Miele SEB217 power head. This power head is meant more for lightweight rugs and not designed for plush carpet. It is not very powerful and agitator is very soft bristled it's not going to offer much help in gliding across the carpet. In contrast using a Miele SEB236 or SEB228 would be a COMPLETELY different vacuuming experience as far as performance, pushing ability and maneuverability. I have used a Simplicity Symmetry which is similar to the Riccar Vibrance. It cleaned well. It wasn't the easiest to manuever and if you look at the brushroll design, there is no edge cleaning on the one side as the belt is on the end of the agitator. There are numerous vacuum designs on the market. No cleaning takes place where the belt is on any. I always look at the bottom of the units to see if there is agitator bristles on both edges although this helps along baseboards, you will find that with any vacuum you'll have to use a crevice tool every once in a while for a complete cleaning along edges. The Riccar Brilliane, Miele S7 series, Royal Everlast are 3 uprights with extremely powerful agitation for grabbing deep down dirt along and better cleaning along edges. See attached link for an example of agitation. I recommend taking a trip to your local vacuum dealer. See what they recommend and have on the floor. Ask about what refurbished units they have. Try out any vacs of interest canister and upright. At least if you can try a few products of a brand, it will give you an idea of ease of use, features, attachments and either find one in their showroom that you like or order a different unit through them or elsewhere. Trying before you buy is crucial. You can see the differences in weight between lifting units and pushing them. Husker Vacuum & SEWING (402) 466 - 4550 1309 N. 48TH LINCOLN, NE 68504 Distance: ~4 miles Riccar Dealer Lindhaus Dealer Royal Dealer RANDOLPH VAC (402) 438 - 3163 2712 RANDOLPH LINCOLN, NE 68510 Distance: ~2 miles Directions To Here Simplicity Dealer CLICK HERE TO GO TO Durango159's LINK |
Post# 218613 , Reply# 48   2/10/2013 at 22:48 (4,091 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)   |   | |
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Here are some uprights that offer excellent agitation/airflow/suction: Sanitaire/Eureka F&G machines, Hoover Convertibles/Decades, Royal All Metal machines, Kirby Generation 3/G4/G5/Gsix/Ultimate G/Diamond Edition/Sentria/Sentria II. |
Post# 218646 , Reply# 50   2/11/2013 at 09:05 (4,091 days old) by dustin (Jackson, MI)   |   | |
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If you want to take a look at Panasonic uprights, I cant recommend a specific machine, I would however recommend a bagged unit.. You should just go to a vac shop that sells Panasonic, take a look at what's available, and try some vacuums out. Its hard to recommend a vacuum, because all of us have our preferences, and most are different. Some like Kirbys (I personally don't), some like Miele, some like, Hoover, Etc... It would be best to take our recommendations with a grain of salt, and while keeping it in mind, go to vac shops and try out the machines, The most important is that you are happy with your vacuum. That may be a $40 Bissell or a $2000 Kirby.
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Post# 218668 , Reply# 54   2/11/2013 at 11:22 (4,091 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Misty, if you are going to go for a fan-first upright like the Supralight, you sre better off with the Hoover Platinum Lightweight upright. It is a much quieter vac and Hoover uprights are more reliable as far as needing repairs are concerned. Simplicity and Riccar as a brand are not as reliable as Hoover when it comes to uprights in recent years, so if you buy the Hoover Lightweight, you'll have less chance of having to bring it in for repair. Though it comes with a companion portable canister vac (which you don't need), you can also get the vac at a lower price without the little over the shoulder Portapower.
The Hoover Platinum Lightweight also costs far less than the Riccar or the Oreck. Vacuumland's Vacuumfreak just bought one of these Hoovers and he loves it!!! |
Post# 218669 , Reply# 55   2/11/2013 at 11:25 (4,091 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Personally Misty, if you have all the kinds of things to put up with like coins and marbles on carpets or hard floors, pets and on top of that, all that carpet, I have to say a Sebo upright rules the roost, be it the Felix or the X. They're both made to withstand the pick up of things like that. Certainly if you can test run a Windsor Sensor (this is the commercial upright and older model before the SEBO X4) in your home, you'll get a better idea of what the Sebo can offer you.
I notice there's a video featuring the Riccar on You Tube against an Oreck. Just by looking at the design, bear in mind you'll need a machine that doesn't clog up easily and is easy to dismantle if you do require pet hair to be cleaned out of it/clogs up. I don't think I could live with the noise though. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK |
Post# 218679 , Reply# 58   2/11/2013 at 12:16 (4,091 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Just another point of comparison between the Riccar Supralight and the Hoover Platinum Bagged Lightweight: the Riccar comes with a 30 foot cord whereas the Hoover comes with a 35 foot cord. But the Riccar weighs only 9 lbs while the Hoover weighs 13 lbs. You should try out the Hoover if you can....it's a pleasure to use!
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Post# 218683 , Reply# 59   2/11/2013 at 12:49 (4,091 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Blimey.. having to drive an bour is a downside? You want to live in Scotland where it takes 2 hours and a half to get a ferry, then a train to the city. But then its double the time if the weather is bad and the ferry is cancelled and the 4 hour trip around to Glasgow on the old Glasgow road. Not much fun. Frankly I can't wait to sell up and move!
Seriously, I can see there's a seller in Ohama who sell Sebo or Windsor but if an hour is too much for you, so be it. The Windsor is the cheapest model but both the Sensor and X4 are incredibly easy to maintain plus they've all won awards and both have 40ft of cable and 4.8 quarts capacity bags. The Felix has a smaller capacity of 3/07 quarts per bag and 31ft of cord. Dont know about the Hoover or Riccar models but dust bags and filters for SEBO vacs last a lot longer than a lot of their rivals and you get 7 or 10 in a box for the same price you'd pay for 4 of Miele dust bags. |
Post# 218684 , Reply# 60   2/11/2013 at 12:55 (4,091 days old) by mistyp11 ()   |   | |
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I wouldn't rule out driving to Omaha, I very well may end up doing that. The Riccar I have right now is the commercial Supralight, with the 35 foot cord. |
Post# 218686 , Reply# 61   2/11/2013 at 13:19 (4,091 days old) by GM1982 ()   |   | |
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The riccar is a very good vacuum... it seems like they are providing good customer service... if you ever needed service or parts, its nearby your home. I think a Riccar would last a lot longer than a Made in China Hoover |
Post# 218722 , Reply# 62   2/11/2013 at 15:38 (4,091 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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What I was taken with that video is the metal brush roll on the Riccar and individual brush strips. Thats a sign that a machine is better built. It is a pity we don't have then in the UK, but can they be stripped down easily when removing clogged dust and do the Riccar uprights use lifetime belts or rubber ones where you have to get the tool box out ?
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Post# 218748 , Reply# 63   2/11/2013 at 18:52 (4,091 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 218754 , Reply# 65   2/11/2013 at 19:49 (4,091 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Hey Misty...I found a YouTube clip of our friend Bobby from Vacuumland showing off his new Hoover Platinum Lightweight Bagged Upright...hope he does not mind me providing the link here :-) Anyhow - this shows how nice the vac is - sounds like the extra 4 pounds on it makes it a very solid vac at 13 pounds. Still a lot lighter than most uprights (Miele's full size S7 upright weighs 22 pounds because it is a bag first machine with 2 motors, while the Kirby Sentria weighs 23 pounds)...
Bobby shows you how easy it is to change the bag, and you can hear it is a little less noisy than the Riccar. It also features a set of edge cleaning brushes on either side of the nozzle to move any litter clinging to the edge of the baseboards as you clean. Happy shopping! :-) CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekaprince's LINK |
Post# 218792 , Reply# 67   2/11/2013 at 21:57 (4,090 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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is a decent machine but the bags are tiny compared to the Riccar and a sebo has a annoying self adjusting head that constantly adjusts because carpets and floors are not 100 % level . I had an X4 and the auto adjusting head drove me nuts I never felt it was a deep cleaner . The essential G has manual adjustment but again tiny bags . Stick with the Riccar and save the trip .
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Post# 218794 , Reply# 68   2/11/2013 at 22:15 (4,090 days old) by mieles7 (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 218795 , Reply# 69   2/11/2013 at 22:27 (4,090 days old) by guardsman69 ()   |   | |
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the new lightweight replacing the platinum is simply mindblowing a whole new year of new product to put hoover back where it always and will be |
Post# 218826 , Reply# 71   2/12/2013 at 02:55 (4,090 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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You can buy the Numatic Henry in the US on govacuum.com, I put a link to it.
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Post# 218828 , Reply# 72   2/12/2013 at 03:55 (4,090 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Still, to have benefit of the doubt by all means go and try the Sebo models in Ohama. Then you can take that Felix out of your Amazon cart knowingly! If you do go, try the base models like the X4 or X5 which has a 37cm width brush roll and check if they have that model in store. Ultimately you may find that the machines are much bigger to control until you can realise you'll need just one finger to push the upright along a floor! The Felix is different and requires turning due to its swivel neck.
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Post# 218836 , Reply# 74   2/12/2013 at 08:30 (4,090 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 218865 , Reply# 75   2/12/2013 at 12:08 (4,090 days old) by mistyp11 ()   |   | |
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I have the TOL Riccar Supralight! I am happy the purchase is done. Thank you so much everyone. It has been so helpful. |
Post# 218871 , Reply# 76   2/12/2013 at 13:09 (4,090 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)   |   | |
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Your very welcome! I hope your new Riccar SupraLite gives you years of service! |
Post# 218914 , Reply# 78   2/12/2013 at 18:06 (4,090 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 218944 , Reply# 79   2/12/2013 at 22:00 (4,089 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Post# 241320 , Reply# 81   7/21/2013 at 22:25 (3,931 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well, the SEBO X series in the U.S is available with a manual height adjuster known as the G2/Essential. That should beat those who moan about the SEBO X4 not going deep enough.
Frankly I've never had that problem with SEBO vacs though. But then I learnt the hard way, destroying a wool carpet when I first started out as a collector and thought that my Dyson was tops. Then I discovered that the suction and hard brush roll was taking off more than just the top layer of dust on the carpet. Now I no longer care about "deep cleaning" a carpet because part of me thinks "am I destroying the carpet by over-cleaning the textures," or "does this carpet really require a proper vacuum run over it, again?" As some of you know I lost my mum last year and I just knew that she was around the home - just had a feeling, I'm sure those who have lost parents would probably agree - anyway, I did a video in my room with my Samsung Galaxy phone. My own video camera via my SLR camera never picks up what I thought were dust balls flying around the room. The dust balls however were not dust balls, but orbs! However, when filming parts of the home during the day before vacuuming and in normal daylight, my Samsung phone picks up flying dust very easily. It is more apparent if I walk with the phone in my hand and walk over carpet, only to see the dust flying up and at times have hit carpet patches with my hand. I don't need any more proof that despite my obsession with cleaning and either using a dirty fan vac or a clean air vac that even after cleaning, there's still dust in the air that I can't see and thus settles on the carpet that requires cleaning up yet again. Thus I don't think it is that important on whether a vacuum cleaner can deep clean carpet or not - because at the end of the day, there's always dust settling on the carpet and it is impossible to keep going over the carpet to ensure all manner of dust is taken up - at the cost of ruining the carpet as well if you over-vacuum. If the top layer dust that I can see is taken away, I'm quite happy with that and in addition, if the pet hairs and anything else gets sucked up, I'm one happy kitty! |
Post# 241325 , Reply# 82   7/22/2013 at 00:43 (3,930 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)   |   | |
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"There is a reason why The Marriott hotel chain and the White House use Sebo/Windsor, they last for ever are simple to service and clean very well."
**** MAYBE. But most likely not. As someone who's been a corporate director and has extensive connections inside the federal government, I can tell you a thing or two about how corporations and governments work in terms of their vendor contracts. Most of the time, it has nothing to do with the merit of the product, and everything to do with: -- money -- money -- money And maybe: -- political favors. I'm not doubting the merits of the Sebo. But if you really think CFOs and government officers are really worried about deep-cleaning their carpets, you're deluding yourself. |
Post# 241367 , Reply# 83   7/22/2013 at 04:40 (3,930 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Mmm well, as you say, Money money money - as a contract cleaner in the 1990s with a contract cleaning firm to see myself through university, our company were a small outfit who were taken on by a lot of different franchises because we were cheaper to hire than larger contract commercial cleaning teams. The choice of machines that we had were the Numatic vacs and the SEBO vacs - both of which at that time weren't cheap to buy either singularly AND bought in bulk numbers.
Other teams that we knew of had old Hoover Seniors and tub canisters etc but the decision to buy Numatic & SEBO was largely down to the fact that they lasted though were expensive to buy initially. |