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Thread Number: 19553
Simplicity Synergy X9 or G9? |
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| Post# 217220 , Reply# 1 2/2/2013 at 09:34 (4,325 days old) by heritageiihd () | ||
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PS, why is it so hard to get someone to want to sell me the Premium? I've been to two Simplicity dealers and both only stocked the Standard -- you ask about the Premium and it's like you've asked them for a kilo of cocaine or something. | ||
| Post# 217244 , Reply# 4 2/2/2013 at 13:31 (4,325 days old) by mieles7 (TX) | ||
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| Post# 217246 , Reply# 5 2/2/2013 at 13:32 (4,325 days old) by mieles7 (TX) | ||
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| Post# 217314 , Reply# 6 2/2/2013 at 21:06 (4,325 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
Premium vs standard | ||
| Post# 217316 , Reply# 7 2/2/2013 at 21:59 (4,325 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
According to Consumer Reports surveys of people who have recently bought vacuums, Simplicity is not the most reliable brand in the category of uprights, unfortunately. Here's a quote and some stats from their website:
Kirby was among the least repair-prone brands of upright vacuums, while Rainbow was among the least repair-prone brands of canister vacuums. Hoover and Electrolux were the most repair-prone brands of canister vacuums. That's what we found when we asked more than 102,000 readers who bought a vacuum between 2008 and 2012 about their experiences. The graph shows the percentage of models for each brand that were repaired or had a serious problem. Differences of less than 4 points aren't meaningful, and we've adjusted the data to eliminate differences linked solely to age and use of the vacuum. Models within a brand can vary, and design or manufacture changes might affect future reliability. Still, choosing a brand with a good repair history can improve your odds of getting a reliable model. And here are the percentages.... Kirby: 3% Dirt Devil: 6% Bissell, Kenmore, Eureka, Dyson: 7% Hoover 8% Oreck 9% Electrolux and Panasonic 10% Simplicity 11% Riccar 12% Brand names that are not on the list mean there were not enough responses for that brand to offer a significant statistic. It will be interesting to see where Miele uprights place once there are enough statistics....:-) | ||
| Post# 217325 , Reply# 8 2/3/2013 at 00:32 (4,325 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
I was an 
authorized Simplicity dealer and they were very reliable . I only had one back for a user broken fan on a supra light . Consumer Reports is very UNRELIABLE as many vacuum experts will tell you . Ignore anything they say and use it as a reference ONLY .
Being in the vacuum industry for my entire life and owning a store and over 400 vacuums I think I am a tad bit more qualified then consumer reports . Lets see CR open a store sell and repair vacuums . Yes they had 102,000 report but how many reported for each brand ? It could have been 2 people for Simplicity and they could have a grudge against them that survey is very flawed along with their testing IMHO .They are not the bible of products . Derrek , you`ll get better information from people from this site than CR could ever give you . This post was last edited 02/03/2013 at 01:00 | ||
| Post# 217698 , Reply# 10 2/5/2013 at 11:30 (4,322 days old) by swiveltop (Galveston, TX) | ||
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Congrats on the new Synergy,You will love this machine, Especially since you may never have to replace the belt, I opened the hood on my X-9 just to take a look and was surprised to find a serpentine belt with a tensioner,just like you would find on a car,belt was still perfect after several years. | ||
| Post# 217769 , Reply# 12 2/5/2013 at 19:34 (4,322 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Your Simplicity dealer
Hates the dirty air motor ?
So why doesn't he mind selling the Freedom with the dirty air motor ? There are many dealers who won't sell the TOL models because they don't want to spend the money and are not good at selling TOL vacuums because they just want to make a quick buck . When I had my store my Simplicity , Miele and Royal dealers loved me because I stocked the entire line and sold mainly the TOL models . I hear this too often and it's always because they are too cheap to spend money on the TOL models . The Synergy is on of the best uprights out there way better than the Miele in my opinion . | ||
| Post# 217780 , Reply# 13 2/5/2013 at 20:25 (4,322 days old) by lunchboxsean () | ||
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That very well may be. I'm not him, so all I know is what he tells me. If I had to guess, I might say that a dirty air motor on $250 light weight vacuum may be more acceptable than a dirty air motor on a $1000+ premium. Again, unfortunately, I don't know. | ||
| Post# 217784 , Reply# 14 2/5/2013 at 20:34 (4,322 days old) by GM1982 () | ||
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I don't think the consumer wants to spend $800+ on a Simplicity TOL ,when they can get the same kind of vacuum with metal base plate, longer hose, swivel, no switch to change to tools...all for about $500-700. The Miele S7 models outsell. | ||
| Post# 217809 , Reply# 15 2/5/2013 at 23:18 (4,322 days old) by mieles7 (TX) | ||
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The Simplicity Synchrony, Synergy, and 7 series all have metal base plates standard, and the Vibrance doesn't require a switch to be turned for attachment use. From what I have read on this site, Miele parts are very expensive and take a long time to ship. Besides, Miele S7 bags are about $19 with 4 bags, while the Synergy's bags are $17 for 6. I was very skeptical of Riccar until I found an 8900 for $30. The cloth bags filter well, and the vacuum has great agitation.
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| Post# 217849 , Reply# 17 2/6/2013 at 07:12 (4,321 days old) by heritageiihd () | ||
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I got lucky, I guess -- not to be gauche and talk pricing, but I paid $650 brand new for mine. The other dealer in town wanted nearly $900 for the same thing. It was a pretty fair deal. | ||
| Post# 217850 , Reply# 18 2/6/2013 at 07:15 (4,321 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Cheaper Miele bags
Dont forget - there are still oodles of sellers out there who are selling the IntensiveClean dust bags before the self sealing HyClean bags came on the market. As with what GM says, I find the IntensiveClean bags to be just as effective as the HyClean ones; even more so if you have either Active Air Clean or HEPA filter cartridges added. I have a habit of hoarding the IntensiveClean Miele dust bags and shopping around for them online as opposed to the more expensive HyClean series.
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