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Post# 207809   11/26/2012 at 08:38 (2,690 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Guess what?

on google I found a picture of numatic william!





Post# 207819 , Reply# 1   11/26/2012 at 10:34 (2,690 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I wonder why they used the Hoover style floor tool here instead of the standard Numatic one?

That seems to be an industrial style model which still retains the personal details of the domestic line.


Post# 207825 , Reply# 2   11/26/2012 at 10:50 (2,690 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

please correct me if i'm wrong, but in the early 90's, numatic launched their trio- green David, the new george(which replaced the very short lived Nuvac) and this william. of coure the only one which sold was George, as no one would get the david as the henry was the same but cheaper, and people thought if your going to buy a wet and dry vac like william you might as well get george which does carpet washing too! so not many are around today.

Post# 207828 , Reply# 3   11/26/2012 at 10:54 (2,690 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Sounds about right. I'm sure Benny will be able to help us out further though!

Post# 207834 , Reply# 4   11/26/2012 at 11:03 (2,690 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

I think it is Turbo500 who has the most information. He had pictures of all different machines. The William was a 1990's version of Charles. Numatic often try altering certain factors, usually reverting to form, and this was one such case. The tried a range of cleaners with plastic 35mm tubes. They did not stick with the idea for very long. I think maybe it was to reduce costs and offer a cheaper range of cleaners. The pedal tool in the photograph here was a genric style used by a good deal of different brands in the 1990's.

Post# 207846 , Reply# 5   11/26/2012 at 11:49 (2,690 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Thanks for all the info guys!

Post# 207852 , Reply# 6   11/26/2012 at 12:49 (2,689 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I don't have any info on these, unfortunately. James or Ryan might, if they're about. I'll give them both a poke...


Post# 207865 , Reply# 7   11/26/2012 at 13:35 (2,689 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Ok, here's what I've got. Info courtesy of Ryan and James.

 

William was originally green (this pic is black and white) and a slightly lower spec version of Charles, with plastic tubes. It didn't last very long before being replaced with Charles. Ryan is going to post some brochure scans when he can. 

 

Watch this space.


Post# 207868 , Reply# 8   11/26/2012 at 13:47 (2,689 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Are they just giving new names to every cleaner?

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Then, the "collecting" will really start.  They'll be like baseball cards...you'll want to "collect them all"... without the bubblegum.


Post# 207870 , Reply# 9   11/26/2012 at 14:03 (2,689 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Are they just giving new names to every cleaner?

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No.

After the Wendy name was dropped, all the cleaners were named after members of the royal family - James, Henry, Charles, George, Edward, William. I think the only exceptions to the rule, to date, are Wendy, Hetty and David. Not sure where the names for those came form. 


Post# 207872 , Reply# 10   11/26/2012 at 14:13 (2,689 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Poor Basil has been forgotten again.

Post# 207874 , Reply# 11   11/26/2012 at 14:16 (2,689 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Awww, poor basil lol

Post# 207904 , Reply# 12   11/26/2012 at 15:47 (2,689 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Pic courtesy of Ryan (ry_ry87). This one dates from 1990. 


Post# 207914 , Reply# 13   11/26/2012 at 16:14 (2,689 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"Poor Basil has been forgotten again."

That always happens.

I'm keeping my eye out for one, would be a nice addition.


Post# 207986 , Reply# 14   11/27/2012 at 13:15 (2,688 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

ah i was right to say that william was introuduced in the trio of george, david and william!
oh and what about the other forgotten numatics? anyone heard of Benson? nationwide? nuvac? i have pics:


Post# 207990 , Reply# 15   11/27/2012 at 13:17 (2,688 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

nuvac 1

Post# 207991 , Reply# 16   11/27/2012 at 13:17 (2,688 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

and this one

Post# 207992 , Reply# 17   11/27/2012 at 13:19 (2,688 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

nationwide

Post# 207998 , Reply# 18   11/27/2012 at 13:36 (2,688 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I have seen all of them but benson,

I thought that numatic don't name the industial vacuums.


Post# 208002 , Reply# 19   11/27/2012 at 13:56 (2,688 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

i didn't either!!! and theres the new nuvac they've brought out in red:

Post# 208003 , Reply# 20   11/27/2012 at 13:57 (2,688 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

and the 2 limited edition grey ones:


Post# 208004 , Reply# 21   11/27/2012 at 13:58 (2,688 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

2:


Post# 208005 , Reply# 22   11/27/2012 at 13:58 (2,688 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

and one thats not from the uk:


Post# 208007 , Reply# 23   11/27/2012 at 14:04 (2,688 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

also i think they made one called bernie, and a few models said 'bx.bx' on them!

Post# 208008 , Reply# 24   11/27/2012 at 14:10 (2,688 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Heres a picture of bernie

Post# 208009 , Reply# 25   11/27/2012 at 14:12 (2,688 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Heres a picture of bx.bx

Post# 208046 , Reply# 26   11/27/2012 at 22:45 (2,688 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Will they name one

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Betty?  Maybe add a tiara.........a little hat?


Post# 208073 , Reply# 27   11/28/2012 at 13:31 (2,687 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

i really don't get Bx.Bx- what kind of name is that?

Post# 209320 , Reply# 28   12/9/2012 at 15:34 (2,676 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

Bx.Bx, Benson, Nationwide etc were supplied especially to various cleaning or cleaning supply companies with their own company branding on.

Post# 209399 , Reply# 29   12/10/2012 at 10:46 (2,676 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

oh thanks ryan:)

Post# 256356 , Reply# 30   11/15/2013 at 09:59 (2,336 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Here's William in another brochure, courtesy of Ryan (Ry_ry87).

~ Joe


Post# 256363 , Reply# 31   11/15/2013 at 11:33 (2,336 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

That early George looks brilliant! Would love an early toolkit like that too

I worked with a Bernie before, pre dates on the serial vintage, with a toolkit a quarter of her age but puured along nicely

Then I got told off as I'd nicked it from the external cleaners cupboard rather than our department 2006 Henry so had to stop.

Wish I'd 'rescued' her now when I quit!


Post# 256364 , Reply# 32   11/15/2013 at 11:57 (2,336 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I have one of the first Georges from 1990, brilliant machines!

What was the motor wattage and serial number on it Sam? Would be interesting to know. Also what was model number?

I wish you would have rescued it too! They're mega rare.

~ Joe


Post# 256365 , Reply# 33   11/15/2013 at 12:09 (2,336 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

At the carboots like last year or early 2013, I saw a numatic, it was blue like charles, but had a bigger bucket, and no face, it was also called "OCS"

Post# 256368 , Reply# 34   11/15/2013 at 14:10 (2,335 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Was 900w IIRC, no idea of, or pictures of the serial though




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