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Post# 203281   10/9/2012 at 19:12 (2,727 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

What are the differences between this machine and the new Guardian Upright? Other than HEPA. More powerful motor? Better suction and or airflow? I want a Lux upright, but not one from the discovery series and I don't want one of the ugly interim Aerus 4000 or 6000 on board tool uprights. Also, how might an epic handle frieze carpet? I remember kirbyloverdan saying the new one does well on his, but would the older ones brush motor be underpowered especially once it has the new design brushroll?

Post# 203310 , Reply# 1   10/9/2012 at 22:05 (2,727 days old) by jdrums0789 ()        

I have the dark gray Epic 3500SR, and I love it. Its been able to handle every type of carpet ive thrown at it, including frieze and thick pile area rugs. Its my go to upright when its something the kirby would eat.
That being said, I do wish it did have stronger suction.
Also, Lux uprights are the only ones I know of that have a self powered mini brush. The side kick is amazing on stairs and pet hair.
Do be prepared to change the bag often, which isnt really a problem. Style U bags are widely available at very low prices.

Post# 203351 , Reply# 2   10/10/2012 at 05:38 (2,726 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

Thanks for the help. I will have to get a surplus of bags as we have dogs and I imagine they fill rather quickly.

Post# 203360 , Reply# 3   10/10/2012 at 09:47 (2,726 days old) by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        

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If I could make a suggestion sounds like you might be best going for one of the Aerus knockoff uprights, that use the U bags....such as ProTeam for instance. These can be found on Ebay quite frequently, usually for around $300-$450 dollars. Since the year 2000, Aerus has put much better motors in their uprights than before, & they do produce quite a bit more suction & airflow. The new knockoffs, such as ProTeam, Sanitaire, HD2, & others, also have these high-powered motors that produce the same suction & airflow ratings the Aerus uprights are capable of. Quality should not be a concern, either....most of these source their motors from the same place, & use common parts....just a different name & color, that's all. And I would expect to pay about half for a ProTeam on Ebay as you would for a base model upright from Aerus.

As far as putting the new-style brushroll in an older Aerus upright, such as an Epic 3500, YES you will be putting more strain on the motor than the manufacturer intented, & it will turn the brush slower. Again, Aerus has made the brushroll motor more powerful in recent years, they had to put more power into it when the new brushroll was brought out into the new uprights & canisters. The new knockoff makes, such as ProTeam, also have the new motor & brushroll design.

Unless you absolutely HAVE to have the electric hose & mini powerhead, you would be best served going with the ProTeam upright. It has one advantage over the other's the only one, that I know of, that has a HEPA filter built-in like the Aerus Guardian upright has. And the suction is VERY powerful on it, should have no problem using a Wessell Werk hand turbobrush with the ProTeam. If having the HEPA filter from the Aerus Guardian & electric hose & mini powerhead is a priority, though, I would strongly suggest you look at picking up a Electrolux Discovery Series off Ebay. I think if you got one for under $150, put the HEPA filter housing onto it, bought a hose & mini PN, & budget money for a replacement motor, brushroll motor & brushroll, & you can do the labor yourself I would think you could get away with spending $550-$600 dollars max, & save at least $400 dollars off the price of buying the Aerus Guardian new.

Going through bags quickly shouldn't be an issue. The bags are a decent size, & pet hair has a tendency to pack down inside a bag. It would especially do this in the Style U bags due to their design & placement in the vacuum.

Good luck with your new upright....Rob

Post# 203371 , Reply# 4   10/10/2012 at 11:10 (2,726 days old) by JDrums0789 ()        

You could also check around locally. I found mine at a thrift store for $50.00

As for the bags, I guess Im just used to following 2 huskies around, so I fill them up rather quickly. :)

Post# 203569 , Reply# 5   10/12/2012 at 14:38 (2,724 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

I also just realized it will slide under my bed neatly for storage. Mom can't complain about that one!

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