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Post# 194403   8/12/2012 at 08:22 (2,792 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

Hey everyone, lately I have been having trouble making decisions and this is no exception. I am trying to sell my Kirby and Electrolux Ergorapido Ion in order to get the funding for a new power team.

So far my choices are:

Hoover Platinum Collection Lightweight Bagged Upright, with a LINX stick and pet rechargeable.

Hoover Anniversary Edition Windtunnel Bagged Self Propelled Upright, with a Royal Pro Series Stick Vac (same as the linx except in royal's color scheme and is corded), as well as a Royal Pro Series Handheld (Same as the dirt devil classic)

I love the look of the platinum collection, but I have heard bad things about the outer bag getting odor soaked. I am unsure as to whether or not you could wash it. I picked the royal machines to go with the anniversary because they match color a little better than the platinum linx setup. I am also unsure of the linx longevity compared to its corded royal and Hoover counterparts. The reason I need a stick is because it must hold up to everyday vacuuming our average sized low pile carpeted basement, so the big guys expensive bags don't fill as quickly with dog hair.

Thanks for all who are able to help!





Post# 194411 , Reply# 1   8/12/2012 at 09:52 (2,792 days old) by starryblues4u (Charlotte, NC)        
hmmm

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I have the Hoover lightweight platinum and have not had any odors stay in the bag. Its an awesome vacuum. I also have the Hoover anniversary self propelled windtunnel. I like that vacuum too :) both are a good choice.

Post# 194422 , Reply# 2   8/12/2012 at 12:05 (2,792 days old) by Ipreferkirby ()        
Clean Air vs Direct Air

It is a matter of if you want a clean air upright or a direct air upright. The Problem with the hoover direct air is that they have a plastic fan in a plastic fan casing. So I would recommenced the Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary Edition power team over the Hoover Platinum bagged.

Post# 194426 , Reply# 3   8/12/2012 at 13:12 (2,792 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

I do like direct air vacuums more, but I would be concerned about the plastic fan and fan case. Right now it's pretty much down to appearance. I love them both, as my favorite color is the blue on the anniversary, but I also like the design of the platinum. My mom would never let me have two uprights, as they "take up too much space". As far as build quality starryblues4u, which one feels more solid? I have heard the platinum is built better than most Orecks. In the end, I am still unsure if I can make the decision.


Post# 194427 , Reply# 4   8/12/2012 at 13:21 (2,792 days old) by starryblues4u (Charlotte, NC)        
build quality

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To me the platinum series feels for stable. The plastic on the anniversary edition feels more flimsy.

Post# 194428 , Reply# 5   8/12/2012 at 13:31 (2,792 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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I'd go for the all Hoover ensemble. It will look more like a matching set than the Windtunnel and Royal pair. I would not worry about the plastic fan and housing. Even the cheaply made direct air fan setups do not break as easily as some people suggest. Hoover Elites use some of the weakest plastics I've ever seen on a vacuum, but they go on working for decades. Plus, you get five year warranty from Hoover. If the fan breaks, take it to your local TTI dealer and it's good as new. As long as you don't suck up hard objects, you'll be fine.

Post# 194432 , Reply# 6   8/12/2012 at 14:00 (2,792 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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The Hoover Platinum Lightweight upright is an excellent deep carpet cleaner and is quieter than the Hoover Self Propelled WT. It's also a lot easier to move around and carry up and down flights of stairs. Teamed up with a good canister for cleaning of everything but carpets, this vac is a great investment. It's also cheaper than the Hoover Self Propelled upright, and the bag is easier to change.

Post# 194439 , Reply# 7   8/12/2012 at 15:01 (2,792 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

Well thank you very much for all your advice. I think I may have finally hit the tipping point and am going to buy the all platinum line. I would like to get the corded platinum stick vac instead of the cordless because of the longevity (lithium ion batteries don't last forever). But, if I also want the motorized handheld for my stairs I might as well get both as they use the same battery. Now this is my final question:

The corded or cordless platinum stick vacuum? It needs to hold up to daily vacuuming of my basement. (low pile carpet). The Ergorapido Ion does okay, but I can only get about 2/3 of it done in its fifteen minute run time because of the dog hair. The LINX would work for me if I could do one swipe just barely slower than a normal upright to get the entire basement clean on one charge. It needs to be able to be used as a pre vacuum so as too not fill the platinum bags as fast (they are ridiculously expensive for a 14 year old looking to buy a car soon).

Anybody that's owns both corded and cordless I would much appreciate your help! Thank you.


Post# 194443 , Reply# 8   8/12/2012 at 15:42 (2,792 days old) by FantomVacuumFan (St.Petersburg, Florida)        
Its used....

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But there is a Hoover Platinum Collection Upright on ebay for $50.00 to buy it now. I did not read the listing, so make sure to read it in case anything is wrong with it, but here is the link below :)

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Post# 194448 , Reply# 9   8/12/2012 at 15:55 (2,792 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I have the Platinum line

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Big surprise, huh?

  I also have the Anniversary Windtunnel.  All will perform and last if kept well. One should never pick up big, sharp things in any vacuum.

Also, for a low end vac,  The HOOVER Tempo has been giving great results.  That is one cleaner I do not have. 

 Looks like HOOVER is winning.   Hope you enjoy your new vacuum. Here's my Platinum in the midst of the demolition/renovation/restoration. BUT,  I HATE, HATE, HATE the handle release on th wrong side.  Since time began,  it was ALWAYS on the left.  I can imagine how many have been broken because of this.

John.


Post# 194470 , Reply# 10   8/12/2012 at 18:13 (2,792 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke ()        

I wonder why you would get the hand held if you went with the self-propelled Windtunnel, but not if you went with the Platinum light weight bagged.... it would seem to me that the Windtunnel would come with a hose and a turbo tool and that the Platinum Lightweight bagged would not, so it would be more necessary with that one!

Unless.... are you getting the Platinum with the companion canister?

I have both the Self-Propelled WindTunnel and the Platinum Lighweight bagged... I got the Platinum on Craig's List for 40 bucks, and it didn't come with the companion canister, but at that price, I was OK with that...

I can only echo what everyone else has said... they are both good looking, powerful machines, but there are some drawbacks to each. The WindTunnel is loud and feels cheaply made... it's also heavy and bulky and cumbersome, due to weight alone, even though it's self-propelled... it's just not nearly as agile as its more modern cousin, the Platinum light weight bagged. Though the self propelled has a bare floor feature and a hose, the machine really does best on carpet. ON bare floors, it misses or snow-plows and during attachment use, the hose short hose snaps tight and fights you the whole way... It also has two belts that have to be changed, and the tranny belt is a nightmare.... the Platinum is supposed to have a lifetime belt.

The Platinum Lightweight Bagged makes me smile EVERY time I use it. Seriously, I just want to give it a hug before I put it back on display every time I finish using it... It looks great and is agile, nimble, and while not silent, has pleasant throaty sound. It is extremely powerful, despite its small size and light weight, and the controls are well placed.

The only problems with the Platinum are that, as John mentioned, the handle release pedal is on the wrong side (Sebo/Windsor do that too)... so counter-intuitive... and more annoying than you'd imagine. I would agree about the bag holding odors... I bought mine from a dog owner, and I've soaked the bag in Febreeze because I couldn't figure out how to take it off easily to wash and it still holds the smell several months later. Since you'll likely be buying new, it won't have that problem to start with, but you said you do have pets so it is something to consider. The other thing is that the hand grip has a rubberized coating on the inside, and mine has started to peel... very annoying, but it was like that when I bought it used, so again, your new one likely wouldn't have that problem to start with, but it may well develop over time...

Bags are expensive, but to counteract that, I glued the cardboard collar of the Q bag that came with mine to an Oreck bag (found a whole package at the thrift shop for a couple bucks) and it has worked fine. I have since ordered the real bags, but a pack of 3 was insanely expensive, so I'm not going to use them until the bag check light comes on.

I'd say for quality of construction and ease of use to go for the Platinum... it just feels more solid and sounds much better.

The Self-propelled Windtunnel has fun "Christmasy" dirt sensor lights though :o)

Tough decision indeed!

By the way, I quite agree with Bagintheback... people make too big a deal out of fan first machines with plastic fans... Oreck and Kirby and Sanitaire all have plastic fans and many people use them without issue daily. Especially you, because you obviously like vacuums and know something about them (or you wouldn't be here), so you will be more careful than someone who doesn't understand them... you don't be sucking up pennies and BBs and nails...


Post# 194480 , Reply# 11   8/12/2012 at 19:41 (2,792 days old) by director12 ()        

Well, I'd get a Windtunnel canister from the 90's. But I'd stock up on a Tristar, Miele, or a Bissell from Korea or USA.

Post# 194487 , Reply# 12   8/12/2012 at 19:50 (2,792 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

Vacuumfreeeke, I would get the platinum handheld with the lightweight because of the fact that it looks good next to it. Also, does the anniversary handle like a Kirby, or is it a little easier?

Post# 194496 , Reply# 13   8/12/2012 at 22:18 (2,792 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke ()        

The transmission is more jerky in the Hoover than it would be in a Kirby... not nearly as smooth, but it feels "more" self propelled if that makes any sense.

Post# 194501 , Reply# 14   8/12/2012 at 22:33 (2,792 days old) by vacu-finder ()        

"BUT, I HATE, HATE, HATE the handle release on th wrong side. Since time began, it was ALWAYS on the left. "

John.......ya makes you wonder why they decided to change sides, Did hoover do a customer satisfaction promo at one time with that question on it..?


Post# 194506 , Reply# 15   8/12/2012 at 22:44 (2,792 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

Alright. I think I am now sold on the platinum collection because of the center dirt path, chevron brush roll, and direct air system. Plus the style and uniformity of all three of the units looking great together. I will also buy the corded canister that is bundled with the upright for above floor cleaning. Again guys thank you so much for your advice. John, I can see how the handle release would frustrate you and it will to me as well. After ten years of our windtunnel supreme I am sure to mistake it several times.

Post# 194509 , Reply# 16   8/12/2012 at 22:54 (2,792 days old) by DURANGO159 (State College, PA)        
Why a stick vac??

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I'm confused about your desire for a stick vac style vacuum for the basement. It's low pile carpet but if you're doing a large area then get a full size corded vac. The Hoover Tempo uprights are about $75. They clean excellent with lots of power and even though it doesn't say it on the machine, the inside agitator cavity is same as as the Windtunnel Supremes. It's a Windtunnel design!!

Or what I would do, since its a basement where attachment usage might be useful, get a power head canister vac for the basement. Panasonic MC-CG902 (pictured), one of the entry level Kenmore canisters- the lime green or orange, or if you can find a good price get online get an Oreck Quest Pro, Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary canister S3670. Other good ones online are the Royal Lexons--SR17(eBay listing link) or SR20. You'll love the easy maneuverability of a thin chrome wand and power head to fit into any tight spaces and under and around things. Use the foot quick release attach on a bare floor tool and hit any surrounding concrete, tile or linoleum floors, then switch to attachment mode and hit any spider webs since spiders seem to like basement moisture.

I've never tried the Platinum or Windtunnel Self Propelled, so I have no suggestions for that except that the Platinum package new, does come with the small compact canister- no wheels on it, you have to carry around on your shoulder or in hand. The Self Propelled Windtunnel without an additional hose, is fairly impossible to use attachments with. It is nice that the Windtunnel Self Propelled can shut the brush roll off for attachment use though

Just my 2 cents! Good luck & happy vacuuming.




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Post# 194569 , Reply# 17   8/13/2012 at 09:06 (2,791 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

The idea behind the kind was so I could zip around our finished basement and pick up a majority of the pet hair, empty the dirt cup and wash the filter and at the end of the day not pay for it. This would save me money on the atrociously expensive platinum bags. Also, I would just get the platinum canister to go with it, but my mom would never stop talking about how it takes up too much space. So I will just get the canister that comes with the upright for above floor cleaning, the linx handheld for the stairs (motorized brushroll, and the stick as a cost saving measure on bags.

Post# 194572 , Reply# 18   8/13/2012 at 09:19 (2,791 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

Not kind, linx. Stupid autocorrect

Post# 194592 , Reply# 19   8/13/2012 at 10:55 (2,791 days old) by FantomLightning (Ohio)        
If...

You're worried about the price of bags and filling them with pet hair why not just buy a bagless upright in the first place?

Post# 194635 , Reply# 20   8/13/2012 at 14:09 (2,791 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

I'd much rather have the lightweight bagged than the cyclonic upright in the platinum collection because the bagged machine just looks better.

Post# 194660 , Reply# 21   8/13/2012 at 16:13 (2,791 days old) by FantomLightning (Ohio)        
I...

Didn't really mean the Platinum Collection. There are a ton of other cyclonic uprights out there.

Post# 194665 , Reply# 22   8/13/2012 at 16:23 (2,791 days old) by director12 ()        

Iona Fantoms count, with the pain of overpaying a Dyson (I want Dyson to close their doors one day).

Post# 194702 , Reply# 23   8/13/2012 at 21:01 (2,791 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

I like bagged machines except for in vacuums like the kind where they would be too small and impractical. I don't want a Dyson, except for the DC41, which is far too expensive and not very many can be had for a low price used on eBay yet. I just don't like bagless machines very much.

Post# 194721 , Reply# 24   8/13/2012 at 22:38 (2,791 days old) by DURANGO159 (State College, PA)        

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Save your money and skip the Linx handheld for steps. The price tag is over $100, and its still a battery powered vac.

Get a Wintunnel T bagless cyclonic. I've heard excellent things about them. Use that as your bagless. Use the portable canister from the Platinum lightweight bagged upright package to use on the steps and that would save you the $100+ price tag of getting the Linx hand vac.

If you get a full size canister vacuum you can use the attachments on that for the steps. The Panasonic MC-CG902 canister has very large capacity bags, and are fairly economical in price. The upholstery nozzle is full sized with bristles. You could also find a Kenmore PowerMate Jr. new or used from numerous sources including eBay. Since the 902 is essentially the same machine as an older Kenmore Progressive, the hoses are the same and it will fit any powermate jr or most turbine powered nozzles on the market as well.

You could also look to bagless canister vacs. I have heard bad things about Hoover's Platinum bagless canister--hose power problems, but good thinks about the red and green standard cyclonic bagless line SH40050 & SH40055. These machines do come standard with a bare floor brush but the power nozzle fitting is a quick disconnect pedal with standard size round end on wand to fit most any friction fit bare floor brush if needed. The newer Windtunnel power nozzle on these machines is very nice.


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Post# 194722 , Reply# 25   8/13/2012 at 22:46 (2,791 days old) by DURANGO159 (State College, PA)        

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Typo-- the Hoover SH40050 &SH40055 do NOT come with bare floor brush.

The pluses to these canisters is that they are bagless--if you like that, and have an excellent power nozzle. The minus is that the upholstery nozzle, dusting tools are very small. Most likely you have an assortment of other upholstery nozzles etc. to use with one of these.

The LG bagless power head canisters look nice and LG is a good brand. However, I have not done the research on the LG's to check consumer ratings and I've never tried one. Does anyone have an opinion or knowledge etc. about the LG Kompressor bagless power nozzle canister vacuum?


Post# 194736 , Reply# 26   8/14/2012 at 00:13 (2,791 days old) by myvacsrock (New York, NY)        
I too..

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would recommend skipping the cordless Linx...in the long run it will not be worth it.
It may not match, but a corded Hoover Flair w/ Power nozzle would be better. I have never used a better stick vacuum with a power nozzle. I LOVE corded stick vacs with brushrolls, and this one is really good....i just wouldn't go cordless.


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Post# 194846 , Reply# 27   8/14/2012 at 15:52 (2,790 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

What about the corded windtunnel stick?

Post# 194927 , Reply# 28   8/14/2012 at 19:43 (2,790 days old) by FantomLightning (Ohio)        
The LG...

Kompressor canister would be great! I loved the thing and with the way the PN edge cleans you'll never need to get out the crevice tool. Just wait for it to come on sale though because its price goes as low as $280. Plus the Kompressor + LG's "vertical cyclones" keeps the filter super clean.

Post# 194928 , Reply# 29   8/14/2012 at 19:46 (2,790 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        
Love my Hoover Platinum

Before I had my rotator (right soulder) surgery and now a year and 1/2 later. I am back to using and needing my Hoover Platinum lite weight. It has great power and grooming results. I love my Kirby's for carpet and hard floor cleaning. They move rather easily, but they are still heavy to carry or move. So the Hoover
Platinum is the best for left handed vacuuming on the short shag carpet in my apt.
Yes, John, you did hear me give praise to a TTI current model Hoover and I do actually use it ! LOL !
Norm


Post# 194935 , Reply# 30   8/14/2012 at 20:24 (2,790 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
That's

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our boy!

John.Wink


Post# 194975 , Reply# 31   8/14/2012 at 22:59 (2,790 days old) by mieles7 (DFW, TX)        

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I have both the flair with power nozzle and the hoover platinum linx stick vac. In my opinion the linx and flair clean about equally, but the linx is more convenient due to the battery lasting long enough for most quick cleanups. I actually made a video of the two a little while ago.

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Post# 195306 , Reply# 32   8/15/2012 at 22:02 (2,789 days old) by dwhdarren97 ()        

I think im going to hunt for a good deal on a new platinum upright on eBay, and buy the corded windtunnel stick as a companion as well as the portable canister for above floor cleaning.




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