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Post# 192584   7/31/2012 at 19:38 (2,809 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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It seems that that most of the major manufactures have updated their bag/filter/belt packaging recently, which I completely understand. Both Hoover and Eureka were using decade old designs and I'm sure others were similar. However, their new designs are so much worse than their last, especially Hoover. They went from attractive blue bags that clearly showed the machine the bags were fit for, to bland white bags. Eureka and DirtDevil bags are about as worse.

To show the significant difference, look at the picture on the right of the bag asile at an Ace Hardware. Most of the Hoover bags are the new design, but they still have some older ones. Notice how the older bags show the model the bag is used for, a nice big Hoover logo, and the bag letter in bold red. The news ones are simply a picture of a white bag and the Hoover logo. The bag type letter is printed in white, which looks much cheaper than before. So much worse in my opinion.

The picture on the left I believe was taken in the late 1990s. These shows even older bag designs, which look even better than the 2000s bags! If you look closely you can even see that the actual Hoover disposable bags have HOOVER printed all of them. The Eureka bags have a clear picture of the model the bag is designed for, plus an attractive font for the bag letter.

So why is it these manufactures keep downgrading their packaging? Is it because there is less demand because of all the bagless models? Is the same thing going on in other countries? I'd love to hear your ideas and comments.





Post# 192585 , Reply# 1   7/31/2012 at 19:51 (2,809 days old) by szymonrules (Philadelphia, PA )        
This may sound....

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crazy but I think it's because companies want people to think that buying bags, belts, etc. is a horrid task and that if they make their packaging look awful to look at and boring, people would than buy a new vacuum.

Post# 192629 , Reply# 2   8/1/2012 at 00:36 (2,808 days old) by ryan1994jeep (Georgia)        
Back in the day....

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When I was little just looking at the vacuum bags would make my day with all their pictures on them. Now who would want to look at that boring marketing scheme!

I agree maybe in some way this would be a way to promote "bagless" vacuums even though I'm not sure the reasoning behind it.

--Ryan Bland (Yes that's really my last name!)




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Post# 192705 , Reply# 3   8/1/2012 at 19:17 (2,808 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Like everything else these days, its a matter of costs. If it costs more to produce fancy photos, branding logos etc than it is to produce a cheaper looking generic bag of dust bags with a smaller logo and not much else, buyers will still buy the bags they require.


Post# 192738 , Reply# 4   8/2/2012 at 03:44 (2,807 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"--Ryan Bland (Yes that's really my last name!)" Funny you should say that, I was just watching Agatha Christie's Poirot last night and there were people with the surname "Bland" in that too.

Post# 192868 , Reply# 5   8/2/2012 at 18:42 (2,807 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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Are the Hoover bags still made with green paper? Are type J bags still available from Hoover, or just aftermarket sources?

Post# 192869 , Reply# 6   8/2/2012 at 18:46 (2,807 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        
fan-of-fans

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I know for sure the regular, non-allergen upright bags are still green, so I would think the canister bags are as well. Here is a link to genuine Hoover J bags.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO bagintheback's LINK


Post# 193461 , Reply# 7   8/6/2012 at 00:40 (2,803 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Nathaniel!

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You are correct. HOOVER had a bewautiful "AD DEPT" that designed all of those great packages. They were made elsewhere, however. You'll notice on those nice blue bags, that they say The HOOVER Company, North Canton, Ohio. The new ones say "Glen Willow", the C bags are now made in China.
I saw the bolt of green paper. I also saw the bolt of white paper..it is the special filteration paper, which comes from The Poconos. TTI wants everything "new" and their own. I saw the finished bags blown into the plastic paakages. One person actually had to open the old packages, and, put the paper bags into the 'new' ones. Think of the silly labor that costs. a SHAME.
John


Post# 193527 , Reply# 8   8/6/2012 at 13:48 (2,803 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
and, as far as last names.....

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mine is LONG. Think about the fun people have had with THAT! When we had to write our last names first... Long John... I got calls for pirates, (Long John Silver) longjohns, (underwear jokes).College Boards. "My last name is Long". I was asked, "Will it fit in the blocks"? Or, "How long is it"? "How do you spell it"? are you kiddingm, I asked. No 'trick vowel' there.

Post# 193531 , Reply# 9   8/6/2012 at 14:27 (2,803 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        
John

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I'm happy to see someone else appreciates artistic packaging! I did hear about the repackaging TTI went through. Taking older packs, which as I've always noticed, proudly displayed a MADE IN USA logo, and put them into TTI packs. I was so disappointed the day I learned that. I always buy up all the old Hoover bags at thrift stores. At least us collectors have our stash.

Post# 193533 , Reply# 10   8/6/2012 at 14:47 (2,803 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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The canister Hoover S bags used to be green, now they're white. Much cheaper quality from the green ones. They're terrible. I'm now using generic vacuum bags for my Hoover PowerMax canisters. The Hoover S HEPA bags are $11 for a 2 pack-- are you kidding me???

Post# 193595 , Reply# 11   8/6/2012 at 17:17 (2,803 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Here's a little assortment.

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It shows a history timeline, sort of, through the decades.

Post# 193953 , Reply# 12   8/8/2012 at 22:24 (2,801 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
How about this!!???

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Now THIS is a display.





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