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Post# 183077   5/29/2012 at 12:46 (2,918 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

this ones for chris aka Turbo500 because he asked me to start a thread about my vintage sebo's so here it is :) i've put a link on that goes straight to my videos on youtube so you can see them in action

First up in my Sebo 350, this was the original Sebo vacuum originally from 1978. It was the first commercial vacuum to have an onboard hose attached and a clutch controlled brushroll. They were originally sold through commercial cleaning equipment suppliers such as Jeyes Hygiene, Initial and Lorito. Sebo was first introduced in 1979 under the Windsor name. The 350 was the model that earned Sebo it's reputation for reliability and user friendliness.




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Post# 183078 , Reply# 1   5/29/2012 at 12:50 (2,918 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

next up, the 360 Electronic, this one came in 1986 and was the first to feature the brush control display. This is a lovely vacuum and still in production virtually unchanged as the BS36/Windsormatic models. Again, nicely built, superbly reliable and great performance.

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Post# 183079 , Reply# 2   5/29/2012 at 12:54 (2,918 days old) by ryry_87 ()        
group pic..

The whole family, the orange Ensign 350 and X4 clear belong to my mate richie. I've since got nice new hoses for the 350 and 360

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Post# 183081 , Reply# 3   5/29/2012 at 12:56 (2,918 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

and I'm waiting for this one, on its way from germany. A very rare 1991 X1 in brown and cream. One of the very first. Will post more pics of it when its here and cleaned up :)

Post# 183083 , Reply# 4   5/29/2012 at 13:10 (2,917 days old) by hoovermanmick ()        

very nice ryan seen a blue sebo on gumtree 15 pound

Post# 183087 , Reply# 5   5/29/2012 at 14:07 (2,917 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The sebo 350 was sold in SA in Orange and white like the one in your photo. I have the brown 370 , nice collection 


Post# 183091 , Reply# 6   5/29/2012 at 14:15 (2,917 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

i've actually never seen a 370 in this country, I think they are available but most companies seem to go for the BS36 model instead

Post# 183096 , Reply# 7   5/29/2012 at 14:34 (2,917 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Great thread here Ry!
I always thought the 360 was launched in '79, hence why the 350's were so rare?


Post# 183099 , Reply# 8   5/29/2012 at 14:39 (2,917 days old) by ned_flanders ()        

I like your video where you're dressed to match the orange colors :)

Post# 183108 , Reply# 9   5/29/2012 at 14:55 (2,917 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

thanks jeff lol it wasn't intentional! according to the sebo history site chris it came in 86'

Post# 183110 , Reply# 10   5/29/2012 at 14:58 (2,917 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

german sebo history

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Post# 183113 , Reply# 11   5/29/2012 at 15:02 (2,917 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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ryry , sorry , I do have a 370 but its grey , I meant the 460 the wider version of the 360. I also have a 460 badged as a sebo but in the Windsor blue colours of the US 


Post# 183116 , Reply# 12   5/29/2012 at 15:06 (2,917 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

ah that makes sense :)

Post# 183148 , Reply# 13   5/29/2012 at 16:00 (2,917 days old) by funvacfan (Canada)        
Hey there...

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I love the orange one!

Post# 183164 , Reply# 14   5/29/2012 at 16:19 (2,917 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

thats the Jeyes Ensign 350 :) i must admit thats my favourite colour scheme too

Post# 183166 , Reply# 15   5/29/2012 at 16:21 (2,917 days old) by ryry_87 ()        
Jeyes Hygiene Ensign 350

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Post# 183230 , Reply# 16   5/29/2012 at 22:51 (2,917 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Why change what works

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They really have not changed much over the years but if there is no need to why bother they hold up to commercial use extremely well i know at the school i had a summer position at the versamatics held up much better than the Flexamatics.
It's kind of strange to see them in orange and brown i've only ever seen blue in person, you have a nice lil' collection of em Ryan


Post# 183233 , Reply# 17   5/29/2012 at 23:51 (2,917 days old) by BriGuy (Wichita, Kansas)        

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Ryan, I really like your collection of Sebo's!! Thanks for sharing with us. I have used the Windsor Versamatic blue version in the past & thought it was a fine vac. I enjoy seeing all the versions you have collected.

Post# 183248 , Reply# 18   5/30/2012 at 05:44 (2,917 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

Thanks for your kind comments guys, I agree, why change something that works! the current commercial models are almost identical to those 20+ years ago. It always amazes me though how much the colour schemes change between different countries , I think in US they're pretty much always blue? whereas in the UK we've had everything from orange, brown, red, cream, blue and grey. Usually depending on what company supplies them

Post# 183601 , Reply# 19   6/1/2012 at 14:10 (2,914 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

My early X1 Automatic arrived today :D it's in pretty good condition, hasn't been used for years though, was full of cobwebs

Post# 183635 , Reply# 20   6/1/2012 at 15:32 (2,914 days old) by baglessball ()        
ryry_87

What do you use to clean your machines?

I really like that clear sebo. If you ever feel like lifting it when your friends back is turned and posting it to someone. Let me know! Haha


Post# 183639 , Reply# 21   6/1/2012 at 15:53 (2,914 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

haha I'll bear that in mind after i've finished playing with it, I usually use Flash surface cleaner to get the worst off, then i'll use Cif cream cleaner to get any really ingrained marks out then I detail them with a good silicon polish.

Post# 183644 , Reply# 22   6/1/2012 at 16:17 (2,914 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Ooh I love them all !!


Post# 183646 , Reply# 23   6/1/2012 at 16:19 (2,914 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

I must admit I think the brown X1 is my fav, wanted one of these for years. Its so cool and retro looking.

Post# 183647 , Reply# 24   6/1/2012 at 16:22 (2,914 days old) by ryry_87 ()        
all the brown ones together :)

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Post# 183662 , Reply# 25   6/1/2012 at 17:12 (2,914 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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a customer traded in this today , great timing I reckon, Love the way it says sebo on the hood and sorma on the bag door


Post# 183667 , Reply# 26   6/1/2012 at 17:42 (2,914 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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 I did have a Sebo 350 TVE, many many years ago. Sold it to a nearby school who still have it!


Post# 183676 , Reply# 27   6/1/2012 at 18:05 (2,914 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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UM thats not a sebo , thats a IVAC , wow never realised sebo would badge a ivac as there own product I knew iwas badged as a wetrok and oreck as well as many other names including there in house brand fast. they are made in the Netherlands 


Post# 183678 , Reply# 28   6/1/2012 at 18:08 (2,914 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well there you go - as I say I had it many many years ago - just goes to show what you learn every day! Ty for clarifying that, gsheen. It was one of the first machines I collected, rescued from a hotel that went bust and the owner gave me tons of commercial grade kitchen ware as well!


Post# 183680 , Reply# 29   6/1/2012 at 18:11 (2,914 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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what I can't understand is why badge another company's machine as your own when you have a good product of your own. The ivac is good it is but its not as well made as the sebo , it does however cost a 3rd the price of the sebo and will last about the same time 


Post# 183685 , Reply# 30   6/1/2012 at 18:25 (2,914 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The thing is gsheen, and I know you know a lot about IVAC machines, but I was led to believe very early on that IVAC were just a trader supplier company who dealt with other brands. I know we talked about this before - is there a history link online to provide the time line dates of IVAC's existence?

 

Through my job as a commercial cleaner, I've seen rebranded IVAC machines before as well as the SEBO that was given to me. If IVAC are using SEBO machines, it would stand to reason to why SEBO would go into a market at a time when they didn't have much of a market in certain countries. I notice a lot of commercial brands tend to do this with a lot of their products, especially bigger ride on machines and those Tennant double handle bar big box uprights.


Post# 183687 , Reply# 31   6/1/2012 at 18:35 (2,914 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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Hello!
I'm very fond of Sebo commercial upright cleaers and I own several of them. I have to find the pictures but I just want to say that here in my flat in Milan a Sebo /Sorma 365 has been in ue for many years and everybody is happy with it. I loved the tm 455 that I used some years ago in a larger flat with much larger carpeted areas. I'll take pictures of my Seboes soon and will share them with you!
tommy


Post# 183693 , Reply# 32   6/1/2012 at 18:57 (2,914 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Gary I must suggest that the Sebo 350 in the picture may well not be an IVAC, but an older style of Nilco / Fakir cleaner on which I do believe the Fast cleaner in your picture is based. But please, correct me if I am wrong.

The reason I am saying this is because the on that Sebo there, the mains lead is hardwired into the top of the cleaner. It also has a bent hose handle. You can also see that the lead to the power head is on the back of the cleaner (not the side like on the Fast). All of these points I raise are characteristic of the Nilco cleaners from the 1990's. The only thing which differs on that Sebo is the power head, as this style was not seen on Nilco cleaners here in the UK. I am wondering if this cleaner is a Nilco / Fakir, with a power head designed specifically for Sebo and / or other companies?

Like you, I can't imagine Sebo would have gone down the route of putting their name on a cleaner which was in effect a lesser copy of a popular cleaner.


Post# 183709 , Reply# 33   6/1/2012 at 22:43 (2,914 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
WOW!

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That is one 'ORANGE" cleaner!I'm showing my ignorance here, (let's call it curiosity), What is Gumtree? amazing how some things areso similar and so different between the U.S and the U.K.

Post# 183753 , Reply# 34   6/2/2012 at 02:29 (2,914 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I think you guys call it kijiji in the states, its like craigs list 


Post# 183754 , Reply# 35   6/2/2012 at 02:35 (2,914 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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@ vintage repairer Ivac used to manufacture machines for Nilco too.

 

@ sebo fan Yes Ivac used to be a trade manufacturer, I have seen those things badged as everything from a Nilco, electrolux , oreck samsung , dry rug , columbus , wap, wetrock to name a few, 

 

With Ivac if you have a big enough cleaning company they will even make it for you in your company colours. 

 

Then they launched there own in house brand , Fast .

 

As for tennant  I love those big handle bar units, when you were in commercial cleaning did you ever come across advance machines, like the carpetwin16 


Post# 183769 , Reply# 36   6/2/2012 at 06:16 (2,914 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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OMG. The Carpetwin 16! YES... I never got a chance to use them, but I certainly saw a few of them when I worked in a lot of the massive offices in London. However, I got to use a commercial stick vacuum that I recall posting a thread response on here before, (www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...) which I got the chance to find and use at another place last year. I thought it was Italian because it came with Italian branded bags, the user manual was Italian but the name wasn't Italian sounding. It had a very similar floor head to the Carpetwin 16, but a flat head instead of the raised motor hood. It was very unusual looking, could have been a "Tornado" vacuum, but I'm still not sure! The old grey cells can't remember names sometimes - I go by visuals! Anyway, it was the biggest "stick" vacuum I had ever seen, the handle being taller than anything I've used - evidently because of the way the machine swivelled with its 14" floor head and its general design, it was clearly something made along the same lines of the Carpetwin 16 but lacked any additional functions on the floor head other than basic power.


Post# 183774 , Reply# 37   6/2/2012 at 06:50 (2,914 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Some were I have a carpetwin 18, its a huge machine and I can't see any use for it than massive passage ways or carpeted halls , I must admit they bring back fond memory's as a child as all the banks and large retailers around here had them , My dad would always take me to find them on saturday mornings to play around, I have a  Great DAD 

 

Here is a link to the original 16 in red and white 



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Post# 183775 , Reply# 38   6/2/2012 at 07:06 (2,914 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I can't seem to get that link to work, sadly.


Post# 183781 , Reply# 39   6/2/2012 at 07:35 (2,914 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

that advanced thing? i've seen them before but didn't know we had them in this country?

Post# 255255 , Reply# 40   11/5/2013 at 07:01 (2,393 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
BUMPED!

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Since the recent influx of Sebo interest, I've bumped this one back up for anyone who missed it.

Post# 255257 , Reply# 41   11/5/2013 at 08:32 (2,393 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Great thread! Really nice Sebo's Ryan. :)

Post# 255345 , Reply# 42   11/5/2013 at 17:38 (2,392 days old) by DaveTranter (Central England, U.K.)        
Thanks, Turbo500

This thread was before my time here.... I have a friend who has recently acquired a Sebo... Not sure what model yet, but will post a picture asap.

Thanks

Dave T


Post# 255362 , Reply# 43   11/6/2013 at 02:58 (2,392 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I think the cream and brown X1 is my favorite too. 

I've been wanting a Sebo for ages, but I can't afford one. Frown

I just hoping a faulty one pops up on ebay cheap. But until then, I'll have to stick with my Lindhaus.


Post# 255364 , Reply# 44   11/6/2013 at 03:02 (2,392 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
I have a friend who has recently acquired a Sebo

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Your friend made an excellent choice ;)

Post# 255371 , Reply# 45   11/6/2013 at 03:40 (2,392 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Plenty of the old X1's come up on EBAY UK.

There's a good condition one at the moment going: 380759258599


Post# 255376 , Reply# 46   11/6/2013 at 06:19 (2,392 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I'm actually currently watching that one, if it goes for under £50, I might go for it.


Post# 255378 , Reply# 47   11/6/2013 at 07:51 (2,392 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
I've been wanting a Sebo for ages, but I can't affor

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Save up!! :)

I'm currently (trying) to save up for a D4 Premium with the DISCO floor polisher.




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Post# 255398 , Reply# 48   11/6/2013 at 13:56 (2,391 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Chris, if you have a Felix already, may as well just buy the polisher head on its own.

Post# 255399 , Reply# 49   11/6/2013 at 13:58 (2,391 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Ultimate - generally second hand SEBO X1's go for 65 to 100 dependent on the condition. You might be lucky with this one though.

Post# 255413 , Reply# 50   11/6/2013 at 17:02 (2,391 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Ryan, I don't own a Felix. Mother does.

Post# 255715 , Reply# 51   11/9/2013 at 10:52 (2,389 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Ah. Well Im not a fan of SEBO's electric hose - i had several problems over the years with the K3 Premium and SEBO are well aware of it. I've trialled the D4 some time ago at a John Lewis store who got one in for a buyer and well it is good but the hose on it isn't to my liking. The hose without the electrics added is long enough on the standard "suction only" D2 models, and that's enough for me.

The Felix however is a far lighter machine to use and far more compact even though you still get a long cord, it isn't as long as the D series and of course a smaller dust bag capacity. I'd only consider getting the Disco head if I had more hard flooring in the home.





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