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Post# 170001   2/18/2012 at 13:27 (2,973 days old) by juniorsenior ()        

Hi i just wanted peoples opinion on what is the best all round upright Dyson.
Thanks
Mark





Post# 170007 , Reply# 1   2/18/2012 at 14:45 (2,973 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

DC07

Post# 170008 , Reply# 2   2/18/2012 at 15:08 (2,973 days old) by jakesvacs ()        

Having owned and tried most dysons avalible, I will say the early dysons are best ones.
Easy to work on, perform well, cant go wrong!
The dyson dc04 is quiet and performs well, but the dc07 (especially non clutched versions) have absolute sheer power!


Post# 170009 , Reply# 3   2/18/2012 at 15:34 (2,973 days old) by vacman117 (Valparaiso, IN)        

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From what I own and have used, I would say the DC17 Absolute. I have a DC28 but I am really not impressed with it. I still want to try out the DC41, it looks like it would actually clean nicely.

Post# 170079 , Reply# 4   2/19/2012 at 05:06 (2,972 days old) by juniorsenior ()        

Does anyone rate the DC24 it seems to be quite popular? I have owned a DC01/DC04/DC16/DC31 in my time and have no real complaints.


Post# 170080 , Reply# 5   2/19/2012 at 05:13 (2,972 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

I have used one. I can't quite believe it is a real cleaner and not a toy. It never felt to me like it was doing much in the way of cleaning.

Post# 170081 , Reply# 6   2/19/2012 at 05:48 (2,972 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi, I I'm not the biggest Dyson fan but out of all the models I've had/sold/worked on I'd say the Dc04 or Dc14 in uprights Dc08 or DC19t2 in cylinder...Never liked the DC11. I had a demo of the DC41,DC40,DC39 at one of my suppliers a few weeks ago.
Ummm I think I'll say not my cup of tea;o)

James:o)


Post# 170084 , Reply# 7   2/19/2012 at 06:36 (2,972 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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My favourites were the DC01 and DC04 - non-clutch version. Last one I used was the DC07 which was fantastic, but ever-so-bulky.

Post# 170086 , Reply# 8   2/19/2012 at 07:46 (2,972 days old) by jakesvacs ()        

I absolutely hate the Dyson Dc14, worst one ever! Dont ask just agree hehe!

The Dc24 is also quite bad, they are very problematic, and do not perform well at all! I have the normal yellow one, its bearings are awful and it reeks of burnt rubber every time i use it! The suction is not worth evan bothering unclipping the lead for. The dc03 is much better in over all. I can post some pictures of my dyson collection if you lot so wish!


Post# 170087 , Reply# 9   2/19/2012 at 07:57 (2,972 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Considering that the DC14 was a lot like the DC07, I have no idea why I too don't like the DC14. I have used both. My own cleaner is a DC07 purple/blue.

Post# 170089 , Reply# 10   2/19/2012 at 08:15 (2,972 days old) by hoovermanmick ()        

i say dco7/dc14 non clutch and dc08 dont like non of the new dysons

Post# 170090 , Reply# 11   2/19/2012 at 08:33 (2,972 days old) by juniorsenior ()        

Please post your Dyson collection Jake.


Post# 170094 , Reply# 12   2/19/2012 at 09:39 (2,972 days old) by jakesvacs ()        
Dyson Dc01 De stijl

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Post# 170096 , Reply# 13   2/19/2012 at 09:50 (2,972 days old) by jakesvacs ()        

I will take some better pictures of each vacuum but thats my Dc01 de stijl, next to it under the stand is the Dc02 de stijl, on top is the Dc07 standard, and to the other side of the Dc01 is my Dc03 absolute zorb.

Post# 170097 , Reply# 14   2/19/2012 at 09:58 (2,972 days old) by jakesvacs ()        

And of course thats not all!
I have;
Dc01 blue
Dc01 de stijl
Dc02 de stijl
Dc03 absolute plus zorb
Dc04 de stijl
Dc07 Standard
Dc16 standard
Dc20 allergy plus turbohead
Dc24 Stanard
Wanted;
Dc05
Dc07 with clutch
Dc04 without clutch
Dc01 standard
Dc01 absolute (hoapfully getting my great grans)
Dc27
Dc40


Post# 170099 , Reply# 15   2/19/2012 at 10:18 (2,972 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

i had no idea that there was a DC03 Purple / Lime.


Post# 170100 , Reply# 16   2/19/2012 at 10:19 (2,972 days old) by Sanifan ()        
clutch, non-clutch?

You guys seem to lean towards the non-clutch Dysons. Is there any way to tell just by looking at the outside of the vacuum or at a picture? Why is non-clutch better?

Post# 170102 , Reply# 17   2/19/2012 at 10:28 (2,972 days old) by juniorsenior ()        

The clutched models usualy have a knob on the left hand side (if you are looking at the cleaner from the front) which if turned engages or disengages the brushroll.

Post# 170106 , Reply# 18   2/19/2012 at 10:33 (2,972 days old) by jakesvacs ()        

A non clutch has a dip where the clutch would be, as can been seen in my picture!

Post# 170124 , Reply# 19   2/19/2012 at 13:44 (2,972 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Some people consider none-clutch cleaners to be less problematic. True, some machines have suffered with issues, but the Dyson has by far been the one brand of cleaner on the UK market to consistently use a clutch system. I have known very few problems with theirs.

The only thing I have against the Dyson clutch is that the belts are a nightmare to change. Dyson says the belts are designed to never need replacing. Well certainly I don't recall seeing one with a broken belt, but stretched belts I saw many of.


Post# 170126 , Reply# 20   2/19/2012 at 14:08 (2,972 days old) by baglessball ()        

What I have never understood is that if the clutch protects the belts, why not use toothed belts?

Also non clutch machines have 3 rows of bristles in a better pattern than the clutched, 2row helix brush.

DC07 non clutch (with seals in the sole plate) are one of my favourites. Early models of DC04 (the later ones cleaner heads are designed to leak a small amount of air in to stop the cleaner sticking) the first DC01's with fixed sole plates.

I havnt been overly keen on the cylinders. I do like and use a dc19 t2 (short hose is a pain for high cleaning) I own the dc41 and the cleaning is phenonamal. Although I do have plans to order the USA brush roll when it becomes available. As far as longetivity, I am questioning it - but they do use high quaity plastics so time will tell!


Post# 170127 , Reply# 21   2/19/2012 at 14:15 (2,972 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Well one of the Dyson belts is toothed. I have no idea why the other isn't, unless it is in case the clutch gets stuck?

Post# 170140 , Reply# 22   2/19/2012 at 16:40 (2,971 days old) by baglessball ()        

What model is that on? I havnt seen a toothed one.

When they were first brought out they claimed the clutch was there to protect the belts. That it would disengage the belts and make a rachet noise. That noise makes me jump!


Post# 170142 , Reply# 23   2/19/2012 at 16:52 (2,971 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Ignore that, I am so terribly sorry, I was getting mixed up with the old Hoover Turbomaster. I did so few belt changes on Dysons. I was thinking there was a toothed part of the clutch or something. Sorry.

Post# 170144 , Reply# 24   2/19/2012 at 17:39 (2,971 days old) by baglessball ()        

It's quite alright, these things do happen! :D

Post# 170145 , Reply# 25   2/19/2012 at 17:43 (2,971 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Was there not a toothed section on the clutch though?


Post# 170149 , Reply# 26   2/19/2012 at 17:58 (2,971 days old) by baglessball ()        

Not on the belts or pulleys, but there are quite a few (I don't know what they are called so im going to say) washers that that all sit together and are toothed on outside?

Post# 170153 , Reply# 27   2/19/2012 at 18:34 (2,971 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The clutch versions could not be repaired by the owner - originally. There was a special tool you needed that would take off the sections to gain entry into the toothed belt. I always steered clear of the "green" DC04 that had the Brush Control added.

Post# 170161 , Reply# 28   2/19/2012 at 20:24 (2,971 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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I love my DC-14, it the easiest upright I have ever used completely to clean my house. This is coming from an ex-dyson hater by the way. The DC-14 is the only clean air upright I have ever used to lift up area rugs. The hose is so long I can set it at the end of my stairs and clean ever single step. The dusting brush is great, and the dust cup is very easy to empty. It provides the most suction and airflow out of my 50ft central vac hose than any other vacuum I own.

Is it the best deep cleaner? No, even my Bissell Cleanveiw does better. But it is an extremely well designed vacuum and I've been using it as my main cleaner since I bought it in September.


Post# 170195 , Reply# 29   2/20/2012 at 03:55 (2,971 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Hi Sebo fan, which DC04 in green do you speak of? Only none of the DC04 range had clutches added - they all had them - but after a short while Dyson bought out a Dyson in grey & green which had the clutch removed. Well, what I mean is, it never had a clutch. You are right that certain tools were needed to change the belts on the clutch models (not to mention time) but the tools were not exclusive; just a few screwdrivers and star-heads, and a set of circlip pliers. Probably not the sort of thing your average Joe would own, but nothing out of the ordinary really.

Post# 170218 , Reply# 30   2/20/2012 at 12:01 (2,971 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Hi,

I have had 2 Dyson DC03's with clutch problems. The first one has a problem with the knob jumping from the off to on position after a few months. Dyson changed the clutch on this machine due to this issue. I noticed that over time the belts became stretched as when I vacuumed a thick rug the brush would slow right down and stop occasionally but not ratchet noise. I had another DC03 which had a slipping clutch on it so Dyson picked it up and changed the clutch on this and when it came back, the clutch would just randomly make the ratchet sound and also when releasing the machine from upright to reclined the ratchet would sound for around 2 - 3 seconds. Dyson changed it again and luckily it was fine after that but the ratchet alert stopped after 2 years or so, I guess down to streched belts. I also noticed fine dust & hair would make its way into the belt and pulley area so this probably didn't help.

I purchased a DC04 which had a 'noisy clutch' when it was vacuuming so I called Dyson 1 month later and they came out and replaced the clutch, this was back in 2002. The DC04 lasted until 2009. The clutch worked fine but the belts became stretched as whenever I got the brush jammed, the ratchet noise would no longer come on so I had to be alert and remove the obstruction quickly.

I now have a DC24 which I have had for over 2 years and its much more substantial with its toothed belt system. I have not had a problem with it apart from the wand plastic breaking, Dyson changed this free of charge. I find the cleaning performance to be good on carpet and hard floor but the hose suction is a little weak but I get on well with it and its more than adequate for stair and cleaning bed etc. If I need to do the car then I just use my Sebo Felix for that.


Post# 170294 , Reply# 31   2/20/2012 at 20:13 (2,970 days old) by queeny77 (berwyn,IL)        

the best dyson is the two motor dc28 with the cogged belt or toothed belt,it also has a better brushroll

Post# 170295 , Reply# 32   2/20/2012 at 20:26 (2,970 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Maybe Im getting confused VR - the DC04 I had definately had a Brush control on it and was a pain in the neck to use. Im pretty sure it was green and grey/silver as opposed to the yellow and grey/silver.

Post# 170331 , Reply# 33   2/21/2012 at 03:11 (2,970 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Hi Sebo fan. The green / silver DC04 had no brush control. The green / purple did. The yellow / grey has always been Dysons base model of course, and indeed it was with the DC04, until Dyson decided to bring out a non-clutch version a good while after the yellow / grey had gone on sale.

Post# 170337 , Reply# 34   2/21/2012 at 06:36 (2,970 days old) by baglessball ()        

I was thinking green/purple as they were really popular. Still havnt ever seen a toothed belt for one, any photo's would be massively apreciated!

I have never changed clutch belts, I've always just used a new clutch. Apart from a DC03 I had in for repair YEARS ago. The motor to clutch belt had snapped. So it was replaced with a lux 500 series belt which did the trick!


Post# 170364 , Reply# 35   2/21/2012 at 14:22 (2,970 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

The toothed belt was a mistake on my part! Like you, I have little experience of changing clutched belts. I was getting mixed up with the Turbomaster belt.


Post# 170366 , Reply# 36   2/21/2012 at 14:34 (2,970 days old) by baglessball ()        

Sorry vintagerepairer, sebo_fan had also said he had seen a toothed belt?

Post# 170368 , Reply# 37   2/21/2012 at 15:11 (2,970 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

oh sorry too ! i must have missed that :)


Post# 170376 , Reply# 38   2/21/2012 at 16:17 (2,969 days old) by baglessball ()        

Not to worry! :D

Post# 170615 , Reply# 39   2/23/2012 at 10:47 (2,968 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The new dc 40 smaller than the dc41 but otherwise identical

Post# 170620 , Reply# 40   2/23/2012 at 12:49 (2,968 days old) by jakesvacs ()        

I was not sure about the new dyson dc40 and dc41. But i absolutley love the Dc40. Its a good size for UK homes and performs really well!

Post# 170647 , Reply# 41   2/23/2012 at 16:53 (2,967 days old) by baglessball ()        

See, I have the 41, but have seen the 40. The 40's bristles are a lot stiffer! I was a little annoyed.. I was hoping with this model we would get the same style brush as USA, but we didn't :/

Post# 170721 , Reply# 42   2/24/2012 at 04:15 (2,967 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Maybe I got confused too - both about the colour and the toothed belt - I know for certain that I've had arguments with Dyson customer services because they assured me that I wouldn't be able to repair my GREY AND PURPLE (THEN!) Brush Control upright. It was so long ago really - we're talking a VERY long time.

VR - our local serviceman in our small little Scottish town is useless - they dont even have the tools you speak of - so any Dyson owner in the town has to send their vacuum away to get fixed. We had a great Hoover engineer for many years but the cost of vacuums at the supermarket effectively got rid of his business - admittedly some of the machines he sold were higher priced than anything else - but his repairs were 100% excellent. Once he went belly up, and I didn't take an interest in collecting vacuums until late on in my life, my family had already decided to go with Sebo for the fact that very little repair is required.





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