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Post# 157688   11/1/2011 at 01:21 (4,498 days old) by em-tor64 ()        

Hi all- I have not been on here in quite a while.
I see a lot of new names and some familiar ones too...I hope everyone is doing well.
Love the changes to the website, looks great! :)

Now for my questions.....My Aunt has a self-propelled Eureka model# - 5047 E with a VGII.
One of the rear wheels has broken. Can you replace the wheel? On the Hesco web site, it looks as though you have to replace the whole rear axle with wheels and drive gear ( all one unit )But of course it is no longer available and I haven't had any luck on the internet.....anyone know how this could be repaired? My Aunt is in her 80s and really likes this vacuum...especially because of the self-propelled feature. I enjoy using it too, when I help her out around her house. Any help with this would be very much appreciated.

One more question...It has been so long since I worked on a Eureka ( F&G Style)...to loosen the belt pulley, do you turn it counter clock wise or clock wise....I can't remember....I know sometimes they are difficult to loosen, but I want to make sure I am going in the right direction. :)

Thanks,
Michael


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Post# 157700 , Reply# 1   11/1/2011 at 06:31 (4,498 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Michael, Im not quite sure about the wheel, since I have never owned a self propelled, but I do know that in order to loosen the belt pulley on the fan, you hold the fan blade and turn the pulley counter clockwise.

Hope this helps,
Daniel


Post# 157776 , Reply# 2   11/1/2011 at 23:14 (4,497 days old) by em-tor64 ()        

Thanks for the help Daniel....I appreciate it.

Hope someone can help with the broken wheel problem....anyone? :)


Post# 157793 , Reply# 3   11/2/2011 at 11:53 (4,497 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        
Broken Rear Wheel on Eureka Self Propelled

My be a shot or first thought is that you'd have to find a vac shop who has maybe salvaged the rear axel or the whole self propelled unit. Maybe someone out in vacuumland has one and will let you know. Worse case, is finding the whole vacuum on Ebay or Craiglist locally. As many as we sold here out of the Columbus, Oh. branch and as big as Sales were in Dayton and Cinc. when those machines first came out. Having been a Eureka Retail Rep back in the late 70's/early 80's. I would think, that a repair shop in Cinc. that has been open forever. Might be able to help you !
Another thought is Fusneckers Vac stores in Dayton area (3 or more back in the day)
might be able to help out ! If you want to talk more, write me an email at normvac@yahoo.com
Norm


Post# 157798 , Reply# 4   11/2/2011 at 14:25 (4,497 days old) by centralvacs1928 (Chicagoland)        

Hi Michael,

Though you're not supposed to be able to replace the rear wheels separately of the axle/gear assembly, I've done it several times.

First, get two of the regular narrow rear wheels that fit most older Eureka uprights (not the wider ones like Sanitaire uprights use). These narrow, gray colored wheels are really inexpensive and are the right diameter and shaft size, but they're a little too thick at the center when you compare them with the old wheels. What I do is hold one upright against the bench (you could clamp it in a vise too, I suppose) and use a hacksaw to remove the built-up inner "spider-hub" portion, almost like cutting the top off a potato.

You'll now need to get the old wheels off. I usually remove the gear-axle with the old broken wheels, put it in a vise, and use channel-locks (or a hammer) to break the wheels off the shaft. Out of necessity, they're on there pretty good.

Now you can install the new wheels by pressing them onto the shaft. I'll usually use some kind of adhesive on the shaft (JB Weld works great) just to keep the shaft from spinning and rounding out the hubs. The new wheels lack the rubber tires that the old wheels had, but certainly it's a lot better than having one that's cracked in half and causing the vacuum to go thump-thump-thump over the carpet.

Hope this helps!

Owen


Post# 157799 , Reply# 5   11/2/2011 at 14:44 (4,497 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Owen, Would these be the wheels you're talking about? There are several on ebay.

Daniel


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Post# 157962 , Reply# 6   11/4/2011 at 00:29 (4,495 days old) by em-tor64 ()        

Thanks for the feedback everyone.....

Norm- I am checking with some local shops...the first one I called said they couldn't find any reference for a Eureka Model# 5047...and this was an authorized Eureka service center that has been around for years! Ok. I have a few more to check with before I venture to Dayton or Cincy.

Owen, thanks so much for the detailed replacement steps....If I can't find the part ( wheels, axle & gear) I will do this with the replacement wheels.



Post# 157963 , Reply# 7   11/4/2011 at 00:36 (4,495 days old) by lunchboxsean ()        

Emtor,

I live in Dayton. We may have to have a little minimeet or something since you're near. Let me check with my guy and see if he has any laying around.


Post# 157964 , Reply# 8   11/4/2011 at 00:44 (4,495 days old) by lunchboxsean ()        

OK check it out. If you look at the Hesco schematic a little closer, you see that though they don't offer the entire axle/gearbox assembly (car guys would call it a differential), they do offer the axle and wheel assembly for about $42. The part number is e-53463 and it's on pg 113 of the schematic, item number 27 on the illustration. All else fails...

Post# 158387 , Reply# 9   11/8/2011 at 00:08 (4,491 days old) by em-tor64 ()        

Hi Sean-

Thanks for checking that out....I did see it on pg 113....but part E-53463 is discontinued...hesco no longer has it in stock. :(

I was out of town this weekend....just now read your post.

Thanks


Post# 158552 , Reply# 10   11/10/2011 at 07:09 (4,489 days old) by massagemiracle ()        

check out this site for your wheels or any other parts. Where its been discontinued on other sites they seem to have them.

Ultimate Sew and Vac



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Post# 158830 , Reply# 11   11/12/2011 at 23:26 (4,486 days old) by thissucks ()        

NEVER EVER JB weld ANYTHING!!! especially a wear or maintnence item.

use RTV black silicone, it will keep parts from moving around, however the wheel can be removed if needed.

RTV is rubbery and resiliant perfect if you just need to keep tolerances down.




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