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Post# 157579   10/30/2011 at 23:58 (4,554 days old) by sfcoronet (San Francisco - Bay Area)        

Just out of curiosity, I went by the dumpster in the back of the vacuum shop close to my house and, sure enough, there were a couple of handles sticking out of the top. I looked in and found two Hoovers, one more modern looking one (bag hidden in a hard plastic case) and an Industrial Upright (model C1067). I thought it might be fun to take it home, figure out what was wrong with it, and maybe take it apart for kicks. when I got home I plugged it in and turned the switch on and nothing happened. I tested the cord, found out that it didn't have continuity, cut a chunk of bad cord out and frankensteined it back together and it fired right up! Then I cleaned it up a little. Pretty satisfying. Anyone have any idea of the year of this one (it's got a "shag" setting) and a good source for a replacement cord (it's the kind that has a plastic, two-pronged connector halfway down the handle). It'll be hard for me to drive by that store without checking the dumpster from now on...

Post# 157580 , Reply# 1   10/31/2011 at 00:03 (4,554 days old) by sfcoronet (San Francisco - Bay Area)        

Also need the "HOOVER" decal. The one that was on there was mostly rubbed off so I polished the rest of it away to give it a nice clean look. I put a new belt on it too. It doesn't say anywhere what type of bags it takes, but there's an A bag in it.

Post# 157590 , Reply# 2   10/31/2011 at 08:45 (4,554 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Fantastic

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find!!
Post# 157596 , Reply# 3   10/31/2011 at 10:13 (4,554 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        

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The bag on it is mostlikely a replacement. This model probably had the dust cup, most commercial Hoovers of this vintage did. That is probably why theres no bag type on the model plate.

I just finished refubishing my friends vacuum.It is the same except it has a headlight, hers was dated May 1988.
Post# 157597 , Reply# 4   10/31/2011 at 10:15 (4,554 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        

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Scratch that about the bag being a dust cup. i just realized looking at it again that it has the lower cord hook. Mabe it was a shak-out bag? But I belive it would have been orange.
Post# 157608 , Reply# 5   10/31/2011 at 13:35 (4,554 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

I don't recall any of the industrial uprights having a lower cord hook. We wore out several of them at the various locations we clean.

The machines had several options for dust capture. Disposable bags, Dirt cup or Shake out bag. this one has a domestic cord on it. It should be Orange in color and a 3 wire comercial cord and at least 32 ft.long to 50 ft. long cord.

Post# 157614 , Reply# 6   10/31/2011 at 14:05 (4,554 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

It most likely takes the same bags as the decade 80. Which I believe is the type "A" bag.

Daniel

Post# 157624 , Reply# 7   10/31/2011 at 15:21 (4,554 days old) by sfcoronet (San Francisco - Bay Area)        

the cord that is on there is two wire with a plastic connector in the middle of the handle - I'm looking for a replacement, but they all seem to be at least $15 - Why do my "free" vacuums always end up costing me money?

Post# 157645 , Reply# 8   10/31/2011 at 17:23 (4,554 days old) by twocvbloke ()        
"Why do my "free" vacuums always end up costing

Cos there's no such thing as a free lunch.... ;)

There's a reason why things are free or cheap, it's cos they need money throwing at them... :P

Post# 157674 , Reply# 9   10/31/2011 at 21:58 (4,553 days old) by broomvac (N/A)        

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How about you go back and take the cord off of the other Hoover and hope that it works?

Post# 157684 , Reply# 10   10/31/2011 at 23:25 (4,553 days old) by sfcoronet (San Francisco - Bay Area)        

I thought about taking the cord off the other Hoover - and I may go back and look - but I'm guessing that it was a 3 wire cord rather than a two. I'm not sure if and how I could put a 3 wire cord onto a machine that is supposed to only have 2?

Post# 157708 , Reply# 11   11/1/2011 at 08:48 (4,553 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)        
Why do my "free" vacuums always end up costing me mo

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Just to let you in on a secret. When a vacuum store throws away a vacuum cleaner, its because it is taking up space, and not worth fixing or worth the parts.

At my store, we throw away around 20-30 vacuums weekly. The cords are cut and they are trashed. These "free" gems people find in dumpsters at vacuum stores are just trash that real vacuum repairmen find are not worth spending the money to fix.

Post# 157738 , Reply# 12   11/1/2011 at 14:55 (4,553 days old) by kittingerhoover ()        
This Hoover...

 Is a mid 80's commercial machine based off of the Decade 80 platform. The cord on it does not belong, as it is a cheap generic replacement. I am not sure if this machine was a 3 wire grounded machine. The bag is not original and if the model plate does not specify a bag type, then the cleaner had a dust cup assembly, which consisted of a brown toned plasic assembly witch held the cup, and a orange bag that had a hoover logo, or an orange bag shake type with the same description. Depending on the series under the logo it said "commercial" or in your case "industrial."

The second hook on the handle does not belong on the machine, and was put there by some vac-shop engineer. As far as machines costing money, they all do. It is something to expect. I am restoring a vacuum (which is different than rubbing the vacuum with a steel wool pad, slapping some armor all on it, and putting it on ebay) that has now cost me $75 dollars. And most other clean up jobs that aren't full blown cost at least $30 on top of whatever you paid for the machine. It is important to remember that this isn't a hobby that is easy to make money on, the important thing to remember is what the machine is worth to you. This is a labor of love. That is why I am so picky about the machines I collect and the machines I restore.

Post# 157742 , Reply# 13   11/1/2011 at 16:56 (4,553 days old) by vac_whisperer ()        

Yeah I got a Sanitaire for $2 three months ago and Im still working on it.... LOTS of things still need replacing on it, not to mention the major cleaning that tok nearly two whole days. Found out why it was so cheap!

 

Either way, its a nice find. Ive never seen an industial like that before.

 

 
Post# 158018 , Reply# 14   11/4/2011 at 16:40 (4,550 days old) by Vacuumfan96 (South East Michigan )        

That is a really NICE find! Hope it is good to your wallet and to you =)

Post# 158031 , Reply# 15   11/4/2011 at 18:03 (4,550 days old) by classicfan1 (Ohio, USA)        
Cutting cords

 Why do people bother cutting cords off of vacuums, toasters, washing machines and every other appliance? Anybody in the right mind KNOWS that ANYBODY with a pair of wire cutters, soldering iron, and $5 can go to the hardware store and buy another cord.

Secondly, cars are in the junkyard for a reason. They cost too much money to fix (at the time they got put in the yard of course), they're wrecked, rusted out, or stripped clean already. Some people do take running vehicles to the junkyards, but unless your one of those nuts who passed cash for clunkers, that won't happen.

The same goes for vacuums, my friend. They're tossed or scrapped for a reason. I parted out and threw away an older Dirt Devil last week. Why? The serious body damage wasn't worth fixing, and the frayed cord, and the paint spilled on it added to that. It was picked up before the trashman came, and I highly doubt it was a vacuum collector but my scrap guy down the street, so I know its ultimate fate. You can't save them all, but at least some guys take the time to part them out, and I do that with all kinds of old stuff. Some of you may cry at the Classic Bikes I parted out and had crushed at the scrap yard.

I commend you for trying to save this old girl, hopefully you have some luck. But don't expect dumpster finds to be prefect. This is why people should remember that a hobby is a hobby and not a money maker.

Post# 158045 , Reply# 16   11/4/2011 at 21:12 (4,549 days old) by sfcoronet (San Francisco - Bay Area)        

I have no plans to quit my day job - like I said, I just wanted to have some fun and get some experience by taking this vacuum apart. When I tested the cord and found it to be bad, I just figured that whoever owned this vacuum didn't want to spend $50 to repair it when for a little more you can get a new vacuum at Target. People throw away perfectly good, fixable stuff all the time. I can't tell you how much stuff I have and treasure that someone else thought was garbage...

Post# 158046 , Reply# 17   11/4/2011 at 21:14 (4,549 days old) by broomvac (N/A)        
Replacing cords

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If the other machine had a ground, but your current one does not, just don't attach the ground if you put a 3 prong cord on your vacuum. The ground is not necessary and your vacuum will run just fine without it.

P.S. Your vacuum has a generic cord, or at least a generic plug...I find those plugs on many vacuums I encounter. As a matter of fact, I have a Kirby Omega with the same plug, just in a chocolate brown.

Post# 158061 , Reply# 18   11/4/2011 at 23:00 (4,549 days old) by twocvbloke ()        
"just don't attach the ground if you put a 3 prong c

 Or just attach it to the upper bearing plate where Ground is usually connected on vacs like these, on my Senior 652a, the suppressor capacitor thingy had a Ground wire hooked up to the bearing plate (I presume it just used the effect of using Neutral as a ground as it's a 2-wire setup), and on my Sanitaire ZC-880, it has the ground connected directly to the plate and a few wires going between the different metal parts that are under the hood, though oddly the hood isn't grounded... :\

Post# 158610 , Reply# 19   11/11/2011 at 00:03 (4,543 days old) by sfcoronet (San Francisco - Bay Area)        

Found a good cord in the same dumpster I found the Hoover in - two wire that works great! I also found a nice green Kirby cord that just needs a new "male" end put on.
"Free lunches" actually do exist - and they taste a lot better than some of the lunches I've had to pay for!

Where can I find a replacement HOOVER decal for the hood (you can see the ghost of the one that use to be there in the photo)?


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