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Why so many Kirby Omega's?
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Post# 154725   10/9/2011 at 20:03 (4,518 days old) by thissucks ()        

why do i find so many Omega's on ebay in flea markets and resale shops?

i bought two of them thinking they where rare untill i find millons all over the place.

anyone have a explanation of why there are so many? lots sold? very high durability? i really like my machine, it has amazing suction, its quiet and its built like a tank.

also how can i tell if i have the OE bags?


Post# 154735 , Reply# 1   10/9/2011 at 20:39 (4,518 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)        

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All that means is a lot of people in your area bought that model, that's about it. In my area, there are TONS of Classic III's. And somewhere across the state there could be tons of Heritage II's. It just depends where you are.

Post# 154741 , Reply# 2   10/9/2011 at 21:03 (4,518 days old) by thissucks ()        

not just here but all over ebay too.

the omega is my favorite, minus the shake out bag.


Post# 154748 , Reply# 3   10/9/2011 at 21:28 (4,518 days old) by goadie12 ()        

Well thats weird because where I live up here in the great north it is almost impossible to find them I have been looking for a while and havent been able to find a single one, I think it has to do with what part of the world you live in depends on how popular some vacuums are thanks. Zach

Post# 154749 , Reply# 4   10/9/2011 at 21:28 (4,518 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Here in the UK, there's tons of LegendIIs, the majority of ebay listings for Kirby machines are LegendIIs.... :\

Just varies from place to place I guess...


Post# 154758 , Reply# 5   10/9/2011 at 21:53 (4,518 days old) by thissucks ()        

huh, interesting.

Post# 154759 , Reply# 6   10/9/2011 at 22:00 (4,518 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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This makes me want to ask: was there once a time that a certain Kirby model had sold better in the U.K. than here in their native U.S.?

~Ben


Post# 154760 , Reply# 7   10/9/2011 at 22:10 (4,518 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

I don't think that the amount sold would have been better than the US, given how we have a tiny population in comparison to the US, if put into percentages, maybe, but I don't know, haven't got access to Kirby's figures myself... :\

But like I say, I see more LegendIIs than I do any other model, so I think that was probably the best selling model given how there are so many for sale today... :S


Post# 154769 , Reply# 8   10/9/2011 at 23:23 (4,517 days old) by Sablekid ()        

Didnt Kirby really pick up a lot of steam during the Omega model?

 

Flooded the market with them.

 

I know in this area, they were very popular.

 


Post# 154784 , Reply# 9   10/10/2011 at 05:07 (4,517 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Kirby Legend II in..

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Hi. The reason why there are allot more Kirby Legend IIs in the UK is that the legend II was out till mid 1992 over here. Where the Generation 3 came out in the USA in 1990. So if there had to be a recall on the new style kirbys it's easier to do it just from the USA.

Also the person in charge of Kirby UK and Ireland who was called Frank Scott had over ordered LIIs so the Warehouse over here was packed full.

One of the reason there aren't that many Generation 3s around in the UK as by time the Generation 3 came out mid 1992 by 1993 the G4 was out.

They also sold allot of Kirby G4s over here.

James:o)


Post# 154801 , Reply# 10   10/10/2011 at 09:36 (4,517 days old) by KirbyLover (Louisville Kentucky )        

Hmm interesting. I too notice TONS of Omega stuff on ebay, not so much locally likely due to age. Classic III and Tradition stuff is pretty scarce considering. Took me months to find a Tradition locally, and I had to drive 2 hrs to get it. Lots of Heritage/II around not really any Legend IIs. I also notice lots of G3s but they are ugly so probably why people don't want to keep them. :P

Post# 154804 , Reply# 11   10/10/2011 at 10:02 (4,517 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Up here in Southwestern Ontario Kirby G's seem to fall out of the sky and land on curbsides or at the Thrift stores.

My theory is that Gramma bought the Kirby and used it for years or found it too awkward in her advancing years, so it was relegated to the back of the closet. Then the kids inherit it after Mom goes to her great reward or gets placed in 'the home'.
The daughter finds the whole contraption much too heavy and overly complicated for accessories and passes it to her husband who uses it inside on the new Great Room renovation, outside in the garage and to vacuum the pebble drive, the bag fills to stuffed, the fan or brushroll jams and out to the garbage it goes or is donated to the Thrift.

Same thing for pre-powerdrive Kirbys. Lovely aluminum sculptures and fun to use once or twice but seriously, I have much more maneuverable uprights to use regularly around my little house.
As a collector I like Kirbys and have 14 different models but it's more for the colours and over-engineering of a robust vacuum designed & built to last for generations. Unfortunately, too often they are passed on to lesser households that have a need for something lighter and less cumbersome.
Kirbys are a throwback to an earlier time when houses were BIG and carpets & floors could be measured by the acre. They are just too much vacuum in a standard home but ideal for monster mansions. I would like to see more of them used in great hotels but again, they are just too heavy for the room staff.
I do find sparkling Kirbys being used in large grand homes that have 'the help' to bulldoze them around the foyer.

Dave


Post# 154806 , Reply# 12   10/10/2011 at 10:07 (4,517 days old) by KirbyLover (Louisville Kentucky )        

Dave,

I have no idea what Kirby has up their sleeves for their 100th anniversary, but I'm hoping they will have more then 1 model. Perhaps something small and light and more maneuverable like a 500/Sanitronic. They could easily crank out 7+ amps and it would be a hell of a machine!


Post# 154807 , Reply# 13   10/10/2011 at 10:08 (4,517 days old) by KirbyLover (Louisville Kentucky )        

Dave,

I have no idea what Kirby has up their sleeves for their 100th anniversary, but I'm hoping they will have more then 1 model. Perhaps something small and light and more maneuverable like a 500/Sanitronic. They could easily crank out 7+ amps and it would be a hell of a machine!


Post# 154863 , Reply# 14   10/10/2011 at 14:15 (4,517 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Legend 2's in the UK...

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The reason for the increased amount of Legend 2's in the UK is because the G3 was delayed here - we didn't get it until 1992/93 near the very end of the run, which is why they're harder to find. Legend 2's and G4's are EVERYWHERE

Post# 154865 , Reply# 15   10/10/2011 at 15:11 (4,517 days old) by BrianKirbyClass (Eudora Kansas)        

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The guy that owned the Kirby Sales and Service office/Dealership in my area has been in business since 1952. He is retired now, and passed the dealership onto his son, but i heard the old man say once that the Kirby Classic 1CR, and Classic Omega (and the red Classic 3) were by far the most sold models of all, from his dealership, in this area anyway.
I asked him why, and he said it was because at the time, the shag and wall to wall carpet and large homes were popular, and Kirby had came out with the totally redesigned model (the Classic 1CR), doing away with the 500 series (DS80 being the last) The newly designed Kirby, with its new large bell shaped head,and everything else newly designed practially sold itself. Plus,at the time many businesses in the area also used Kirbys.
Also about this time the Kirby West plant was opened in Texas, so the manufacturing was going like gangbusters, as were the salesmen out in the field.
Back in those days, if the salesmen sold 11 Kirby's, they got the 12th one free, to do with as they wished. They usually would sell it for a HUGE profit, which was a great insentive.
He said that at the time of the Kirby Classic, and especially Classic Omega, and Classic 3,,,he had over 100 salesmen,each selling at least 12 machines a day. Truckloads of new machines and attachments had to be ordered DAILY in order to keep up.
The walls of his office were covered with sales award plaques, and he had a lineup in his office of the gold Kirby's from Classics to G3s. I know at one time he even had a Kirby van with a HUGE Kirby Classic Omega logo on the side, that the office would use to pick up and deliver repaired machines. I know they did alot of the repairs right out of the van, in the customers driveway,,and i would see his big gold cadillac around town once in awhile. It had a Kirby Classic Omega bumber sticker on the rear bumper.
A lady from the area told me once(late 70s) that she had an older ( prob 500s series, she said from the 50s) Kirby that needed repair, and the van happened to be in her neighborhood. She waved them down, and they took her Kirby, saying it needed repairs that only the shop could do, so they would have to take it in, but would deliver it back to her when it was repaired. She never saw her Kirby again.
She called after several days, but they told her they had never heard of her.
So, maybe his dealersip was a little crooked? Who knows. But that lady said she would NEVER EVER have anything to do with a Kirby after that!


Post# 154868 , Reply# 16   10/10/2011 at 15:48 (4,517 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        
Great Kirby story !

Thanks Brian
For the great story of the Kirby man from your area. Plus the information you
give about the Why so many Classic, Omega's and Classic III's. It is so true
here in Columbus Ohio. As I personally knew the main distributor here in the late
60's / 70's. a Great guy. His wife ran the office and the telaphone appointments and he trained and assisted with the repairs.
There was some tilt in his presentation on the phone or with the salesmen in the home. It went to a T V investagation and the the attorney general shut him down.
So Kirby dropped him. He tore the walls down of the office space/ training area.
Opened a full line Vacuum Sales and Service. To which he trained me to service cleaners and deal with the up sale of customer when I opened my shop about 10 years later.
My point is, Yes, what your saying about Shag carpet and again. Carpet sales were going thru the roof. As people were carpeting there basement rec rooms. bathrooms, kitchens, up the walls !! It was a craze, that Hoover and Eureka with
no real height settings could NOT compete with. Kirby was King, Plus all those happy Kirby customers from the 500 series. All were long over due for a good replacement ! So on top of that Credit was wide open. the Classic that my X and I bought in Aug. of 70, we paid 12.75 a month payment. Plus it's a regional thing according to how strong and how many dealers you have in the county, area or the whole state !!
Norm Brown


Post# 154898 , Reply# 17   10/10/2011 at 17:31 (4,517 days old) by vac_whisperer ()        

"I have no idea what Kirby has up their sleeves for their 100th anniversary, but I'm hoping they will have more then 1 model. Perhaps something small and light and more maneuverable like a 500/Sanitronic."

 

See thats exactly what Im not hoping for... Kirby having two models out at the same time.

 

Now onto the topic:

 

I see a lot of Ωs too. Maybe its cause they were one of Kirbys best selling models..?

 

I also see a lot of Heretages/Heretage IIs around here.


Post# 154957 , Reply# 18   10/11/2011 at 02:11 (4,516 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Any of the Omeegas I have or seen are kinda beat up-like they came from the barn.Haven't seen anymore.the ones I have were DONATED to me by the vac shops here-the machines run-but they have no attachments,and in poor shape.the supply of them is dried up here.Mostly G series machines now.

Post# 154961 , Reply# 19   10/11/2011 at 03:42 (4,516 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I think Kiry SA has done well with the sentria, But I agree with dave , most houses here are 50/50 carpet & woodflooring so a kirby doesn't make sense any more. especially wih its antiquated design and no on board attachments. people are sold on the idea by the salesman but in reality they find it to difficult to use. That is why you can go into any cashconverters here and find at least 5 sentrias, not to mention gumtree, all you see are sentrias. you never saw that many g4 g5 g6  models while they were on the market. I remember rading in a ultimate G while they were still been made and our local cash converters offered me a fortune for it just to have the latest Kirby on there floorfor sale, Now you will be lucky if they offer you $50.00 for a sentria  there are just so many to choose from. I bought 2 at a flee market for $20.00 each with everything , we will use them for parts though. the newest kirby in my collection is a G5. 

 

Loads of legends available to 


Post# 154967 , Reply# 20   10/11/2011 at 05:25 (4,516 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

For most vacuum cleaner customers(not necessarily us vac collectors)I see Kirby Sentrias and Ultimate G's in the trade in section at the Greenville vacuum and sewing.Mostly trade ins towards Meile canisters. and these trade in Kirbys come from older woman customers that find them hard to use.I have and use several Meile canisters in my collection-they perform BETTER than the Kirby with the hose-and no fan to worry about--remember in the hose mode the Kirby motor and fan are turning faster-and what goes down the hose goes right into the fan.I use my Kirbys and canisters together-the hoses for my Kirbys get little use.But I like the Kirby in the upright mode over any canister for vacuuming my carpets-my home has mostly WW carpet-just what a Kirby likes-yes in mixed flooring homes-Kirby salesmen have a harder time.They also have to offer both the shampooer and the hard floor kit to try to close the sale in those situations.If the home has ALL hard floors-have seen this here-usually Laminate and ceramic tile-the Kirby is about useless.and yes--use the NSS Pigs and TriStar "Piglet" vacs on occasions.If hard objects do get to the NSS fan-no worry its blades are quarter in thick!coins-nails,conduit box slugs,no problem!

Post# 155081 , Reply# 21   10/11/2011 at 22:18 (4,516 days old) by thissucks ()        

even though kirbys have incredible suction on the floor, when you use the hose its alot less impressive- flow vs suction.

one gripe is in hose mode it gets LOOOOOOUUUD (fan and bearings perfect just loud)

i still think even for a 50/50 home its worth it, lift the belt and run across the floor it works great as a sweeper.

only downside is they are heavy, but not much worse than most bagless vacs. kirby would BOOM if they made a lighter vac and toss the self propel for a royal type brush roll passive propultion system.

i REALLY want a G3 but want to get a deal on one.

also i would like to note kirby has THE best highth adjustment around, i love the "click clack click clack" sound it makes.




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