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Post# 151800   9/18/2011 at 07:46 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        

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My first vintage vacuum.

Constellation model 867A Ser No 317930


Post# 151801 , Reply# 1   9/18/2011 at 07:48 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Bottom showing the usual signs of hard work.

Post# 151803 , Reply# 2   9/18/2011 at 07:48 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Plate

Post# 151804 , Reply# 3   9/18/2011 at 07:49 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Vacuum chamber.

Post# 151806 , Reply# 4   9/18/2011 at 07:51 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Tools and non Hoover hose.

Post# 151808 , Reply# 5   9/18/2011 at 07:53 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Drilled out rivets and stripped down casing components ready to take to the powder coaters.

Post# 151809 , Reply# 6   9/18/2011 at 07:54 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Motor strip down

Post# 151810 , Reply# 7   9/18/2011 at 07:55 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Motor strip down 2

Post# 151811 , Reply# 8   9/18/2011 at 07:55 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Motor strip down 3

Post# 151813 , Reply# 9   9/18/2011 at 07:56 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Motor only required a clean and greasing.

Post# 151814 , Reply# 10   9/18/2011 at 07:58 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Rebuilt and some new brushes fitted.

Post# 151815 , Reply# 11   9/18/2011 at 08:00 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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The casing parts are back, Iím sorry I have lost the photos of the rebuild, some ware in cyberspace.

Post# 151816 , Reply# 12   9/18/2011 at 08:01 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Front

Post# 151817 , Reply# 13   9/18/2011 at 08:02 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Back

Post# 151818 , Reply# 14   9/18/2011 at 08:03 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Vacuum chamber.

Post# 151819 , Reply# 15   9/18/2011 at 08:03 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Opps wrong colour.

Post# 151820 , Reply# 16   9/18/2011 at 08:04 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Flotation ring.

Post# 151822 , Reply# 17   9/18/2011 at 08:05 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Floor tool acquired from eBay

Post# 151823 , Reply# 18   9/18/2011 at 08:06 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Floor tool cleaned

Post# 151824 , Reply# 19   9/18/2011 at 08:07 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Hose and tools also from eBay.

Post# 151825 , Reply# 20   9/18/2011 at 08:09 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Time for some house work.

Post# 151826 , Reply# 21   9/18/2011 at 08:10 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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867A alongside the Maytag Satellite.

Post# 151831 , Reply# 22   9/18/2011 at 08:34 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Then this came along, the constellation model 822
This is the one that got me into hot water.


Post# 151832 , Reply# 23   9/18/2011 at 08:35 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Just a bit more battle scared then the first one.

Post# 151833 , Reply# 24   9/18/2011 at 08:36 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Some tools and a hose

Post# 151835 , Reply# 25   9/18/2011 at 08:37 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Floor tools

Post# 151836 , Reply# 26   9/18/2011 at 08:38 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Flipped over on the hinge.

Post# 151837 , Reply# 27   9/18/2011 at 08:39 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Under side of flotation ring.

Post# 151838 , Reply# 28   9/18/2011 at 08:40 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Plate

Post# 151839 , Reply# 29   9/18/2011 at 08:41 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Vacuum chamber.

Post# 151841 , Reply# 30   9/18/2011 at 08:43 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Drilled out the rivets and stripped down casing, more parts to the earlier machine.

Post# 151842 , Reply# 31   9/18/2011 at 08:44 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Ready for the powder coaters.

Post# 151843 , Reply# 32   9/18/2011 at 08:45 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Motor

Post# 151845 , Reply# 33   9/18/2011 at 08:47 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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I have not had to do anything to this other than a dusting with a soft brush.

Post# 151846 , Reply# 34   9/18/2011 at 08:48 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Casing is back from the powder coaters.

Post# 151847 , Reply# 35   9/18/2011 at 08:49 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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White top canister

Post# 151848 , Reply# 36   9/18/2011 at 08:49 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Blue bottom canister

Post# 151849 , Reply# 37   9/18/2011 at 08:50 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Base components re-riveted.

Post# 151850 , Reply# 38   9/18/2011 at 08:51 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Under side

Post# 151851 , Reply# 39   9/18/2011 at 08:52 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Motor mount fixed

Post# 151852 , Reply# 40   9/18/2011 at 08:53 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Base and canister fixed on hinge.

Post# 151853 , Reply# 41   9/18/2011 at 08:54 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Clasp re-fitted, opps forgot to fit the rating plate to the bottom.

Post# 151854 , Reply# 42   9/18/2011 at 08:55 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Vacuum chamber, bag holder and wire mesh re-riveted.

Post# 151855 , Reply# 43   9/18/2011 at 08:55 (4,539 days old) by massagemiracle ()        

Fantastic Work!!! Great Job! I hope that I can do half the job that you have done!


Post# 151856 , Reply# 44   9/18/2011 at 08:56 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Motor in its mount.

Post# 151857 , Reply# 45   9/18/2011 at 08:57 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Foot switch

Post# 151858 , Reply# 46   9/18/2011 at 08:59 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Used bolts to secure the switch, original riveted. But I think re-riveting could break the switch.

Post# 151859 , Reply# 47   9/18/2011 at 09:00 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Base and vacuum chamber

Post# 151860 , Reply# 48   9/18/2011 at 09:01 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Canister top rebuilt.

Post# 151861 , Reply# 49   9/18/2011 at 09:02 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Replacement cable as the original had perished.

Post# 151862 , Reply# 50   9/18/2011 at 09:03 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Just about finished.

Post# 151863 , Reply# 51   9/18/2011 at 09:04 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Thanks massagemiracle

Post# 151864 , Reply# 52   9/18/2011 at 09:05 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Finished

Post# 151865 , Reply# 53   9/18/2011 at 09:06 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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More house work.

Post# 151866 , Reply# 54   9/18/2011 at 09:07 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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The 822 along side the 867A and the Satellite.

Post# 151868 , Reply# 55   9/18/2011 at 09:12 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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And now, I am in trouble.

Post# 151874 , Reply# 56   9/18/2011 at 09:39 (4,539 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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God, I love the color combo of the first unit. So pretty. Have heard they have huge air flow? Wish I had your patience and talent! Really nice work, saved some beauties.

Post# 151875 , Reply# 57   9/18/2011 at 10:03 (4,539 days old) by goadie12 ()        

Omg those machines are absolutely beautiful some of the best work I have seen can't wait to see the other two vacs done thanks. Zach

Post# 151886 , Reply# 58   9/18/2011 at 11:26 (4,539 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Very nice job

Post# 151887 , Reply# 59   9/18/2011 at 11:27 (4,539 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I can remember working on these things all the time for the one company I did work for, love your work relly great.


Post# 151888 , Reply# 60   9/18/2011 at 11:42 (4,539 days old) by electrolux~137 ()        

 

 

 

WOW, what beautiful work!! Excellent job on both machines!!


Post# 151891 , Reply# 61   9/18/2011 at 12:09 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Thanks chaps.

Getting in to strife with misses has to be done from time to time, after all it my leisure pursuit and de-stressing medicine, appliance restoration that is, it could have easily been vintage cars and that would cost a lot of money.


Post# 151892 , Reply# 62   9/18/2011 at 12:17 (4,539 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I tell my wife at least I'm at home and get the kids involved and not out playing golf or at the pub with chatting up other women, actually my wife is very understanding.she gets the house vacuumed every day for having to put up with all my vacuums


Post# 151904 , Reply# 63   9/18/2011 at 12:49 (4,539 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Thanks for that, I will remember next time we fall out over anything I can now say, at least you never have to use a vacuum as I do it all with my vintage cleaners and we have the cleanest carpets in town..

Well done that man.


Post# 151953 , Reply# 64   9/18/2011 at 16:51 (4,539 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi Lee. Great job! Just a question. So you sent the body parts to a company. The powder coaters. Is that the name of the company or a type of company??
Was you tempted to re spray the vacs yourself??

Thanks James:o)


Post# 151966 , Reply# 65   9/18/2011 at 17:52 (4,539 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
wow...

those connie restoration are beautiful!! good job.

I was wondering if you knew where i could get the matching hose and acessories for this connie from?


Post# 151999 , Reply# 66   9/18/2011 at 20:27 (4,539 days old) by vacumaniac ()        

Hotpoint those are beautiful!!!! Once bitten by this bug it only gets more exciting. My wife has grown to accept this, and on occasion will surprise me with a vac or two!!! I look forward to seeing those other two when they are done

Post# 152025 , Reply# 67   9/18/2011 at 23:24 (4,539 days old) by goadie12 ()        

Wow I must say beerad that filter queen in the background is absolutely beautiful I have never seen one that is all crone in that style and year where in the world did u find it? Zach

Post# 152032 , Reply# 68   9/19/2011 at 01:56 (4,539 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
Hi Zach

I bought it a few years ago from a vac shop. It is a Canadian model 200a made in Toronto in 1939.
It was one of the very first filter queens.

That particular all chrome one in the pic is a special model.. it was only available as a prize to the top sales person of that year.

It was not available for sale to the public.

It runs like a top too.


Post# 152033 , Reply# 69   9/19/2011 at 01:58 (4,539 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
zach

here is my email addy bbeerad@gmail.com

wanna chat sometime ?
Brad.


Post# 152035 , Reply# 70   9/19/2011 at 03:22 (4,539 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Looks like you used Arctic cable for that Blue & White model, should be good down to -25˚C, assuming you were using the connie for snow blowing in northern Canada... :P

Still, I like blue Arctic cable, I have it on a few things including my portable TwinTub (the short-arse cable it came with broke, so, I put a long Arctic on it!!), aswell as having a couple of extension cables made up with the stuff... :)

That reminds me, must get some more of the stuff...


Post# 152051 , Reply# 71   9/19/2011 at 10:15 (4,538 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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@ kirbymodel2c
James, yes I send the casings to a company not to far from home which chemically strip the old coatings and then sand blast the metal ready for a coating of powder paint which is then backed on in a kiln, result is a very durable finish.
www.leominsterpowdercoat.co.uk/...

I do not have the ability to paint them myself, the finish would be absolutely awful if it tried and would end up paying anyway.

@ beerad
I have found all my hoses and tools from eBay, you just have top keep checking every day, and something will come up at some point.


@ vacumaniac
Yes she will accept it as I have over the 60+ shoes and matching bags.

@ twocvbloke
Well spotted, yes its arctic cable, the only blue cable I could find itís a bit heavy and stops the unit moving as freely as a lighter cable would, I could do with some red, green, and yellow now.

lee


Post# 152053 , Reply# 72   9/19/2011 at 10:43 (4,538 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Yeah, you can only get Arctic down to 1.5mm thick (which is what, 15Amps at 240v?), but it's meant to be rough & ready cable for jobsites and outdoor use, so it has to be thick... :\

I find though that with Hoovers, if they have a predominantly white colour, then you can get away with using a white cable, just as I did with one of my Juniors (surprisingly, the cable was a genuine Hoover spare too!! With a modern moulded plug though, I hate moulded plugs), I think all you'd need for these constellations is 0.75mm cable, which is rated for 6Amps (or 1440w) at 240v, and you could make your own up to any length you liked... :)

As for other colours, good luck with that, I've looked about for coloured cables online, and generally, they tend to either not make them, or make them for a high cost than a simple generic white, I think there are methods for dying PVC coated cables, but I haven't a clue how that works... :S


Post# 152066 , Reply# 73   9/19/2011 at 13:36 (4,538 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi Lee,

Was it easy to drill the rivets out, also where did you get your rivet gun/rivets from?
And why I come to think of it what kindda price range are we looking at to have work like you have had done roughly?? Is it £100s of pounds? Sorry if its a nosey question

I never thought of of getting a company to respray metal work for me.

James:o)



Post# 152067 , Reply# 74   9/19/2011 at 13:44 (4,538 days old) by pinkge (Indianapolis,Indiana)        
Lee...

beautiful job on those connie's.Trully,you are the artist when it comes to restoration of the Hoover Connie's.Thumb's up. Michael

Post# 152263 , Reply# 75   9/20/2011 at 11:40 (4,537 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Hello James
Drilling out the rivets is easy enough, cordless drill and 2mm 3mm and 4mm metal drill bitís, it can be awkward drilling out the bag holder and the clasp.

Riveter and the rivets are from Halfords or B&Q stock them as well.

The cost of the powder coating including stripping and sand blasting was £75 cash the rose one which is with them now might cost more due to the very poor condition and the sand blasting will take longer.

Lee


Post# 152294 , Reply# 76   9/20/2011 at 14:50 (4,537 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Dear GOD, Lee!!!!!!!!!

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They ARE factory fresh!.  You are an artist, and that is a gift.  My mouth is agape over here in The United States! Impressed is an understatement.  But,  why is everything so rusty? Where did you get them?

  Kudos to you,

John.Surprised

 


Post# 152309 , Reply# 77   9/20/2011 at 17:25 (4,537 days old) by rickenbacker ()        

Those, Sir, are superb! very well done :)

Post# 152408 , Reply# 78   9/21/2011 at 11:42 (4,536 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Thanks for all the replies.

@ gottahaveahoove
The rose and white/ yellow and white machines I found in a garden shed, and have been in there for most of the past 15 years the rose one longer, it was sitting on the bare ground in the mud, the yellow one was on a shelf but it was full of compost which included the remains of a dust bag.

Bottom of the rose one


Post# 152533 , Reply# 79   9/22/2011 at 09:24 (4,535 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

Hiya Lee.

the connies look absolutely superb - after the Hotpoint 1851/03 Liberator de Luxe, I see that you have formed one hell of a relationship with the powder coaters.

As has been said by others, I really cant wait to see your full lineup of restored constellations. Seems like you are well on your way to getting most of them.

Off the top of my head, in the UK we had:

the 822 (restoration job done)

then 867 and 867A's in:
pink (restoration in progress)
grey
jonquil green with traditional Hoover logo (restoration job done)
jonquil green with Hoover logo in transfer form
swedish green
aquamarine
blue
& finally
yellow (restoration in progress)

Were there any other variations?

Roll on the fully restored line-up!

Paul


Post# 152619 , Reply# 80   9/23/2011 at 07:52 (4,534 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Were there any other variations?

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There were a couple more (in the UK)

822A identicial to the 822 except it floats
868 orange/beige - US import early 1970s

There are two varieties of the yellow version - one with toggle switch & one with rocker switch. As far as no connie was sold with plastic hose hande and tubes in the UK - but dont know about Europe.

There are other varieties in Australia and NZ. I am told that connies were assenmbled under liscence by Fisher & Paykal from parts sourced from USA rather than from UK. For some reason in Aus they retained the step-on switch rather than the toggle switch for sometime into the production of the 862/867

On the attached vid (love these by the way) the "mop head" attachment looks interesting too.



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Post# 152620 , Reply# 81   9/23/2011 at 07:57 (4,534 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
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You will see in another thread Markus79 has posted a couple of his 822s as well, but they retained the non floating base for many years as can be seen in the attached video, with a Smoke Pine/Swedish Green Connie

Al


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Post# 152624 , Reply# 82   9/23/2011 at 09:49 (4,534 days old) by MikeKLondon ()        
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WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW Nice Job

Post# 152638 , Reply# 83   9/23/2011 at 13:31 (4,534 days old) by SuctionSelector (Leeds, England)        
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If youwant rid any of the Connies please let me know!

Post# 152644 , Reply# 84   9/23/2011 at 14:08 (4,534 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Amazing work! Those machines look outstanding!

Post# 152827 , Reply# 85   9/24/2011 at 08:05 (4,533 days old) by constellation86 (Roy, UT)        

Wow those look awesome. You should start a mail order service.
Nicholas


Post# 152847 , Reply# 86   9/24/2011 at 11:05 (4,533 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys, UK)        
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Thanks folks

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