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Post# 150324   9/4/2011 at 12:12 (4,556 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC)        

I post rarely...but this week I found a long sought-after central vacuum system, new, complete and just waiting for me. May I introduce the 1968 General Electric Central Cleaning System!

Post# 150325 , Reply# 1   9/4/2011 at 12:13 (4,556 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC)        
GE Central Cleaning System

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Post# 150326 , Reply# 2   9/4/2011 at 12:14 (4,556 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC)        
GE Central Cleaning System

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Post# 150327 , Reply# 3   9/4/2011 at 12:16 (4,556 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC)        
GE CCS continued

#4 I've never use the tank itself, it's too fab, but I really like GE tools, expecially the twin clean rug tool. Anyone else have any info on GE CCS's?

Post# 150328 , Reply# 4   9/4/2011 at 12:16 (4,556 days old) by Crevicetool (GA )        
You have GOT to be kidding????

How could something like that not have been used/installed after all these years?

Fantastic!!!! Good for you!


Rick


Post# 150341 , Reply# 5   9/4/2011 at 14:03 (4,556 days old) by compactelectra (Palm Springs)        
Greg

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You know I am a central vac fan, but have never seen one of those.  Fabulous!  Congratulations!


Post# 150342 , Reply# 6   9/4/2011 at 14:31 (4,556 days old) by massagemiracle ()        

Congrats for such a great find!


Post# 150344 , Reply# 7   9/4/2011 at 14:46 (4,556 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
General Electric made a central cleaner??

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Being a GE nut myself, I want one too!! Now, where to put one in this little closet of a house?


Post# 150353 , Reply# 8   9/4/2011 at 15:45 (4,556 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        
never used

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I just think its amazing that something this big can be lying around for all these years and forgotten about. I wonder if it was one of those "yes dear I promise I will install the central vacuum as soon as the game is finsihed"

Post# 150360 , Reply# 9   9/4/2011 at 16:18 (4,556 days old) by eluxomarty (Palm Springs)        
congrats!!

Hey Greg! What does the machine end of the hose look like? Is it the traditional GE button lock like for the canisters? I wonder if there was a power nozzle option, maybe used the Filter Queen PN made for the GE/Premier swivel tops?

Happy GE-ing!

Marty


Post# 150369 , Reply# 10   9/4/2011 at 17:07 (4,556 days old) by kenkart ()        
Good Grief!

Now I have something else to lust over LOL! I love any GE, Wait till Toby sees this, he will FLIP!

Post# 150370 , Reply# 11   9/4/2011 at 17:45 (4,555 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

You're right Hanzie! I had NO IDEA that G.E. ever made such a thing! I'd love to have one of those myself. Later, Toby G.

Post# 150375 , Reply# 12   9/4/2011 at 19:06 (4,555 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC)        
Marty!

Here's a picture of the hose end. Good old GE button lock

Post# 150376 , Reply# 13   9/4/2011 at 19:09 (4,555 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC)        
How about under the hood!

Here's the clean never fired up Lamb 115534 motor and wiring. Note how the majority of the wiring is encased in plastic tubing. Good old GE in it's glory days. It makes one wonder how many of these were made!

Post# 150380 , Reply# 14   9/4/2011 at 19:15 (4,555 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC)        
and the last one...

Here's the label. GE's air conditioning division. Who would have ever thought. Of note also, is the 115534 motor was good to roughly 5,000 square feet with the piping done right. VacuMaid used the same motor and said 8,000 sq. feet. Nutone 3,500 sq. feet.
I also stand corrected to my self. Nutone used the phrase central cleaning system. The GE clearly says central vacuum system.


Post# 150381 , Reply# 15   9/4/2011 at 19:38 (4,555 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
and, dear GOD,

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made in America!  Best of luck with that machine.  It's wonderful to find  something for which you've been hunting.


Post# 150383 , Reply# 16   9/4/2011 at 19:43 (4,555 days old) by vacman1961 (North Babylon, New York)        
GE Central Vacuum

I have seen quite a few of these. There is a large developement here in Dix Hills, New York, that was built by a developer called Levitt, yes, he is the builder of Levittown, NY. This developement is an upscale developement that was built by Levitt, and Levitt used everything from General Electric, all the appliances, the heat and air conditioning, the intercom system, the door bell and yes, the central vacuum system. The unit actually was built by Beam, it is the same unit as a Beam only with the General Electric name, actually, the newer developement which was built in 1972 had a sort of generic unit, it looked the same as this one, only it was white and had a 12" round red GE logo in the center, that unit was definitely a Beam with a GE logo on it, but this one was in the earlier development which was built in 1967 to 1970. There was no power nozzle on them, they were straight suction, some of the houses had a air driven power brush with an adapter on it, the power brush was called a Preco Power Brush.

Post# 150395 , Reply# 17   9/4/2011 at 20:19 (4,555 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        
WOW!!

First let me say, WHAT A FIND! I have never seen an early beam system, but I do have a question, what is its method of dirt collection? is it like a vacu-flo and cyclonic with the dust venting outside? or is it more like the filtered system in current beam systems? It would be great if you could post some pics of the dust bin and what is above the dust bin in the unit itself.
Thanks!
Scott


Post# 150399 , Reply# 18   9/4/2011 at 21:00 (4,555 days old) by goadie12 ()        

Wow what a great find what r your plans with it r u planning to on installing the vacuum or are you going to keep it just as is? Zach

Post# 150420 , Reply# 19   9/5/2011 at 00:02 (4,555 days old) by Real1 ()        

I have seen quite a few of these. There is a large developement here in Dix Hills, New York, that was built by a developer called Levitt, yes, he is the builder of Levittown, NY. This developement is an upscale developement that was built by Levitt, and Levitt used everything from General Electric, all the appliances, the heat and air conditioning, the intercom system, the door bell and yes, the central vacuum system. The unit actually was built by Beam, it is the same unit as a Beam only with the General Electric name, actually, the newer developement which was built in 1972 had a sort of generic unit, it looked the same as this one, only it was white and had a 12" round red GE logo in the center, that unit was definitely a Beam with a GE logo on it, but this one was in the earlier development which was built in 1967 to 1970. There was no power nozzle on them, they were straight suction, some of the houses had a air driven power brush with an adapter on it, the power brush was called a Preco Power Brush.

 

I know nothing of central vac systems other then I'm a Master Plumber and the piping scheme kind of interests me. They just borrow the same principles we have in waste & venting, except the instals look pretty rough and unprofessional to me.  About using a PN with these....wouldn't that require a live wire to every wall port and therefore the hose to have an internal wire as well?  

 

Kevin


Post# 150433 , Reply# 20   9/5/2011 at 04:58 (4,555 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Some of the Levitt homes built in the Upper Marlboro area in Md near Wash Dc had these.My Mom's home had a BD unit instead-and it had the Precor power nozzle.Liked using the system.the dirt was caught in a large "Shop Vac" style paper bag.That unit pictured indeed has a quality full bypass radial discharge motor.you could run that contuously without worry-and even with a blocked airpath.the motor has its own fan-near the bottom just above the fancase in the picture.some Wet-Dry vacs have a similar motor.Excellent Quality-I would want one of these too,just to use as a GIANT canister vac!

Post# 150445 , Reply# 21   9/5/2011 at 07:48 (4,555 days old) by vinvac (Dubuque IA)        

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What type of dirt capture system does it use...bags...???

Morgan


Post# 150473 , Reply# 22   9/5/2011 at 13:14 (4,555 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        

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Nice!!! I never knew GE made/sold central vacs. I love the attachment set.


Post# 150484 , Reply# 23   9/5/2011 at 15:18 (4,555 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC)        
GE Central System

Wow! Thanks for all the info and the questions. Here are some answers and a picture of the filtering system.
As with all Beams, this is called "filtered cyclonic" or "inverted bag filtration." Once the motor starts, the filter bag rises up into a cone and filters the incoming air/dirt. When the motor stops, the bag, which is weighted, falls back down into the lower canister shedding the majority of it's dirt. No bag, empty like a shop vacuum. This type of filtration is used by many still today. Today, though, instead of a flannelette type material, Beam used a Gortex material that works even better.
I'm never going to use the power unit. It will reside in glory next to my Pullman Holt system of the same vintage. The Pullman has the same motor but is bigger and more industrial looking. I too, got it complete, never used with full attachments on Ebay 3 years ago. I have another 15 or so units from Filtex to VacuMaid to Electrolux, Central Vac International and a couple of private label VacuMaids.
To answer the question about plumbing a system, yes the principle is similar to plumbing. But the pipe and fittings are made especially for vacuum systems. uber smooth interiors and lots of fittings of 30-45-90 degrees so that airflow is not impeeded as it makes turns. The lastest change is that previously you just made sure everything was horizontal in a run. But often dirt being pulled through the system when it came to a vertical run would run down often into an inlet. Now systems are plumbed with each vertical run doing a 90 degree turn before going vertical. I've installed roughly 100 systems in 15 years. I've been to the VDTA convention in Las Vegas several times and going through the central system install seminar three times.
The one thing that puts this GE above a Beam of the same age is the attention to detail. The GE has the covered wiring, the top lid has a gasket around the opening for the motor stop and even the top piece of the motor is painted to match the body. Beams of this age had a little lid on top of the motor. But this was also the golden age of GE and attention was paid to quality.
Good to know that the Preco power brush was used with these. I love them and have about 6 of them under various labels from Preco to Westinghouse to Singer and unlabelled. They work well. Preco nozzles originally had a metal neck and later changed to plastic which then became it's weak spot as it would split. But they are workhorses!
O.K. Here's the Picture of the filterbag.
Greg


Post# 150525 , Reply# 24   9/5/2011 at 22:26 (4,554 days old) by goadie12 ()        

Hey if it wouldn't be too much trouble I think we all would like to see your other central vacs thanks. Zach

Post# 150528 , Reply# 25   9/5/2011 at 23:37 (4,554 days old) by Real1 ()        
Hmmmm.....

30 degree fittings or 22.5 degree? The last system I saw looked like they used PVC waste & vent fittings. I wasn't aware that the plastics companies took interest in making pipe and fittings for central vac systems. Surprised

 

Kevin


Post# 150601 , Reply# 26   9/6/2011 at 15:05 (4,554 days old) by centralvacs1928 (Chicagoland)        

Wow, what a find!! This really (really really) looks like an early Beam...the differences you pointed out are noticeable, though. Do you think GE had Beam make the special changes to meet their requirements, or do you think GE just did a very close copy of the design? I would suspect the former personally. How strange would it be for GE to want to build the unit themselves, yet retain the same filtration design, same steel rolling and punching equipment (vent holes are a giveaway), same motor/lid securing means, etc...?

As a side note, I traded in a B & D power unit once and loved the way the motor was constructed, but didn't have room to save the unit. Sometimes I wish I had. Do you happen to have pictures of the motor in yours? I think mine was a 620...squarish, short but heavy machine with a "toilet lid" on top. Quite loud as I recall. Is that the one you've got too?


Post# 150682 , Reply# 27   9/7/2011 at 00:02 (4,553 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        
Black & Decker

This was the central vac that was installed in my grandparents' home.  When my mom bought the house, we upgraded to a new Beam unit; had all of the valves upgraded to accept a modern hose.  I gave the old B&D unit to Reggie in Colorado... not sure what ever happened to it.  Yes, it was HEAVY and LOUD!

 

That GE is beyond fabulous.  Love the tools and the GE logos on everything.  Did the GE inlet valves also say GE on them?  Are there pictures of the valves in the manual?  I don't blame you for not wanting to use it; but I bet it's super tempting...

 

Fred


Post# 150738 , Reply# 28   9/7/2011 at 11:40 (4,553 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC)        
Black & Decker

I would love to find a Black & decker. I have literature on them, but nothing more. Thanks for a real picture! I would also like to and am killing myself that I didn't go after a Kenmore canister recently. The Kenmore uses an interesting filtering system that's rather unique.
I'll get out all the systems this weekend and take a group shot!


Post# 150740 , Reply# 29   9/7/2011 at 11:46 (4,553 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        

Yay for group shots!  Can't wait!


Post# 150758 , Reply# 30   9/7/2011 at 14:31 (4,553 days old) by centralvacs1928 (Chicagoland)        

Hey Fred, great photo! That's the one! Pretty sure Reggie still has it.

Post# 150821 , Reply# 31   9/7/2011 at 21:07 (4,552 days old) by vac_whisperer ()        

Thatis the DEFINITION of cool!

Post# 151157 , Reply# 32   9/10/2011 at 16:37 (4,550 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC)        
GROUP SHOTS!

I have taken pictures of the collection and have posted them in middle forum as it's a mix of both newer and older machines. There are also some shots of my vacuum storeroom!
Enjoy! Greg


Post# 333119 , Reply# 33   9/3/2015 at 01:14 (3,096 days old) by Centralvacfreak ()        

WOW! I sure would love to have this vacuum. I can understand you totally on wanting to not ever use it. I have several vintage items I have won on Ebay that were never used from 35 yr old window A/C units to Sump Pumps. Little about me. I am Shawn. I have Autism which explains my deep love and passion for electrical appliances. I love to collect them, and repair them also. I just started collecting central vacuums, and I found this site, and now I don't feel so out of place for collecting an odd thing LOL. Yes many collect vacuums, but not central type units. So many videos on You Tube of people collecting vintage uprights to canisters, but no central vacs. The GE unit you have here is definately made by Beam, and is equivelent to the Beam 254 model. I'll include a photo. I had a chance to buy this 254 on Ebay, but auction got best of me. The vacuum was not in besat of shape, so I was steered away from it. I like to collect things that are not beat up, and this unit was dingged, and pretty roughed up. So far I have 5 central units to start with. I just purchased a 1982 Dust Care Model DCC-1 on ebay for a buy it now of $60 plus $30 to ship. It's a pretty looking unit. Cool Sky blue with a Navy blue dirt canister, and top half. Middle part is sky blue, o lighter blue if you want to call it that. I actually contacted the seller and he said motor just stopped in middle of vacuuming. I asked him if there were any burnt smells, and asked him if there was a audible click when you jumpered the 2 low volt wires together, and he said yes there was a click, so I know control circuit relay is working, he said no burnt smells from motor. I think it might need new carbon brushes, or could have bad spot in motor communitator, or armiture is what it's called. I'll perform a bar to bar test on motor armiture when I receive the unti. I am super excited to receive the Dust Care unit, and I think Beam made this unit for Dust Care. Beam is a great company, and made vacuums for lots of companies. Anyone ever heard of Xenex Central Vacuums?? There slogan is Kant Clog referring to the filter in the unit. That unit is made by Beam as well, and is my next unit to find and add to my collection. I'll include a photo of my Dust care as well, as the beam 254. How bout your GE here, ever care to sell someday? I know the answer you'll give LOL. I am same way, won't let go of my stuff. LOL. I am glad you found this unit though. Are you a collector as well??

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Post# 353119 , Reply# 34   6/2/2016 at 00:16 (2,823 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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I have one of those GE central vac units in my collection, sadly though I do not have a hose or any attachments to go with it.


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