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i got a black and decker valet today
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Post# 143938   7/19/2011 at 14:05 (4,602 days old) by andken23 ()        

i bought a Black and Decker valet at a yard sale today with the hose only i need the accessories that comes with it. let me know OK.


Post# 144004 , Reply# 1   7/19/2011 at 22:51 (4,601 days old) by Kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        

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Do you happen to have a pic? I don't remember what that is lol. Is it a dustbuster type?

Post# 144314 , Reply# 2   7/22/2011 at 10:25 (4,599 days old) by andken23 ()        

here are some pictures

Post# 144317 , Reply# 3   7/22/2011 at 11:53 (4,599 days old) by andken23 ()        

pic 2

Post# 144318 , Reply# 4   7/22/2011 at 11:56 (4,599 days old) by andken23 ()        

hose without the wire

Post# 144336 , Reply# 5   7/22/2011 at 14:55 (4,599 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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HI:

Just for reference here is the one out of my collection with all the parts.

Doug


Post# 144353 , Reply# 6   7/22/2011 at 16:42 (4,598 days old) by andken23 ()        

wow thanks Doug for showing me your valet i need the cord for the hoses, floor brush, crevices tool, upholster tool and the round brush and the rug tool and please help me to find some tools for her.
Andrew


Post# 144359 , Reply# 7   7/22/2011 at 17:28 (4,598 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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That Black and Decker canister is identical to the original 1960's Regina canister with the hose port off center.

Since the Canadian Iona factory used to make our Regina Elektrikbrooms, and later became the Fantom factory, I wonder what kind of contract Black and Decker had with Iona to make this canister. Does the name plate say "Made in Welland, Ontario"?


Post# 144360 , Reply# 8   7/22/2011 at 17:36 (4,598 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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Brian, just so you know, there was also a GE canister in baby blue that was EXACTLY IDENTICAL to this one. And I have heard this was produced in several different names....apparently Canadian Tire even had their own brand name canister similar to this one. I believe Trendvac was the name, but don't quote me on that.

Rob


Post# 144415 , Reply# 9   7/23/2011 at 05:33 (4,598 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        

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Ohh yeah now I remember. I dk why I was thinking of Dustbuster or smaller canister. Its in nice shape.


Post# 144514 , Reply# 10   7/23/2011 at 21:49 (4,597 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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If I remember correctly GE bought the rights to the design in Canada from Regina around 1980 - same time as Iona bought the rights to the electric brooms then, when Black & Decker bought out the GE small appliances in Canada (around 1985) it passed to them.

Post# 144517 , Reply# 11   7/23/2011 at 21:59 (4,597 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Also in thinking of this Regina may not have owned the patent rights to that design - Switson Industries in Welland Ontario (Later General Signal Appliances) Made the machines for Regina as well as making them under other names for various stores. Eg - Bradford for Zellers, Baycrest for the Hudsons Bay Co.and Trendvac for Canadian Tire

Here is a picture of a few of them in my collection:
Doug


Post# 144535 , Reply# 12   7/23/2011 at 23:28 (4,597 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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We had Bradford House for W.T.Grants here.

Post# 144540 , Reply# 13   7/24/2011 at 01:55 (4,597 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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Hey Doug, just out of curiosity....how many other makes did Switson Industries manufacture for?? I know Eureka was one of the others, but who else?? Seems like this company must have been perhaps the biggest manufacturer in Canada at one point.

Rob


Post# 144552 , Reply# 14   7/24/2011 at 08:08 (4,597 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hey Rob:

I've never heard of them making Eureka's but I do know they made Kirbys here for a while.

The other brands I've come across are Baycrest, Bradford, Coronado, Eatonia, Fairbanks Morse, Mastercraft, Regina, Switson, Valliant, Viking, and Waverly. There are probably more than that too. These were all variations on the basic models that they put out at the time with colour and name being pretty much the only changes. The model numbers always reflected Switsons Production eg - I have a Switson Tank model in dark green and chrome (model D22), Regina cannister model in Plum and grey (Model D23), Switson cannister model also in dark green and grey (model D24) and a Valliant in Pink and cream (Model D28)

Because I know that the two Switson models were sold by Simpsons in 1959 its not a stretch to say that the Regina was also produced in 1959.

Doug


Post# 144556 , Reply# 15   7/24/2011 at 09:08 (4,597 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Hey there Doug - thanks for that clarification!

Would be interesting to read a full history of vacuum manufacturing at that plant in Welland, Ontario - who opened the first factory, what brands came out of that location and when, and a history of the corporate take-overs and purchase of brand-name rights. Am I remembering correctly that this is the factory that eventually produced Canadian Fantom vacs?

And now the big question: Was that Switson/Regina canister design with the off-center hose port a Canadian design, or an American design? Because we know that those Regina canisters were sold in the USA too, and I imagine that Regina's main corporate headquarters was in the States (Rahway, New Jersey, if I remember correctly), I wonder if Regina USA contracted Switson to produce the Canadian vacs for them. Unlike Hoover in Hamilton and Eureka in Kitchener, I guess Regina decided not to set up their own Canadian factory - and instead contracted Switson to do it for them.

All in all, an interesting chapter in vacuum history in Canada. Just goes to show you, that you never know these days who actually makes a product just by looking at the brand name. In the "olden" days, when you saw a Sunbeam product, you knew which factory and corporation and physical address produced it. Now when you see a product with the name Sunbeam on it, chances are it just a brandname bought by some other multilayered multinational company and who knows who is responsible for what you just bought.


Post# 144568 , Reply# 16   7/24/2011 at 11:20 (4,597 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        
WHAT?!?! Switson Industries made Kirbys??

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OK Doug, spill....what year did this start & end?? Surprising that Kirby wouldn't have set up their own Canadian division, considering how they are so careful about producing a quality product.

Rob


Post# 144618 , Reply# 17   7/24/2011 at 23:15 (4,596 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hey Rob:

Just from the Kirby's that I have in my collection here is the name plate info:

model 510 - Made by Gelling Ltd, Ontario, Canada

model 615 - Made by Switson Ind. - Welland, Ont, Canada

Sanitronic model 662 - Made by Switson Ind. - Welland, Ont, Canada

Dual Sanitronic 50 - Made by Scott & Fetzer, USA

Based on that I would say Switson started making them around 1955 and by 1965 Kirby switched to importing them from the US. It appears that the Switson made machines model numbers started with 6 instead of 5 like in the US.

The one obvious giveaway with the "500/600" series machines is the dusting brush - instead of being the one that came with the US models it is the same brush used with the 1950's regina / valliant / waverly / switson machines.


Post# 144649 , Reply# 18   7/25/2011 at 11:21 (4,596 days old) by a007kirbyman (--->> Originally My Mom <<--- (now Wisconsin))        
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Hello Doug.

I am always impressed with your 'wide collection' of machines (including the 'other' brands ~~lol~~). I am equally impressed with the knowledge you possess that goes along with the machines in your collection.

I'm glad I am pretty much concerned with just the accuracy of my knowledge with Kirby models, (& anything Jim Kirby was associated with in the designing of); & the history that goes along with the same.

I have only one Canadian Kirby in my collection at present. It's a Kirby 509, & it too was made in Welland, Ont, CA.


Again, kudos to you!!!


Cheers & hagd all,

Bill


Ps: Would you kindly post a photo of the manufacturer's plate for the 615 & 662 kirbys? Thank you in advance!



Post# 144867 , Reply# 19   7/26/2011 at 19:53 (4,594 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Trendvac.. I was wondering what these were since there is one sitting at our local Habitat Restore,, looks like a Eureka or GE Swivel top actually...

As an FYI as someone mentioned above.. Bradford and Bradford House..sold at Zellers in Canada and Grants in the USA.. that's because at the time in the 60;s and 70's or so.. Grants owned Zellers in Canada before they sold it to the Bay.



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