Thread Number: 12738
"Cleaning Effectiveness per Amp" What's your take? |
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Post# 136154 , Reply# 2   5/11/2011 at 14:42 (4,733 days old) by HenryDreyfuss (Ohio)   |   | |
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Ah yes I remeber this very clearly from when I was a kid. Hoover used this system during the 'amp wars,' when amps on vacuums were slowly going up. It was decieving, because companies like Bissell had vacuums like the 'Power AMP,' that got the idea in consumer's minds that more amps meant more power (which is not necessarily the case). Hoover's system was just for their vacuums, and even though their vacs still used less electricity, it was a way to slap some high numbers on the base like everyone else. The higher the number the better the vac cleaned the carpeting.
For instance, a Hoover Elite with a 15.5 cleaning effectiveness rating probably only had one row of brushes on its brushroll. A Hoover Elite with a cleaning effectiveness rating of 18.0 had a double row brushroll, and may have had a higher amp motor that spun faster. The top of the line models (the Self-Propelled) had the highest cleaning effectiveness rating of 22.0, and it had the most powerful motor and the best brushroll. Just amps don't tell the whole story. Some of the best cleaning new vacs today are considered energy efficient. The Riccar Supralite/Simplicity Freedom outclean most new 12 amp vacs, but only use 5.5 amps! When I worked at a vac shop I had people ask me constantly "how many amps does this one have?" I'm sure it left a lot of consumers scratching their heads in confusion! |
Post# 136158 , Reply# 3   5/11/2011 at 14:50 (4,733 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 136182 , Reply# 6   5/11/2011 at 18:36 (4,733 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Back when Eureka went from a 3.5 amp motor to a 6 amp motor, it made a very significant difference. Since then I have learned that it is airflow along with the design of the vacuum that makes for better cleaning. I was one of those that had to have the 6amp over the 3.5 amp. I had the 6 amp for 6 or 7 years. Great machine.
Bud Mattingly |
Post# 136193 , Reply# 7   5/11/2011 at 19:32 (4,733 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I think amps/watts are not as critical in uprights as they may be in canisters.
Most of us can attest to the fact that a "fan-first" classic upright with a 6 amp motor can deep clean carpets just as well as uprights with 12 amp motors. Much of the ability to deep clean carpets lies in the design of the brush roll and drive belt, the ability to regulate the height of the cleaning end of the vac, and the design of the air-flow channels and cavity near and around the brush roll. By the way: Would someone verify that I am remembering my high school physics correctly? Wattage = amps x voltage? In other words: 1440 watts = 12amps x 120 volts? and 1440 watts = 6amps x 240 volts (for Europe)? |
Post# 136221 , Reply# 9   5/11/2011 at 20:55 (4,733 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Thanks David!
You know, at some point Eureka sold an Imperial Line of vacs here in North America and the promotional labelling on the units used the wattage not the amperage of the motor. I think there was one classic F&G "Rugulator" upright that was labelled 780 watts or something like that....never quite understood the marketing strategy behind this labelling. Maybe it was a way for the parent company Electrolux to harmonize their production lines and make it easy to sell on both sides of the Atlantic (by just changing motors).... Let me see if I can find an internet pic of one as an example.....oh here's one....hey I've never seen an Imperial version of the Eureka Precision....Model 2390....cool: CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekaprince's LINK on eBay |
Post# 136263 , Reply# 10   5/12/2011 at 01:54 (4,733 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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and for vacuum cleaner motors-both upright and canister-the Amp rating you see is when the motor is on a test stand in a laboratory-NOT in the vacuum.The motor often runs LESS current in the actual vacuum system. |